wouldn't surprise or bother me in the slightest except these guys are huge
maybe there's a US/Europe split on this thread then because I feel like they're barely known over here and maybe that changes the perception. I mean yeah if they played New York there'd be some buzz but not OMG HYPE
xp
― dmr, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I dunno, it feels to me like this is exactly the right time for something like Aeroplane to appear, because it's been a really lean few years for maximalist melodic dance music. I've been saying for a while that it's good to have something again that feels big without being lairy, maybe that quality was what was lost around 2005 when electrohouse faded and noisy Erolclash took over (or minimal, if you're looking the other way, but I'm trying to keep minimal out of this debate).
The Tellier remix was the first one when I thought Aeroplane were drifting too close to electrohouse - if anything I want dancefloor-friendly new Balearic to resemble 2002-era Take Me With You house. Aeroplane's best stuff does that, they have a real feel for a hook - speaking as someone who prefers the Das Pop/Cobra Dukes/Caramellas end of their sound to the Grace Jones/Tellier end.
(xpost - is the hype really happening anywhere outside ILM?)
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link
ha, i was gunna say the same thing, cuz they are by no means HUGE in the US. i don't even think they've done a single set here
― tropical beards of paradise (san frandisco), Monday, 26 January 2009 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link
(I think a parallel shift might be happening with funky, steps back to pop after a few years of moody or aggro post-garage sounds).
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link
is this aeroplane backlash about aeroplane specifically, or nu-balearica/cosmic disco whatnot generally? b/c it doesn't make sense to me if it's the former. i don't feel aeroplane's aesthetic is noticeably different to any other nu-balearic act, or even lindstrom in non-conceptual mode, it's just that they're slightly poppier and have more regular output. their position vis-a-vis that scene is a bit like jacques lu cont vis-a-vis electrohouse.
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:59 (fifteen years ago) link
oh what's the point :)
― Local Garda, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Haha I was about to say I want to try and avoid getting into rigid aesthetic lines because it's going to be a bit like looking into a mirror and saying 'Pipecock' three times.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link
is the hype really happening anywhere outside ILM?
yes, definitely. it's building, building, building. they will be huge by the summer. i have the demos for the album and while it isn't my thing it is easy to hear that it will sell vast amounts.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:06 (fifteen years ago) link
or at least be a hot torrent!
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link
it will prompt unprecedented facebook status updates
― Local Garda, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link
i will live tweet it
― tricky, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link
YSI
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link
they could do with having more aeroplane sounds on their records, to be honest. or vacuum cleansers that sound like jets.
― feelin' on Djibouti (haitch), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link
it works really well outside of the club setting, which is why i never expect to hear it in a club in glasgow unless it's an aeroplane gig. though if someone wants to point me in that direction...
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:41 (fifteen years ago) link
also, i think the beach boys mix is perfectly matched up to the corny nostalgia of the original.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost. I reckon there's a good chance that you would be able to hear this in a club in Glasgow, though I couldn't name any names.
― Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 01:08 (fifteen years ago) link
i like everything i've heard by them and i'm definitely a casual dance fan, so i don't really care what originality they're bringing to the table or where they stand in the narrative of dance music (i still don't really know what balearic is, you guys).
but to my ears they have a really good sense for hooks and for structure, and they're a lot warmer and more live-sounding than most of the dance music i happen on.
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, January 26, 2009 5:45 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
generally speaking i wouldnt quote jordan here bcuz on dance music hes obv coming at it from this kinda outsider-y "these drums dont sound live enough" re: classic house jazz/rockism which i like to rib him about, but the important part i bolded above is where i think hes totally right -- these guys understand structures & how to build & release which was something that mylo was always terrible at imo -- like he had a great idea/concept but had no clue how to execute or something
― LOOK WHAT I BRING TO THE TABLA (deej), Monday, 2 February 2009 07:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Deej does that apply to "Drop The Pressure" even?
― Tim F, Monday, 2 February 2009 09:39 (fifteen years ago) link
I think Aeroplane have less of a connection to house music than Mylo and pretty much no connection at all to techno. Even at their most up there's barely a decent kick drum in sight. I'm sort of expecting the album to occupy a space somewhere between Lindstrom, Air and some early 00s shiny disco pop I can't quite put my finger on.
― Matt DC, Monday, 2 February 2009 09:50 (fifteen years ago) link
― Tim F, Monday, February 2, 2009 3:39 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is probably an exception - i should have mentioned it -- but even their best vibes like "in my arms" its sorta like "whoa, awesome vibe" for a couple minutes & then yr like "wait was this going anywhere"
― LOOK WHAT I BRING TO THE TABLA (deej), Monday, 2 February 2009 10:09 (fifteen years ago) link
his best vibes i mean
"whoa, awesome vibe" for a couple minutes & then yr like "wait was this going anywhere"
hey there crookers
― jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 February 2009 10:11 (fifteen years ago) link
yah imo another example of no sense of structure -- something aeroplane does a great job with
― LOOK WHAT I BRING TO THE TABLA (deej), Monday, 2 February 2009 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah I get yr point. "Drop The Pressure" was the only Mylo track I ever really loved and even then I got over it by the time it mutated into "Dr. Pressure".
Another reference point might be Rex the Dog who I think structured his tracks in a manner similar to how Aeroplane do now. Compare/contrast "Aeroplane" and "Prototype".
The tendency towards narrative development is what made circa 2004 such a great time for dance mixes of pop songs. Even if you leave Jacques Lu Cont out of the picture you could make such an amazing comp of this stuff:
The Knife - Heart Beats (Rex the Dog Remix)Freeform Five - No More Conversations (Richard X Remix)Royksopp - What Else Is There (Trentemoller Remix)The Chemical Bros - The Golden Path (Ewan Pearson Remix)Kylie Minogue - Slow (The Chemical Bros Remix)
etc.
This is the lineage, as much as Lindstrom and so on, that I think Aeroplane are drawing on.
― Tim F, Monday, 2 February 2009 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Freeform Five - No More Conversations (Richard X Remix)
^^^didnt mylo do a remix of this too?? i think it was him ... i had SOME remix that was really directionless structurally but it worked, like it was just farting around on some cool acid-y bass riff over & over again, but it was the kind of thing you could just sit on for a long time w/out getting boring
― LOOK WHAT I BRING TO THE TABLA (deej), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah that was this
it didnt need 'structure' cuz it was entirely about that mini-structured bass part
― LOOK WHAT I BRING TO THE TABLA (deej), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link
it probably helped that a song already existed for him to have fun with
hey, is that shortwave set remix out on anything? vinyl, specifically.
― resident advice whore (haitch), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link
no.
― mikebee (BATTAGS), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 00:47 (fifteen years ago) link
unfortunately.
The Telegraph's economics editor is repping:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/edmund_conway/blog/2009/02/06/will_this_obscure_belgian_duo_produce_the_album_of_the_year
― Bernard's Butler (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 12 February 2009 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link
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^^^ all officially Balearic now.
― Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Thursday, 12 February 2009 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link
wtf
― Gukbe, Thursday, 12 February 2009 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link
I love how they just stuck 'Emma Thompson' in the middle of all that for no apparent reason.
― Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Thursday, 12 February 2009 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link
lol theres nothing more balearic than rich people
― max, Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link
telegraph has gone to the top of the s.e.o. charts in the UK so they must be doing something right - i assume those keywords are compiled by a word-crunching bot of some kind, maybe using opencalais
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link
http://wa1.images.onesite.com/blogs.telegraph.co.uk/user/edmund_conway/profile.jpg?type=user&ts=0904-0532
would smash
― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link
assuming no fat or anything
― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link
oh look this thread is near "indie-electrodribble"
― Local Garda, Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link
they're friends
― tricky, Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link
i was listening to the "now til 69" remix last night and stirmonster's "horrible digital sheen" comment came to mind. it really was kind of nauseating! it was an mp3, but even on top of that it sounded weirdly compressed and despite listening to the song about 20 times or so in the past i had never noticed the production (probably because i was paying attention to everything else or nothing at all cuz it's so anthemic). the drums have this kind of rushy ableton feel to them.
― tricky, Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha that sounds right actually. The Shortwave Set remix is either astonishing or vaguely repellent depending on one's mood.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link
would smash― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:15 (7 hours ago) Bookmark
― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:15 (7 hours ago) Bookmark
bit of a strange moth in the photo but yes, would still smash.
― jed_, Thursday, 12 February 2009 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link
im late to the party but just want to say im loving these guys, esp whispers which is basically a perfect song
― вaсoи клав о́r сaиdy (rent), Friday, 27 February 2009 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link
"horrible digital sheen"...it really was kind of nauseating!
yeah but like b/c of the structure it feels earned to me, same as when jlc did it well--i feel prepped for it and am ready to open up to the blatant too-much-of-a-muchness & also am ok with flirting with nausea (kind of like an...opiate high? urgh dont mean to bring drugs into this)
― W i l l, Friday, 27 February 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link
it's like an opiate high - on acid!
― ledge, Friday, 27 February 2009 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link
an opiate high on acid wrapped in bacon
i don't mind a bit of gross synthetic-ness, but maybe not for an entire set. i burned out on that shortwave set mix pretty quickly, it sounded great on the RA podcast but it seems a bit redundant on its own. 'paris' and 'williams blood' still stand up though.
― resident advice whore (haitch), Saturday, 28 February 2009 04:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Feel the same way about the Shortwave Set mix actually! But they're worth seeing live (and are not syntheticky throughout - speaking of which they really need to get out that Lindstrom & Solale remix to prove they can work in materials other than plastic and polyester).
― Tim F, Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:29 (fifteen years ago) link
just noticed this at the bottom of the mailer for Fixed party @ Studio B (new york)
Friday May 8th: Fixed w/ Aeroplane & JG Wilkes (Optimo)
― dmr, Friday, 6 March 2009 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link
oh raaad
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 6 March 2009 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link