― deru, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 07:31 (nineteen years ago) link
BUT, if you can look beyond what they became and trim away the tripe, there's gems in there. personally, i only have the '66-'70 stuff. so, they go from stoner-hippie to LSD laced acrobatics to neo-revolutionary types in the scope of 4 years and make some great tunes. alot of "takes off" can be forgetable based on the sentiments, but it's actually pretty solid. "pillow", as much as it's overplayed, still has some highlights on it. "baxters" is my favorite, as it's the most tripped out stuff. "crown" has some holdover from that."volunteers" also has moments, but is also the last JA album where everyone's contributing, and for me, that's where it ends.
― eedd, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― eman (eman), Saturday, 5 March 2005 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 10 March 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Friday, 11 March 2005 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― eman (eman), Friday, 11 March 2005 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 11 March 2005 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― eman (eman), Friday, 11 March 2005 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 11 March 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 11 March 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
No. If explained, annoying statements such as "Better than the Beatles" are no longer nearly as annoying.
So, not in explanation of the above, Grace Slick doesn't seem like any other hippie singers, unless you count Ann Wilson and Courtney Love as hippie singers. But then, the hippies were more punk than the punks were anyway.
Jack Casady played bass for James Brown.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 11 March 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
(What argument?)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 11 March 2005 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 11 March 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 11 March 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Burr (Burr), Friday, 11 March 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 11 March 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 11 March 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 11 March 2005 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― deru, Friday, 11 March 2005 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 10 April 2005 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Curious George (1/6 Scale Model) (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link
re: the comparison upthread with amon düül 2, the similarity in looks of grace slick and renate knaup is uncannyhttp://www.herbgreenefoto.com/gallery/jefferson_airplane/grace-2.jpghttp://www.mic.gr/dbimages/1071_1.jpg
― Amon (eman), Sunday, 15 May 2005 01:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 15 May 2005 01:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link
but, that's mine opine.
― eedd, Tuesday, 24 May 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amon (eman), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link
Everytime I play "Two Heads" off "Bathing at Baxter's" when I DJ it out, I get kids running up, wanting to know what the hell it is. That's one hell of a bass line.
― Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 20 April 2006 02:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 20 April 2006 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link
Also baffled on the Slick hatred.
― mts (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 20 April 2006 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 20 April 2006 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― mts (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 20 April 2006 02:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― nervous.gif (eman), Thursday, 20 April 2006 02:51 (seventeen years ago) link
Classic though White Rabbit and Somebody to Love may be, they fall easily into that category of songs that, once they lose their initial, fresh power, never regain it. Grace Slick oversings and I cringe now at the very thought of it. And that's Pillow spoiled.
― someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Thursday, 20 April 2006 03:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 20 April 2006 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― eedd, Thursday, 20 April 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 20 April 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― js (honestengine), Thursday, 20 April 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― dave q (listerine), Thursday, 20 April 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link
up against tha wall, muthafucka!
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 20 April 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link
aw c'mon they're not that bad
― A nervous goat is a force to be reckoned with (teenagequiet), Thursday, 20 April 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― TS: Mick Ralphs vs. Ariel Bender (Dada), Friday, 21 April 2006 10:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― def zep (calstars), Friday, 21 April 2006 11:29 (seventeen years ago) link
i went back and listened to Takes Off/Surrealistic/Baxters- a pretty solid run right there, for any band of the day. granted, there's some filler-fodder, but i mean, c'mon! it WAS the 60's fer christ's sake!
that said, Skippy shoulda stayed and played some gtr!! JA coulda had 'Hey, Grandma', 'Omaha', and any number of Skip tunes had they let him hang around...
― eedd, Friday, 21 April 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link
There are a couple of later vintage Jefferson Airplane Fillmore releases. The one from 68 sounds pretty thin but the 69 one is pretty good.
I think it and Bless Its Pointed… kind of give you an idea what it might liked to be at one of those ballroom shows. Jack Cassady is a beast and those live records get to show more what him and Jorma could do.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 14 January 2024 02:15 (two months ago) link
I have tried and failed to like Pointed Little Head, but I remember some good live tracks on that 90's box set?
their version of "High Flying Bird" at Monterey is so rad, why the heck was this left off the album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F51JKnSzjRs
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 14 January 2024 02:20 (two months ago) link
by "the album" I mean that the song itself was never on an LP, why was it not on Surrealistic Pillow or Bathing idk
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 14 January 2024 02:21 (two months ago) link
They even cut it in the studio with Signe for Takes Off!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL1vGiRYlbA
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 January 2024 02:24 (two months ago) link
yeah I think it was (insanely) relegated to a B-side
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 14 January 2024 02:48 (two months ago) link
no I guess an outtake?!? even more insane
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 14 January 2024 02:53 (two months ago) link
btw this is where I mention that Early Flight also rules and is essential
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 14 January 2024 02:54 (two months ago) link
yeah for sure, absolutely love their “high flying bird”, Marty and grace go hardAlso: “HAVE YOU SEEN THE SAUCERS”Also: JA RULES
― brimstead, Sunday, 14 January 2024 03:16 (two months ago) link
The chord progression and feel is so evocative, it seems to me there should have been some long 12 minute modal jam of “White Rabbit”.
The Airplane had the tunes but were a bit more reserved on the jams. Quicksilver had the jams but did not have the tunes.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 14 January 2024 05:47 (two months ago) link
The Great Society version of "White Rabbit" has extended groove jam opening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxxnDGWI3e8
If you're a Grace fan, that Great Society live twofer live CD is a must.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 January 2024 06:13 (two months ago) link
Yeah that’s a great disc.
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Sunday, 14 January 2024 06:32 (two months ago) link
Say, can I have some of your purple berries?Yes, I've been eating them for six or seven weeks nowHaven't got sick onceProbably keep us both alive
I was thinking about this line from "Wooden Ships" last night; how it represents the strength the counterculture derived from the continuum of rock music history up to that point (from Chuck Berry to Deep Purple.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 14 January 2024 17:07 (two months ago) link
(fwiw, took some doing, but I tracked down the 516-page Kantner book. b/w scans of 516 8x11 pages of text with drawings (by Kantner), hieroglyphics, etc. in a single PDF. If you need it, get in touch.)
For a quick overview of this acid-deranged/visionary project, which was a sequel to Blows Against the Empire: Planet Earth Rock and Roll Orchestra (album)
― jaywbabcock, Friday, 26 January 2024 19:15 (two months ago) link