Minnesota/Minnesotans C or D

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Classic for these reasons:
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Carleton College
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Dud:
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St. Olaf College
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pholm, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 13:50 (twenty years ago) link

a gas station somewhere between Minneapolis and Moorhead
a Target somewhere between Minneapolis and Moorhead
a dumpy bar in Moorhead
some restaurant that kinda sucked in Moorhead

I'd like to see more of the state.

Well you pretty much covered everything between Minneapolis and Moorhead (as well as Moorhead) so you can check that off the list.

pholm, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

But if you ever have to make the drive again tune into St. Cloud State's radio station KVSC (88.1 FM and kvsc.org streams it online). Probably the best college station in the state and on a good day you can get it almost as far west as Alexandria on I-94.

pholm, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 13:56 (twenty years ago) link

I have yet to see one mention of MST3K here. I am disappointed in you all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

Mike's not that funny anymore.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago) link

It's not a matter of timeliness or current incarnation, otherwise why bring up the Replacements?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:41 (twenty years ago) link

kqrs: dud

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:52 (twenty years ago) link

haha radioK-CLASSIC, right nate?

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:53 (twenty years ago) link

So did any of you ever turn your knob to BOB?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:53 (twenty years ago) link

kqrs: dud

Yet, somehow at the same time: Classic.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

ok ok: aerosmith, heart, billy squier: classic

tom bernard: racist.

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago) link

Hey Don that zoo you're thinking of is the Como Zoo; I live a couple miles away from it and it is great. Also, in a lot of places (maybe it's just in Minneapolis? I don't know) the bars are now open until 2am. As if I ever go out.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago) link

One bad thing about Como is that it's a zoo in the old-school sense of the word. It has really tiny enclosures compared to most zoos proper these days.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

i like suzy, but that's about it.

minneapolis was my traumatic home for about a month while i decided i did NOT want to be a flight attendant. it was hell. really and truly.

on a roadtrip a couple years later i decided to give it a second chance. it didn't help.

i don't know about the rest of the state, but i hate minneapolis.

colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link

God, I was in town shortly after they (finally) switched to a reasonable bar time. Shit was insane, like people were drunk with their newfound freedom to be, er, drunk. I saw at least huge barfight and one dumpster set on fire (REALLY on fire), and then we were sitting outside at this place called Asia and missed being the victims of a random drive-by egging by mere inches.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

Does the Como Zoo still have that tiny little amusement park with the Tilt-a-Whirl and I don't remember what other rides (were/are there other rides?) Haven't been there since grade school.

pholm, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

i'll have to go to asia more often...

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

tho i think it might be 'azia'

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

Minnesotans sure are tricky. They're aloof, reserved, sometimes stand-offish. They'd come across as assholes in this respect were it not for the fact that they're constantly giving up their left arms for those in need and washing the feet of tired strangers.

When I was twenty and living alone in an apartment off of Franklin, a woman from the liquor store invited me to her family's house for Thanksgiving. I think that I may have been the only person there under 200 pounds, and the only man under 6'3". They fed me like a brother, got me drunk on Schnapp's, and it was TEH BEST THANKSGIVNG EVAH.

It was just one family in NE Minneapolis, but I'll stick up for Minnesotans any day of the week. Even the screedy James Lileks.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago) link

I have a lot of family in Minnesota, and I remember going to family reunions when I was a kid and stopping on the way to get really fantastic pie from a place called the Norski Nook or something. But that could just as well have been in Wisconsin, I suppose. I mean, it might have been. But if it is in Minnesota, that is something I like about Minnesota a lot.
The only times I've been to Minneapolis, I've just seen tons of hippies and had bad food and a really bad time. I'm sure it's an okay city, but my experiences were very, very dud.

kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:46 (twenty years ago) link

Probably the best college station in the state and on a good day you can get it almost as far west as Alexandria on I-94.

It's been awhile for me, but I always really enjoyed Radio K. College radio sounds so beautiful on the AM band.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link

It is Azia, and really poncey for Minneapolis.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 17:50 (twenty years ago) link

it's like chiang mai only with shittier food and an uglier waitstaff. and it's more expensive.

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:37 (twenty years ago) link

classic classic classic classic classic.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

Pizza Luce.
Sebastian Joe's ice cream.
Cheapo (founded/started there), particularly the St. Paul Cheapo.
Lifter fucking Puller.
Atmos-fucking-sphere.
Triple Rock (bar/restaurant AND live venue).
Peter S. Scholtes, Melissa Maerz, Dylan Hicks, Kate Silver, Michael Tortorello--pretty much everyone on City Pages' arts staff/freelancers, really. Rod Smith and Nate Patrin. It just goes ON like that. Truly the scariest one-stop-spot for music/arts writing talent in the country; Will Hermes, Jon Dolan, Laura Sinagra, Kate Sullivan, Keith Harris, and a few others I'm forgetting came out of that paper/environment, and they're all favorites of mine.
Rex Sorgatz, whose linkblog I miss.
Old houses with like 80 hidden rooms; mansions converted to fourplexes.
The Electric Fetus.
CHEAP ASS RENT.

God, sometimes I want to move back there so badly.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link

the changing of the seasons here is fucking intense. i know it's cliche but it's true. you never get used to it. it's like one gigantic mass manic depression seesaw

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

and that's a good thing!

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

St. Cloud State's radio station KVSC[...]Probably the best college station in the state and on a good day you can get it almost as far west as Alexandria on I-94.

I can get it in from the cities all the way to Sauk Centre which is pretty damn good. I like it better than Radio K as well. But please don't forget KUMM the praries only alternative. We have to be classic if only for our call letters. Also worth noting is Rev 105 which all us kids thought was the coolest thing ever at the time.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link

kumm!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link

That's almost as good as KLIT in LA!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

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Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:32 (twenty years ago) link

"Drive" 105 sucks ass now. And the college station in St. Cloud is usually better than Rad. K.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

Norski Nook is in Osseo, WI (actually I think it IS Osseo). MMMMMM PIIIIEEEEE.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

I can get it in from the cities all the way to Sauk Centre which is pretty damn good

Yeah, that's usually around where it cuts out for me, too. But I used to have an '82 Olds a few years back that would get it just about to the rest area right before Alex. Only good thing about that car.

I used to hate MN with a passion growing up (could be because it was way out in the sticks) but now that I've gotten a little bit older and done a bit of traveling I've realized that all in all it's a pretty nice to be.

Also, it's the only place in the U.S. (well most of the upper midwest according to A Short History of Nearly Everything) that doesn't have to worry about earthquakes!

pholm, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

The guy who founded Rev 105 was a really good friend of mine, and I did the occasional 'letter from Britain'-type thing for them. Totally upfront Anglophile radio stations never manage to last long in Minnesota.

C/D:

Don Shelby/Diana Pierce
Sebastian Joe's seconded - I know of no better way to completely negate the good work done on arse by 10 mile bike ride around Lake Harriet/Steve and Sharon aaaaahghghh
Red Dragon/food at the Red Dragon

HUGE shout-out to Chris K.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:27 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeah, Red Dragon has good cocktails.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

haha Suzy, Kevin Cole lives in Seattle now! He's awesome, we're having lunch sometime soon (when we have time that is)--and Radio Depth Probe was TOTALLY my initiation into house and techno, so that in itself gets mad, fucked-up props.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

also I saw Chris K at the Pixies, we said hi but it was so crowded we couldn't talk. ah well.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:32 (twenty years ago) link

KEVIN COLE IS A GOD AMONGST MEN. Three cheers to Lies, Incorporated!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:32 (twenty years ago) link

Red Dragon/food at the Red Dragon

haha so so right

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

Kevin Cole Fan Club: yes, I know, as with Rod Smith (who with Ron Clark was Lies, Inc), I've known the guy since I was 15 and hassling clerks for Smiths 12"s. His wife Shawn has *scary* poise.

Funniest thing: Acieed House Helen and I were at Reading one year and bumped into Kevin Cole shepherding five contest winners around the festival; I was gobsmacked. She was doing Trance Europe Express then and so it was a bit of a meeting of minds, and we all had crazy fun.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:42 (twenty years ago) link

I am inordinately excited that I am on friendly terms with people who can tell Kevin Cole that when I was 19, I worshipped him.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

we all did, dude.

I have long considered starting a microlabel to reissue his old Radio Depth Probes WHICH HE STILL HAS THE REEL-TO-REELS OF, EVERY GODDAMNED ONE OF THEM. cough, cough.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:49 (twenty years ago) link

OH MY GOD.

OH MY GOD.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago) link

(here's where I rag on J0n Br3am. He tries to charge mad fees if people call him for Prince info yet is so repugnant he cannot get work as a stringer for Billboard - and he has asked!)

Yeah, Kevin is just one of those people that can get things going and those people are always evident, even when the person is working in Platters. He's also notable for not succumbing to that evil bloaty big fish, small pond thing that a lot of old scenesters get in Minneapolis.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago) link

Matos, can you get him to send me a CD of the show where the second half started out with "Closer To All Your Dreams" and mixed into a Hypnotist white-label? I think "Jump Around" and a remix of "Cobra Bora" were in that particular set, too.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:53 (twenty years ago) link

Rod Smith is incredibly good about that last point as well.

haha Dan, I think they're all in storage in Mpls! He's mentioned it a lot, it's like he's taunting me or something.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:54 (twenty years ago) link

me, I'm especially partial to the set whose 2nd half began with Sabrina Johnston's TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME HAPPY-HOUSE BOMB "I Wanna Sing" ("I sing for harmony--yeah!/I sing for unity--yeah!" oh god it's just about the best vocal-house record EVER and I've NEVER seen the fucker reissued anywhere, what's up with that), went into something vaguely Latin-ish and just kept going. Used to CANE the tape I made of that show (one of his last--second or third to last, maybe?) and REALLY miss it right now.

sorry for all-caps gush but Dan and Suzy feel me I'm sure.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:56 (twenty years ago) link

OH YES.

There was another set where he went from some evil-sounding gabber track into "People Everyday" by Arrested Development that was FUCKING AMAZING. I actually saw him do that one live at First Avenue and I've never seen a happier crowd EVER.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

(Rod once tried to write a hip-hop/techno opera about the pillages of Heliogabalus. Tell me this does not surprise you)

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think the existence of a k mart on that block was what people disliked about it, but again, was never a local

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 16:52 (five months ago) link

Correct; no objections to the Kmart itself (though, obv, I don't speak for everyone ... I'm sure there were plenty of residents who hated it because it attracted lower class shoppers). It was merely the building's function as a bulwark, dividing the neighborhood in half.

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 17:09 (five months ago) link

I also believe that the largely immigrant restaurants that turned Nicollet North of Lake into "Eat Street" never could have thrived without that K Mart making it less attractive to developers. the only harm it caused was drivers having to drive around it, big deal.

I'm sure they are licking their chops to gentrify it now and drive the local low income population out.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 17:10 (five months ago) link

look forward to a couple new ugly apartment buildings with a shitty brewery on the first floor

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 17:12 (five months ago) link

LOL, plenty of speculation lately that they'll do exactly the same thing to the brutalist Nicollet Mall YMCA building if/when they knock that down

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 17:13 (five months ago) link

Apparently Minnesota is redesigning the state flag, and there have been over 2000 submissions to date. Needless to say, there are some really good ones, if you are willing to dig:

https://serc.mnhs.org/flags

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 November 2023 20:03 (five months ago) link

four months pass...

good riddance and FUUUUUCK YOU

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/15/business/uber-lyft-minneapolis-minimum-wage/index.html

budo jeru, Friday, 15 March 2024 20:19 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

I don't want to clog up another thread with a niche observation, but the new Taylor Swift album so far is very Cities 97 circa 1990.

paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 19 April 2024 04:49 (six days ago) link

lmao

budo jeru, Friday, 19 April 2024 14:36 (six days ago) link

haha let's line up to get it at a Best Buy in Bloomington like an old Cities 97 sampler

Apologies for deflecting the thread away from Swift talk but why is this state so fucking windy?

the scouse that roared (Matt #2), Friday, 19 April 2024 17:37 (six days ago) link

Good question. The wind tunnel on 7th Street downtown between Nicollet Mall and Hennepin (where a lot of buses stop) is fairly legendary.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 19 April 2024 17:59 (six days ago) link


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