its funny how everyone is allowed their own paleo, i guess the idea re fat is that before agriculture fatty meat and butter did not exist, and then in the book theyll tell you abt the metabolic science behind it
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
livin in you own private paleo
― carne asada, Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
I want to try beet juice, but the only way I can find it locally is at Whole Foods, mixed w/ carrot and ginger for $5/12 oz
lol - now that you mention it, I remember reading this a while back: http://gawker.com/5929716/all-the-olympic-athletes-are-guzzling-beet-juice
― Broney, Pt. 1 (Pillbox), Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not the type that's gonna cut anything out on a permanent basis but i do think paleo is really, really useful for being mindful of your grain intake vis a vis fruits, vegetables, and lean protein.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
juicing is generally considered no cool amongst most contemporary fitness fanatics from what i can tell, tho that may vary if youre a competitive athlete
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
Just get a juicer, milo. It'll be worth it in the long run. i have afriend who makes all kinds of crazy juices with veg and whatnot and some of them are amazing tonics. She's had this juicer now for at least ten years.
― The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
fatty meat existed before agriculture! fish, game meat, etc. Not 80/20 ground beef, I guess, but still fat.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
What, besides dairy, is out of a paleo diet? I assume that, even before agriculture, ppl ate certain grains and nuts and fruits as they encountered them else how would we ever have decided to cultivate them?
― The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
nuts and fruit are totally paleo jut don't eat too much
― carne asada, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
That's what I figured. Lots of insects and grubs, too, right?
― The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
sure go for it
― carne asada, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
okay to eat yr neighbours?
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
i use paleo as a basic foundation for my diet.. but i'm gonna eat beans, quinoa, greek yogurt, steel cut oats, tomatoes and drink booze til i d-i-e
― it's smdh time in America (will), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:03 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it had fat in it but would be described by todays standards as lean meat, there was no marbled rib eye to be had
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
What, besides dairy, is out of a paleo diet?
This is kind of my sticking point: life without cheese is a misnomer.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
Life w/o cheese is nightmarish and I agree with will. I try to keep grains to a relative minimum calorie-wise and have largely shifted away from bleached flours or white rice and have added quinoa, buckwheat, farro but even those in relative moderation. I no longer eat a lot of beef but when I do it's grass-fed and leaner.
― The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
thanks for the new dn
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
may the movement increase and flourish
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
sandwich or ice cr?m sandwich
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the thing we are working with is def not crazy person strict paleo, its called "practical paleo" iirc. frankly anything that gives me an excuse/reason to make lamb dolmas is aok with me.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
and yeah i think the "science" behind this is pretty yeah sure whatever, but the food is good and i feel less crappy after i eat, so
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
no nightshade vegetables?? kinda shit is that
― goole, Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
i sort of run on something like this diet by habit anyway. don't much like bread, not much of a sweet tooth.
― goole, Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
and yeah i think the "science" behind this is pretty yeah sure whatever
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:42 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
u shd read the paleo book, i mean u can yeah sure w/e it but there is a lot of science in there, its written by a researcher, the bibliography is like 20 pages long
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
man school + stress + indolence has completely scuppered my once-decent dietary habits. so much bad cafeteria food, takeout, and chips and shit.
currently in one of those anxiety loops w/r/t "there are important things you need to do with your free time that are actually very important but for god's sake man you have GOT to clean out the fridge and stop ordering pizza"
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
haha pizza is so good
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
i have the Paleo For Athletes book, i should read it one of these days
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
i moved to the country and theres no delivery is the only reason im able to eat healthy at all
been eating paleo roughly 80% of the time since the end of june, lost 20lbs, more to lose on the way, loving it
― DX Dx DX (dan m), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
i have paleo for athletes, the differences are p subtle, its really for putting together a training regimen for like doing a marathon or w/e where youre looking to be super precise, rather than being for someone who just gets a lot of exercise
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
man school + stress + indolence has completely scuppered my once-decent dietary habits.
man school will do that to you.
― Broney, Pt. 1 (Pillbox), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
diet fads are the weirdest thing
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
this idea that every 10 years someone has figured out the BEST way for people to eat... it reminds me of parenting books, every 10 years we've FINALLY figured out how to raise children! lol.
*thinks deeply*
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
were you guys all on the atkins diet ten years ago serious question
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
nope, the paleo diet is the only one ive ever tried, the thing that attracted me to it is that its mostly popular w/fitness fanatics rather than people who want to lose weight, and i didnt really need to lose weight but i was interested in eating healthier and getting ripped, so there you go
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
can you smash bricks with your bare hands yet
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
of course
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
yeah basically the paleo way of eating goes really well with my workout habits.
― carne asada, Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
juan atkins diet
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
To be honest, paleo just seems like a dogmatic version of a normal weight-training diet. Pound of kale + whole roast chicken for dinner? Sure. Eliminating carbohydrates is weird to me, though, I don't think that's good for your body. And eliminating nightshades just sounds like insanity.
― a whiter shade of paleo (Ówen P.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
I still do this in phases from time to time. Paleo is a more common-sense, sustainable 'lifestyle' diet imo, but when I want to shed a few pounds, Atkins + exercise has proven to be the most effective method for me. ymmv obv
― Broney, Pt. 1 (Pillbox), Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
― a whiter shade of paleo (Ówen P.), Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you can eat tons of carbs just not starches or refined sugars, as for everyone saying this just seems like common sense, interesting to see how the common sense has changed over the years via the popularity of fad diets, i mean like the us government still recommends a shit ton of starches to this day, although less than they used to
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
not long ago people thought pasta was super healthy cause it doesnt have any fat!
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
you can eat tons of carbs
mmmmm sweet potatoes
― carne asada, Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, OK. My Crossfitting friend told me "no carbs" and I was like "you crazy". He looks good, though. Tough.
― a whiter shade of paleo (Ówen P.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
personally I just try to observe simple rules (drilled into me primarily from my mom, whose father was this guy) - don't eat any processed shit (transfat, junk food, sodas, mass market meat products, etc.), cook at home, eat a lot of veggies (primarily organic produce from the co-op plus our CSA box), meat a couple times a week. that's pretty much it. I walk a mile a day. I do not have a catchy name or rationale for this diet.
xp
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
― a whiter shade of paleo (Ówen P.), Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:22 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well carbs often is just used as shorthand for starches, just also like the sugar in fuit is carbs too
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
so its not like atkins where youre really going for the metabolic response to eating no carbs at all
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
yeah atkins is trying to shoot ketosis all the time
― carne asada, Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
Just use baking soda ftw.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link
microbiome stuff and the human body is pretty fascinating and seems to open the door to a whole new way of understanding health and nutrition, but it's gonna be the wild west out there with the hucksterism.
― ryan, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:24 (eight years ago) link
the guy who started aobiome is the same guy who started a big ALS research non-profit after his brother died from it
― just1n3, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link
i mean
https://twitter.com/johndurant/status/618855099654373376
― goole, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
oh wait i *think* that's a joke
― goole, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
Mr. Jaq and I were in on the initial AOBiome deliveries - it worked well for us as a no soap/no shampoo kind of thing, but didn't really help his eczema.
― Jaq, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link