Defend the Indefensible: Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer...

I like how in the second Ninja Turtles movie as soon as the Turtles burst through the club where Vanilla Ice is performing, Ice tells his dancers "Fellas, I have an idea...". Without him saying anything else they immediately start dancing in perfect choreography to Ice's supposedly improvised "Ninja Rap". I guess they had a ready-made song prepared just in case giant, man-sized mutant turtles burst through the walls of the club.

While I'll love him forever for making Cool As Ice ("Yo, Kat! Words of wisdom! Drop that zero and get with the hero!"), which I showed to every friend I could back in high school, I don't think I'll ever forgive him for saying that he would lick his grandma's asshole for a million dollars. Such a moral quandary should not be introduced.

See, their song goes dee-dee-dee diggy dee-dee. His goes DEE-dee-dee-dee diggy dee-dee. It's totally different!

SPIN's Jonathan Bernstein gave that video the "Please Hammer, Don't Hurt Me!" award.

Has Eminem ever gone that far?

I'd also like to throw that time he appeared on MTV's 12 Angry Viewers and personally took the baseball bat to the master copy of his video into the mix for contention. Also the time a couple years later he took the bat to a bunch of other crappy videos on MTV's Worst Music Videos Ever That We Will Never Ever Show Again dealie.

fucking classic.

-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), April 29th, 2006.

I think someone here feels a little threatened by these two Gods of music.

I don't know where either Vanilla Ice or ICP get off sledging Eminem. At least he's a real fucking rapper! (and I'm hardly an Eminem fan, but god, them's the facts)

-- latebloomer (posercore24...), February 4th, 2004.

Omigod yes!! Go Ninja Go Ninja Go!!! I went to see this movie when it came out in the theater and on the marquee his name was in big letters right under the Turtles. I was so happy.

It's too bad Hammer's Addam's Family song isn't more infamous. I remember listening to it alot when I was a little kid (my name's Adam) and he keeps saying "To the bridge" and I had no idea what he was talking about. I imagined the song was taped live and they were all walking across some steel bridge on stage, knees bent, hands pumping in the air...

Hammer: Proper

him and early Mix-a-Lot are also probably a super underrated infl. on dudes like Timbaland and Pharrel, they were sticking with electro type beats all thru the boom bap era.

http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/490/491733.jpg

rofl.

jesus god this one is worse

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Platinumunderground.jpg

I pity Vanilla Ice.

I saw Chuck D. on a lecture tour in 1991, and someone in the audience asked him about about both these guys and he had nothing but positive things to say about either. Hammer he praised for his business sense, the size of his operation, how many people he was able to employ, which Chuck admired (guess we didn't know then that he was actually going bankrupt). He actually called Vanilla Ice the Elvis of rap or something, said he liked him because he brought more people to hip-hop, which was a good thing. So there you have it.

"ice ice baby" is a great pop song.

well, Hammer brought me to rap, but I don't think he's owed any retroactive props for that, because the group that got me SERIOUSLY into rap was N.W.A. (years later)

"Ice Ice Baby" is good despite the wack flow. Vanilla Ice is probably the must unlucky & pathetic man in the music business.

The only thing I can say to their defence is it is a myth that they were supposed to be so much worse than other rappers. They are all the same.

lol

hahahaha

A rap expert writes there.

Between the two of them, they left behind so many unintentional (and pathetic) comic gems, that you've got to cherish their legacy if only for that. Of course theres Hammer's gangsta turn, but Ice is surely the winner in this regard. Cool as Ice should be sought out and seen in its entirety, as it offers consistent comedic gold, but here's the infamous rampless fence-jumping scene. And, of course, there's his love rap and his first post-To The Extreme comeback attempt, when he wanted to be taken seriously as some sort of dreadlocked, pot-loving Das EFX disciple.

Ice Ice Baby is one of my Dad's favourite songs, and he's 64.

Still like "Ice Ice Baby." Remember the first time I heard it. I was driving around Detroit with Mr. Fine Wine and some DJ just kept playing it over and over and wouldn't play anything else.

ha ha - oh my that seriously made me laugh!

xpost to dog latin

HAMMER takes it. U Can't Touch This >>>>>>>>>> Ice Ice Baby

Flavor Flav & MC Hammer To Join Charlie Sheen At Insane Clown Posse Festival

O_O

Hammer - cos it's Hammer yo Hammer MC Hammer Go Hammer

and the rest can go and play

When Hammer grunts 'YEEEAAH, BOYYYYEEEEE' in 'Let's Get it Started' it sounds like he's pinching one off.

If I'm honest in reappraising his skills, he's really not that much better an MC than Blazin' Hazen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXb6bjCCtuY

that's unfair

you missed the part where he smoothed out his rapping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haxYckO6-ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFCv86Olk8E

the video for "2 Legit 2 Quit" is beyond insane and is LEGIT amazing. yes it features James Brown throwing Hadoukens of energy at Hammer.

It took me forever to notice it for some reason but, once I did, Hammer's tendency to randomly sprinkle his rhymes with rolling 'r' sounds (often when there was no 'r' to roll) started driving me batshit. It's all over this track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwshr5uAlOA

yea the 2 Legit video is pretty awesome - love how it's a not-so-subtle attempt to one-up Michael Jackson

OL i definitely picked up on the rolling r's

btw the Rifftrax crew has tackled "Cool As Ice" and it is hilarious. it really is one of the great bad movies.