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Yeah, it's his wife talking in 'Mutual Slump'.

Orange (Orange), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

cool!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

isn't lavelle the main dud part of unkle, and he's the only constant? really, judging by what i've read and comments, he mostly says "put this film sample here" and "make this more gloomy." decent job coordinating people, though.

has anyone seen him actually dj solo? i've heard he doesn't do it very often, despite all of "his" mixes that are now available. it was always dj shadow, or the scratch perverts, or whoever else he could dig up. a friend saw lavelle by himself once and said it was pretty bad.

mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

trip hop film samples can be amazing, eg 'bladerunner' sample on 'aftermath',

Agreed. One of my favorite ever film samples, mostly because it's a (relatively) subtle one.

but on the unkle project, i thought they were really lavelle imposing himself over shadow's work--especially the 'hearts of darkness' bit.

Really? To me it seems like one of the only clever samples on the entire record, maybe commentary from Shadow on Lavelle and the UNKLE project, both of which he was seriously disenchanted with before it was over... Then again, I'm probably reading too much into it and Lavelle just had him slap it in because it was WICKED AWESOME.

has anyone seen him actually dj solo? i've heard he doesn't do it very often, despite all of "his" mixes that are now available. it was always dj shadow, or the scratch perverts, or whoever else he could dig up. a friend saw lavelle by himself once and said it was pretty bad.

I've never seen him, but I have heard live bootlegs and they are wretched. You know the kind of bedroom DJ who has one "perfect" playlist that s/he never deviates from? That's Lavelle. Dude's released the same goddamn mix like five times already for Global Underground and as "bootlegs" with suspiciously wide distribution and snazzy packaging (Big Brother Is Watching, Do Androids Dream of Electric Beats, some others I've thankfully forgotten).

telephone thing, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

the problem with the 'hearts of darkness' bit is there in the original, it's self-mythologising on the part of coppola. here's a non-secret: most hollywood films are made on the edge of panic and a great film, especially a location shoot, is a happy accident. i think 'apocalypse' suffered some of the problems that 'psyence fiction' suffered, not the way lavelle thinks ('we went insane'), more that they tried to define an era, so casting 'generational icon' dennis hopper was a bit like bringing in mike d. they're there to represent this corner of achievement, but what you actually get is, of course, them repeating themselves (literally -- it's the same vocalline as 'intergalactic').

N_RQ, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 07:40 (eighteen years ago) link

i've seen Lavelle DJ on his own and he was fine.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I still love the deployment of Boba Fett from the SW Xmas Special cartoon as 'Unreal' chimes in.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:44 (eighteen years ago) link

i've never been a big toy person, well NOT SINCE I WAS A LITTLE'UN. and the star wars stuff bugged me too -- that's my beef with lavelle. it'sstill going, too! i went to resfest on saturday and it was still all these fucking toys.

N_RQ, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:50 (eighteen years ago) link

was there anything good at Resfest? i'm sorry i missed it - i'm not sure how many really 'WOW' videos there have been in the last year though.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:54 (eighteen years ago) link

it's hard to see what resfest is about now, really, given that 'digital' film isn't a very exclusive category. i was just there for some mike mills documentaries from ages ago, but the reel i saw promoting it was a bit lacking. i can't remember what was featured, but nothing blew me away. i think they had a traktor retrospective, which was probably ok but a bit like marking time.

N_RQ, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah nothing really grabbed me from the proposed features.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 09:24 (eighteen years ago) link

i like 'thumbsucker' but iirc (i was very, very drunk when i saw it) there's nothing very 'resfest' about it, other than mills' credentials. (it's also kind of out of time, a sort of companion to 'virgin suicides' but i didn't mind that.)

N_RQ, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 09:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Was that doc "Deformer" -- about the skateboarder?

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link

nah, they didn't have it (it's pennies on amazon tho'), they had 'architecture of reassurance' (not actually a doc, on reflection) and a newer one where he asked a bunch of people what they'd do if they had 3 months/a week/24 hours to live, which was funny.

N_RQ, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Hi Steve ;-).

Even the DFA remix is boring.

I say thee, nay.

I've seen Lavelle DJ twice. Decent, but admittedly samey sets. He's also a lot less cooler as a person than Shadow, after meeting them both repeatedly during my student years.

The first 3 tracks on Psyence Fiction are probably the most classic the record gets at any particular points, especially if you rewind the CD to the beginning and have fun with the snippets of popular hits that form the "real" intro.

Best non-album track is 'Garage Piano' from the old Headz 2a compilation. Trip hop Barabarella space trips are hard to beat.

BARMS, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Seriously though, back to Mike D's rap -- what do you think of his "story" of DJ Shadow and James Lavelle? As a narrative, I mean. Kind of thin, isn't it?

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

The DFA mix is sort of good, at least, it's not bad, but also kind of damning. (for the DFA).

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Mark, if you were here I'd probably slap the shit out of you for making me remember that song.

He's also a lot less cooler as a person than Shadow, after meeting them both repeatedly during my student years.

Wouldn't he have to be at least reasonably charismatic to get all these people to collaborate with him and pay attention? Also, am I the only one who occasionally gets a weird Lavelle vibe off of Pharrell whenever he brags about having his own shoes or talks about hanging out with Nigo?

mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Richard-san, what gives with you calling UNKLE DJ Shadow's project in Paste?

b8a, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
HEY KIDS!!

BE THE WACKEST KID ON THE BLOCK!

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a friend with nearly every Mo'Wax release. Most of what's there is actually worth owning, but it's sad because if you lay them out in a line it makes an arrow that points to Lavelle's ongoing wankery.

mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
havent listened to the psyence fiction since like 2 years ago when i did a d4l betcha cant do it like me blend with it but playing it at work now is niiiice esp 'bloodstain'

and what, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link

knowing the newcleus track beatjacked for celestial annihilation ruins it tho

and what, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link

the only thing i remember is the kool g rap song and his verse having a line about the block being hotter than jalapeños.

deej, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

kool g rap joint and the electro joint are the only defensible ones but the rest is pretty good except for the shit that doesnt sound like rap at all

and what, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

what is unkle now?

far as i can tell unkle was:

94-6: skylab
98: shadow
then psychonauts?

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link

i only care about the 1 cd

and what, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I think 94-95 it was mostly Goldsworthy wasn't it. According to discogs it's Richard File (aka DJ Aura) and Lavelle (haha).

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

unkle now is richard file, pretty much. it was also tim sweeney for a while, and major force west.

mh, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link

goldsworthy but also kudo and the other guy from major force (and howie b?) -- basically skylab.

xpost

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link

what about scratch perverts?? the nigo/scratch perverts track was !!@!@

and what, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link

BITCH NIGGA WITH THE AUDACITY TO BLAST AT ME / GOT YOURSELF CAUGHT IN A MOTHERFUCKING TRAGEDY

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link

haha fuck it, i'm gonna say it

rihanna 'umbrella' = rnb 'drums of death'

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

i thought it was

AUDACITY TO BLASPHEME ME

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

same cymbal and everything

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

unkle is in my top 10 from that year, i even like "rabbit in your headlights" and *especially* i like "lonely souls"

the one that i think is really bad is the mike d track.

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

uhhh 'drums of death' as in said kool g one obv, not that beasties one

xp

blaspheme me? hmmmm

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

oh yeah was this the one where u could rewind the cd past 0:00 and hear a mix of all their influences and stuff!!

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

yep -- not doable on itunes but iirc a lot of stuff they couldn't have paid for.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

NINE POINT EIGHT??!?!

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I liked the Thom Yorke song from that record, I think.

Jordan, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Since Lavelle can't play a note of music, most of the actual studio work was left to Shadow the FAMOUS MULTI-INSTRUMENTALIST who played every note of the thing.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link

EVEN BETTER THAN ARCADE FIRE, FOLKS!!

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember someone in the Wire annihilating "Psyence fiction" on its release - it was one of my fave reviews ever.

-- jed_e_3


remember this too. rob young i think?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

How dare you all criticize pretty much the most highly regarded music publication on the Internet here.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

"these guys in unkle are the same sort of losers who think sun ra was on drugs" <-- all time WTF remark

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

"Mo' Wax Records founder James Lavelle, on the other hand, is recognized as a real ideas-man with a great head for business." <-- all time #2 WTF remark

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually that entire Pitchfork review is pretty WTF.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

good thread revive

deej, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link

BTW : mo'wax r.i.p.

the new UNKLE stuff is on a different label, No Surrender, so i guess this is the final nail in the mo'wax coffin.

anyone heard the new material yet - the 2*7" was in the shops on monday, but very limited and so now gone, though all the tracks are to be on the new album so i wasn't that bothered despite the very nice packaging.

mark e, Thursday, 17 May 2007 08:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Goldie is definitely a good example

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 1 April 2016 14:01 (eight years ago) link

is this supposed to sound like old library music? 2015! who knew?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1lwvxyveJQ

scott seward, Friday, 1 April 2016 14:31 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

That talk talk sample on rabbit is dope

kolakube (Ross), Saturday, 3 March 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link

even i found the latest album somewhat lacking ...

mark e, Saturday, 3 March 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link

did unkle come up on the record collection music thread? because...

mh, Monday, 5 March 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link

b**** n**** with the audacity to blaspheme me
got yourself caught in a motherfucking tragedy

the late great, Monday, 5 March 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link

I was maybe too persistently mean about James Lavelle in here

so that documentary that apparently came out(?), did anyone here see it?

mh, Monday, 5 March 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link

i dunno, lavelle is pretty lame, as good as his label was ...

the late great, Monday, 5 March 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link

apparently there's also the issue of a kickstarter campaign from 2013 that has yet to deliver:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mowax21/urban-archaeology-21-years-of-mowax/comments

mh, Monday, 5 March 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

new Ronin album/mixtape starts off with the usual UNKLE widescreen/downtempo/moody excess, and then takes a swerve.
best thing james has released in ages.

mark e, Thursday, 1 April 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link

Admittedly I just skimmed through it — from what I heard the production is fine for the most part if still mining around that good ol prog house vein. Some of the vocals are less than appealing.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 2 April 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link

tis all about the 'if we dont make it' edit that uses a sample from an old soul classic for me.
of course, its UNKLE, and so, its never going to break boundaries.
but i am a sucker for the UNKLE thing.

mark e, Friday, 2 April 2021 21:31 (three years ago) link


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