Eryn Woods is the woman in the picture: http://www.erynwoodsmusic.com/fr_home.cfm
― cr4bdbgs, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
good piece. articles that refer to ILM and extensively quote the thread about the subject at hand really rub me the wrong way, though.
― some dude, Thursday, 13 September 2012 04:14 (eleven years ago) link
"In an ILM thread, some dude complained about the increasing self-referentiality of the music discussion world, leading to a parodic response about his post which took note of that self-referentiality. It was not excelsiored."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 September 2012 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
hahahahaha ned
― some dude, Thursday, 13 September 2012 04:35 (eleven years ago) link
I agree about quoting ILM, but it seemed really disingenuous not to at least link to it. It's like Oscar Wilde said, the only thing worse than referring to ILM is not referring to ILM.
― cr4bdbgs, Thursday, 13 September 2012 07:42 (eleven years ago) link
LOL ned
― the late great, Thursday, 13 September 2012 08:08 (eleven years ago) link
that was awesome
Saw this yesterday. It's absolutely incredible. Step aside Rebecca Black.
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Thursday, 13 September 2012 11:10 (eleven years ago) link
Makes me think of Black Dice remixing Armand Van Helden in some dystopian parallel version of the nineties where nothing works properly and physical forces are preordained to make everything go wrong - like if you make a cup of tea 9 times out of ten you'll spill it all over yourself, and merely the act of walking from one end of the room to the other involves a high degree of calculated risk because the floor, rather than being flat and solid, kind of juts out and moves around at random. I watched three videos just gaping and scratching my head but credit to her - I hate watching YouTubes generally.
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Thursday, 13 September 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link
Step aside Rebecca Black.
what is the connection to rebecca black?
― v for viennetta (c sharp major), Thursday, 13 September 2012 11:30 (eleven years ago) link
really? you don't see any parallel between the two at all?
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Thursday, 13 September 2012 11:47 (eleven years ago) link
i don't see a parallel
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 September 2012 11:50 (eleven years ago) link
they are both pretty?
― v for viennetta (c sharp major), Thursday, 13 September 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
amateur singer with autotune fetish blows up all over the internet largely thanks to ostensible terribleness but comes to be reassessed by the musical cognoscenti over time.
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Thursday, 13 September 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
they are both female!
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 September 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link
people on the internet have different opinions about the quality of their output?
― v for viennetta (c sharp major), Thursday, 13 September 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link
"blows up all over the internet largely thanks to ostensible terribleness but comes to be reassessed by the musical cognoscenti over time."
um this is like 50% of the internet
― v for viennetta (c sharp major), Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
are you guys being stupid on purpose or are you actually stupid?
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
one young unknown woman had a song written for her and a video filmed, as a present from her parents, which then became an internet hit because of the way it was pop-but-not-quite-pop, and then the internet started liking it for the ways in which it fails as pop and the ways in which also it succeeds as pop (eg earworminess)
one young reality-tv-famous woman made a "soundtrack" for her autobiography and bundled it with copies of the book, to mass bafflement, because it's a really ugly record, and now about a dozen people on the internet are saying 'the way in which this is ugly is super effective and tbh if this was labelled as avant garde it would get a lot of kudos'
― v for viennetta (c sharp major), Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:05 (eleven years ago) link
the farrah abraham record has not blown up all over the internet
the 'musical cognoscenti', as far as i am aware, have not 'reassessed' rebecca black's friday
― v for viennetta (c sharp major), Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link
what is the connection you are making between these records other than "they are unconventional releases which people on the internet have argued about"
― v for viennetta (c sharp major), Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
Makes me think of Black Dice remixing Armand Van Helden in some dystopian parallel version of the nineties where nothing works properly and physical forces are preordained to make everything go wrong - like if you make a cup of tea 9 times out of ten you'll spill it all over yourself, and merely the act of walking from one end of the room to the other involves a high degree of calculated risk because the floor, rather than being flat and solid, kind of juts out and moves around at random.
i like this description though!
"where nothing works properly and physical forces are preordained to make everything go wrong" <-- i feel this v strongly
― v for viennetta (c sharp major), Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link
people were attracted to both because they're both, by most standards, 'terrible, ugly records' with amateurish production values and a sloppiness that leads one to question the very inception of said music. and yet both have their boosters who claim that this all belies some deeper more intrinsic appeal and who would genuinely defend the record. okay they didn't spring from entirely the same font, but if you can't see the parallels beyond "they are both pretty and female", well i'd say you're being deliberately obtuse.
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
Or more succinctly, both count as recent examples of 'outsider pop' (with the emphasis on pop). Interestingly they approach it from two different walks of life - one the disenfranchised young mum producing the work pretty mubytes rough her own wherewithall, the other a rich schoolgirl whose own parents paid to have their daughter make the video.
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link
As for 'blowing up', I'm not sure if this'll have the same popularity and impact as 'Friday' but I hear about it through an online news story linked through fb so someone must be talking about it. Fwiw I'm Britishers and don't subscribe to MTV so to me this is completely new.
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link
iPhone interfering with those posts sorry
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link
dog latin isn't making his case really well but 'unselfconscious white girls abusing autotune with surreal results' is specific enough to at least warrant some mention of RB, even if beyond that things are pretty different
― some dude, Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:51 (eleven years ago) link
this is a good listen ! the sunshine state is particularly incredible
― ogmor, Thursday, 13 September 2012 13:20 (eleven years ago) link
It appeals to me.
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Thursday, 13 September 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
in a slight quirk of circumstance, I recently asked in the opening question of this thread: 'Deconstructionist' Music whether there were any examples of the aesthetic applied to pop. Farrah seems to have unintentionally answered this to some extent.
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Thursday, 13 September 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
This rules.
― save the game like a memory card (cajunsunday), Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
connection drawn between RB and FA makes sense to me. they're both young women who came to pop through nonstandard channels, making vanity press music that resembles what you hear on hits radio, but which doesn't quite succeed by chartpop's conventional standards. the fact that there's something "off" about their music is a big part of the story and appeal in each case, though the two are obviously quite different in other respects. for obvious starters, FA's music and lyrics are much, much weirder.
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
Listen to "On My Own" again and tell me that synth line wouldn't sound right at home on The Richard D. James Album.
OTM Mr Snurb.
I can't wait to find out what the deal with the music is. if she made it, who else did it if not etc.
― save the game like a memory card (cajunsunday), Thursday, 13 September 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
ok there is some serious hyperbole in this thread but this is a pretty odd album
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 13 September 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
the detail that she made this not as an album-album but a listen-along sdtrk for her book is the most beguiling little thing
― goole, Thursday, 13 September 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
"After Prom" is the track that really made me go "lol this is Crystal Castles, right"
I think every touring musician on this thread should use selections from this as pre-set PA music
― wtf where's my chapbook (DJP), Monday, 17 September 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
tempted
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 17 September 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
Lex in FACT: http://www.factmag.com/2012/09/27/my-teenage-dream-ended/
More editor meddling. Still can't find anything about production credits, thinking about trying to just get an interview myself.
― cr4bdbgs, Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link
Do it!
I am a latecomer to this thread but I have become obsessed with this album.
― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
tempted by the fruit of teen mother
― a shark with a rippling six pack (Phil D.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
if she made it
no way she produced it. it's unmistakably some hired gun shit and yet the production reminds me of youtube tutorial videos for massive. like, there's a level of detail in the production (the filter sweeps, effects, etc) that's so at odds with the randomness of the vocals that i would be shocked if she said she did it herself. but then the dubstep wobble shit sounds really weak and amateurish, it makes me picture a middle-aged engineer at a start-up studio getting the gig and being told "here, just make a bunch of tracks for her to sing over and do what you can, btw we need it by tuesday."
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 27 September 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
She's in college now, wouldn't be surprised to learn that this was some collaboration with an undergrad amateur producer in one of her classes or something. A lot of my students make music that sounds like the backing tracks. Or they could be demos from a D-list professional producer. But it still doesn't explain how they chose to match the vocals with the music.
― cr4bdbgs, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
That FACT review is the first review I've read that actually takes this album seriously. good jub Lex
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
Job even
thx
a few things that are striking me now - this shit is abrasive and alienating, yeah, but it's also weirdly listenable. i'm still coming back to it of my own volition and finding it enjoyable and genuinely moving. it's actually got to the "sing along, dance around a bit" stage with a couple of the songs.
i came dressed up on the WAY! DOWN!enjoy the moments while i'm IN! THEM!
― lex pretend, Friday, 28 September 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link
nice, lex. really nice. she is really bringing out the best in everyone!
― scott seward, Friday, 28 September 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
the guardian on her dick now too! :D http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/sep/28/farrah-abraham-teenage-dream-ended?CMP=twt_gu
― lex pretend, Friday, 28 September 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
someone really should hook her up with Crystal Castles
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 28 September 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
i noticed this on twitter:
Farrah Abraham @F1abrahamSubscribe now www.YouTube.com/PAFarrahAbraham for New Videos Weekly!! MY TEENAGE DREAM ENDED with the exclusive soundtrack only at iBookstore bit.ly/RhwunUMiami, FL ยท http://www.Farrahabraham.meFollowed by Barack Obama.
Followed by Barack Obama.
― Right or wrong, It's the truth! (Merdeyeux), Friday, 28 September 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
hahahahaha amazing
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 28 September 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link