meltzer's gulcher is actually my favourite meltzerjohn cage: silence tosches: country and unsung rock'n'roll heroes music grooves: keil and feld adorno's book on wagner henry pleasants: the great american popular singersben thomps*n's two books (disclaimer: he's a really close friend)
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 13:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
I agree with Nathalie about Greil Marcus, although I did like Mystery Train. He's got a lot of people fooled.
― Jim M (jmcgaw), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 13:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― robin (robin), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
Another vote for 'Psychotic Reactions and Carburretor Dung' - a very entertaining read.
Craig Werner - 'A Change is Gonna Come: Music, Race and the Soul of America' is excellent.
Charles Shaar Murray - 'Crosstown Traffic' - looks at Hendrix from a variety of angles.
― James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 14:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
robin: his other book is "ways of hearing"
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 14:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
The Recording Angel by Evan Eisenberg (much slept-on book, and sadly OOP)The Rise and Fall of Popular Music by Donald Clarke (you don't have to agree with him to find it fascinating)Flowers in the Dustbin by James Miller (ditto)It Came From Memphis by Robert Gordon (not about music only, but close enough)
Subtract:
Guralnick's non-Elvis booksMarcus' twaddle-laden Basement Tapes bookToop's twaddle-laden ExoticaTosches' twaddle-laden Where Dead Voices Gather (and I say that as a huge fan)
I don't see Stranded anywhere. It's a bit dated, but there's some great writing there.
― Lee G (Lee G), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 14:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 14:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 14:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 14:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 15:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
or better yet, Dogwalker, by Arthur Bradford, it's not about music, but if you like music, you'll like his stories.
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 15:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
I take it lists and cronology are not your thing. :)
― Macattack (Macattack), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
It's a pretty good social study all around, though.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
these are the 5 I would go with for joyful and informative reading. If you choose to go the Greil Marcus route, God help you. I just never found his writing enjoyable. Informative maybe but nothing to spend a present on. Check those out from the library.
― Carey, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'd add Val Wilmer's As Serious as Your Life, for starters.
― hstencil, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― TMFTML (TMFTML), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― TMFTML (TMFTML), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 17:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 17:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'll second Bidini's On a Cold Road, though it may be of limited interest to those outside Canada. And Meltzer's A Whore... is definitely worth having, especially to see his evolution through the years.
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
Boy George - Take it like a man - one of the, if not THE, finest rock autobiography. His tales of cold turkey with Diana Ross and Marilyn were brilliant....
― russ t, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 17:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
Tosches' Hellfire -- Similar to Booth's Stones book, Hellfire's writing is timeless, coming off like Faulkner and Twain. The way he breaks down Jerry Lee Lewis (God, the devil & dirt) is ingenious.
Meltzer's Gulcher -- His best work. His writing is spectacular, loose but tight and always on the verge of big ideas.
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 17:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
Nik Cohn's Ball the wall, which collects most of his writing from the 60's and 70's.
Brian Eno's A year with swollen appendices.
Bill Drummond's 45, and if you can find it How to have a number one the easy way.
I know he's not particularly hip but Simon Frith's Music for pleasure covers a lot of similar ground to the discussions which regularly reoccur on ILM.
Chris Heath's two books about the Pet Shop Boys are excellent too, especially Pet Shop Boy's versus America, which has some fantastic Pennie Smith photos.
As for (auto)biography. I'd go for Julian Cope's Head on/Repossessed, Tom Doyle's Billy Mackenzie bio The glamour chase and Charles Mingus's Beneath the underdog
And finally try to get Ray Lowry's Ink and It's only rock n' roll. One of the most acerbic and incisive commentators in the business.
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 17:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
VERY good choice. The more time goes on the more I'm frustrated with Mackenzie's death and his obscurity.
Seconded, thirded and fourthed.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 17:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
Although he has this strange idea that he's the only rock writer that likes 80s glam metal/non-alternative rock, it bugs the fuck out of me. At least that's the impression I got. But he really knows his stuff!
― Arthur (Arthur), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Burr, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
oh and by the way chris, ned - if you go here :
http://petshopboys.net/default.html
and click 'literallys',you can read transcripts and see pictures from everyoriginal chris heath-penned psb 'literally' fan magazine, from the mid 80's to present. they are all wreittenin the same style as the books and they are ace.
isn't the internet great ?
― piscesboy, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
Klostermann's regard of himself as the holder of absolute truth grates, on that point and others. In that respect he's cloned the crimes of those indier-than-thou writers he's trying to set himself up against. Which is a pity, because as noted, he's got the right idea and plenty to say. I find the afterword in the new edition to be something that should have been left off, he ends up shooting himself in the foot when he doesn't need to.
Yay internet!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
You forgot, "you pieces of shit."
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 19:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 19:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 20:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
Am I the only person who Likes The Trouser Press Guides??
― brg30 (brg30), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 23:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― NO TIME FOR SCREAMING, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 00:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 01:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 02:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 02:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 02:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
Can't believe nobody's mentioned Jon Savage's England's Dreaming - am I the only person whose whole worldview it changed?
― Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 02:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 02:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 04:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 04:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 04:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://12.11.184.13/boston/music/other_stories/documents/00630909.htm
― charlie va (charlie va), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 04:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Slavoj Zizek's wife, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― James, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link
OMG I FORGOT! THAT'S THE MOST CRAZY ENTERTAINING SURREAL AUTOBIO EVER! Rollins on ghost writing too I guess....
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link
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― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 2 February 2006 02:34 (eighteen years ago) link