― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― C-Taylor, Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt (Matt), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― DUH (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link
"NOBODY PUTS BABY IN A CORNER!" *jig jig jig*
"DRAT."
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― S. Freud, Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― S. Freud, Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 9 July 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― g e o f f (gcannon), Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― g e o f f (gcannon), Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link
Until Million Dollar Baby, Titanic was the only Best Picture Oscar-winner I thought even remotely worth the accolades since that other Eastwood picture... and pretty much nothing else until before I was born.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 9 July 2005 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link
Off work with a fever today, and watched Pretty Woman for the first time. What a strange one. It's really well made, but at the same time just unbelievably bland - even JR's performance is merely okay. (She looks great though.)
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 14 July 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3a/60/75/3a607505485efecced1ae51d02c01f93.jpg
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link
"Dirty Dancing" has, without any irony, a great soundtrack.mostly otm, but c'mon dude... "she's like the wind"???
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, November 25, 2004 5:37 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
she's like the wind is so so so fucking terrible
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
Pretty Woman was initially conceived to be a dark drama about prostitution in Los Angeles in the 1980s.[4] The relationship between Vivian and Edward also originally harboured controversial themes, including the concept of having Vivian addicted to drugs; part of the deal was that she had to stay off cocaine for a week, because she needed the money to go to Disneyland. Edward eventually throws her out of his car and drives off.
― An Ice-Cold Glass of Frothy, Delicious Milk (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
I watched the shit out of Dirty Dancing when I was a pre-teen. Re-watching it recently it ocurred to me how adult it was. Pretty sure that must have been where I learned about abortion.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link
"I carried a watermelon?" still pops into my head on the reg and, come on people, ORBACH.
lol i watched a bunch of pretty woman last week, it sucked so bad.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 July 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link
The best scene in pretty woman is the whole you work on commission big mistake big huge scene.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link
Also, George Costanza.
not to mention Roxette
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link
Beaches should have been included in this thread not Titanic (which blows but still).
Beaches, Dirty Dancing, Pretty Woman, Ghost
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link
the contemporary (well not anymore)(btw more time has passed between dirty dancing and today than had passed between when dirty dancing was set and when it came out) soundtrack in dirty dancing doesn't bother me, it's generally incidental music and no more a part of the 'reality' than the score or whatever would be, but it has always thrown me that at the climax they're suddenly listening to this song that clearly couldn't have come out in 1963 and nobody's weirded out about it.
― balls, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 00:15 (nine years ago) link
considering how expectation-bursting huge the two romantic movies patrick swayze made were, it's kind of amazing he didn't make more.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link
hell even his romance with keanu did pretty good, why the fuck was he making corny family shit like father hood and three wishes just two years later
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 00:42 (nine years ago) link
not sure i'd put beaches in place of titanic (feels like it belongs on a list with fried green tomatoes and steel magnolias), but def agree titanic is out of place. not sure what would work as a fourth though - the contemporaneous absurd/absurdly successful kevin costner and tom cruise movies feel like their own beasts, and dying young underperformed enough to be an obvious Ringo if it was put with the other three.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 00:52 (nine years ago) link
is edward scissorhands too goth?
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 00:53 (nine years ago) link
Titanic has Victor Garber in a supporting role. Pretty Woman has Ralph Bellamy in his last (?) screen credit. If any of the other films have any similar redeeming (?) virtues, I don't want to know about it.
― Miss Anne Thrope (j.lu), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 01:32 (nine years ago) link
https://hollywoodhatesme.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/lenny-briscoe.jpg
― balls, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link
Titanic > Ghost > Pretty Woman > Death > Dirty Dancing
― You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 01:54 (nine years ago) link
"she's like the wind" is totally a lost christopher cross song isn't it
― balls, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 03:28 (nine years ago) link
DD > Titanic > Pretty Woman > Ghost
The first one is a really good film, the 2nd one is creditable, the other two bleh.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 03:43 (nine years ago) link
but yeah this is a weird list to start w/
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 03:44 (nine years ago) link
i was trying to find a jpeg or gif of richard gere making his 'i'm loving this blowjob' face in pretty woman, that was a pretty good era for blowjob faces in cinema.
― balls, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 03:52 (nine years ago) link
http://www.namebadgesandbuttons.com/store/images/products/mcdonalds%20im%20lovin%20it%20button.jpg
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 04:28 (nine years ago) link
no lie I can't resist this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9BbUqHrWFI
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 August 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
watchin pretty woman its p good
― under a mand'rin tsar (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link
Otm. Dirty Dancing by a million miles.
― treeship., Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:19 (three years ago) link
Titanic plays in the first half as a predictable period romance, then it flips over into epic with a slight suggestion of horror. It's OK enough as such BIG films go. I might think about watching it again in a decade or so. If I'm bored.
Ghost is schlocky nonsense that had a few laughs here and there to partly redeem it. Pretty Woman just sounds very bad, so I will never see it.
Dirty Dancing sounds like it might be fun schlock, but I've never seen it.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:22 (three years ago) link
Pretty Woman is the only one of these I’ve seen more than once (my sister wore the VHS out during our teen years) and, I dunno, I guess its kind of a guilty pleasure. I credit Hector Elizondo and Ralph Bellamy’s supporting work for most of the affection I have towards it.
― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:24 (three years ago) link
Are we comparing these films on their entertainment value or on their class politics?
On both axes, Dirty Dancing reigns supreme. James Cameron is only capable of feigning outrage at injustice; in all of his films, he fetishizes it. And as for Pretty Woman, well, it just scrubs sex work of its exploitative dimension.
In Dirty Dancing, it is the proletariat Patrick Swayze who wins in the end, exposing the shallow prejudices of the resort members, especially Baby’s father. And he doesn’t have to die for this either. In that movie, liberation is thinkable.
― treeship., Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link
*proletarian
― treeship., Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:34 (three years ago) link
i'm pretty sure poster "c taylor" in 2004 was not asking us to compare these films on their class politics, and i'll respond in their spirit.
dirty dancing is an incredible movie born of the specificity of its setting and the joy of watching two young people who are in insanely good shape dance and have sex. it's unimpeachable.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:38 (three years ago) link
But it’s also a true indictment of the prejudices of the upper class. Emotionally, it really does side with the workers. These other movies can’t say that.
― treeship., Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link
Emotionally and aesthetically. This seems to be the important lens for these three films, which all touch on class issues more directly than the vast majority of hollywood movies.
― treeship., Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:40 (three years ago) link
completely agree, there is for sure a class element to dirty dancing that is much more coherent than something like pretty woman which does not seem to present a realistic take on sex work
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link
treesh my dude do you ever just like, have fun?
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:47 (three years ago) link
I also think it’s a fun movie with great music and that jennifer grey has great on-screen chemistry with patrick swayze
― treeship., Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link
Forgot ghost was in this poll too. I’ve never actually seen that one.
― treeship., Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link
if you want a serious defense of titanic, dave kehr was a fan
https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/archives-titanic-fantastic-voyage-article-1.2017563
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link