official i love music thread for AEROPLANE

it was never better back when...

just different.

the future has yet to disappoint.

I wouldn't normally trot out that argument, and obv there's a diff since I liked the "before" stuff. But that said in this case what Aeroplane reminds me of does feel very recent. Plus this does feel v similar to me to the 2004/2005 stuff. This wouldn't surprise or bother me in the slightest except these guys are huge.

I guess also as I said, the lifecycle of electrohouse/electroclash/indiedance since 2004/2005 is pretty grim to me, once there was no trace of house/techno left it all became hugely popular.

i like everything i've heard by them and i'm definitely a casual dance fan, so i don't really care what originality they're bringing to the table or where they stand in the narrative of dance music (i still don't really know what balearic is, you guys).

but to my ears they have a really good sense for hooks and for structure, and they're a lot warmer and more live-sounding than most of the dance music i happen on.

wouldn't surprise or bother me in the slightest except these guys are huge

maybe there's a US/Europe split on this thread then because I feel like they're barely known over here and maybe that changes the perception. I mean yeah if they played New York there'd be some buzz but not OMG HYPE

xp

I dunno, it feels to me like this is exactly the right time for something like Aeroplane to appear, because it's been a really lean few years for maximalist melodic dance music. I've been saying for a while that it's good to have something again that feels big without being lairy, maybe that quality was what was lost around 2005 when electrohouse faded and noisy Erolclash took over (or minimal, if you're looking the other way, but I'm trying to keep minimal out of this debate).

The Tellier remix was the first one when I thought Aeroplane were drifting too close to electrohouse - if anything I want dancefloor-friendly new Balearic to resemble 2002-era Take Me With You house. Aeroplane's best stuff does that, they have a real feel for a hook - speaking as someone who prefers the Das Pop/Cobra Dukes/Caramellas end of their sound to the Grace Jones/Tellier end.

(xpost - is the hype really happening anywhere outside ILM?)

ha, i was gunna say the same thing, cuz they are by no means HUGE in the US. i don't even think they've done a single set here

(I think a parallel shift might be happening with funky, steps back to pop after a few years of moody or aggro post-garage sounds).

is this aeroplane backlash about aeroplane specifically, or nu-balearica/cosmic disco whatnot generally? b/c it doesn't make sense to me if it's the former. i don't feel aeroplane's aesthetic is noticeably different to any other nu-balearic act, or even lindstrom in non-conceptual mode, it's just that they're slightly poppier and have more regular output. their position vis-a-vis that scene is a bit like jacques lu cont vis-a-vis electrohouse.

oh what's the point :)

Haha I was about to say I want to try and avoid getting into rigid aesthetic lines because it's going to be a bit like looking into a mirror and saying 'Pipecock' three times.

is the hype really happening anywhere outside ILM?

yes, definitely. it's building, building, building. they will be huge by the summer. i have the demos for the album and while it isn't my thing it is easy to hear that it will sell vast amounts.

or at least be a hot torrent!

it will prompt unprecedented facebook status updates

i will live tweet it

YSI

they could do with having more aeroplane sounds on their records, to be honest. or vacuum cleansers that sound like jets.

it works really well outside of the club setting, which is why i never expect to hear it in a club in glasgow unless it's an aeroplane gig. though if someone wants to point me in that direction...

also, i think the beach boys mix is perfectly matched up to the corny nostalgia of the original.

xpost. I reckon there's a good chance that you would be able to hear this in a club in Glasgow, though I couldn't name any names.

i like everything i've heard by them and i'm definitely a casual dance fan, so i don't really care what originality they're bringing to the table or where they stand in the narrative of dance music (i still don't really know what balearic is, you guys).

but to my ears they have a really good sense for hooks and for structure, and they're a lot warmer and more live-sounding than most of the dance music i happen on.

― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, January 26, 2009 5:45 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

generally speaking i wouldnt quote jordan here bcuz on dance music hes obv coming at it from this kinda outsider-y "these drums dont sound live enough" re: classic house jazz/rockism which i like to rib him about, but the important part i bolded above is where i think hes totally right -- these guys understand structures & how to build & release which was something that mylo was always terrible at imo -- like he had a great idea/concept but had no clue how to execute or something

Deej does that apply to "Drop The Pressure" even?

I think Aeroplane have less of a connection to house music than Mylo and pretty much no connection at all to techno. Even at their most up there's barely a decent kick drum in sight. I'm sort of expecting the album to occupy a space somewhere between Lindstrom, Air and some early 00s shiny disco pop I can't quite put my finger on.

Deej does that apply to "Drop The Pressure" even?

― Tim F, Monday, February 2, 2009 3:39 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is probably an exception - i should have mentioned it -- but even their best vibes like "in my arms" its sorta like "whoa, awesome vibe" for a couple minutes & then yr like "wait was this going anywhere"

his best vibes i mean

"whoa, awesome vibe" for a couple minutes & then yr like "wait was this going anywhere"

hey there crookers

yah imo another example of no sense of structure -- something aeroplane does a great job with

Yeah I get yr point. "Drop The Pressure" was the only Mylo track I ever really loved and even then I got over it by the time it mutated into "Dr. Pressure".

Another reference point might be Rex the Dog who I think structured his tracks in a manner similar to how Aeroplane do now. Compare/contrast "Aeroplane" and "Prototype".

The tendency towards narrative development is what made circa 2004 such a great time for dance mixes of pop songs. Even if you leave Jacques Lu Cont out of the picture you could make such an amazing comp of this stuff:

The Knife - Heart Beats (Rex the Dog Remix)
Freeform Five - No More Conversations (Richard X Remix)
Royksopp - What Else Is There (Trentemoller Remix)
The Chemical Bros - The Golden Path (Ewan Pearson Remix)
Kylie Minogue - Slow (The Chemical Bros Remix)

etc.

This is the lineage, as much as Lindstrom and so on, that I think Aeroplane are drawing on.

Freeform Five - No More Conversations (Richard X Remix)

^^^didnt mylo do a remix of this too?? i think it was him ... i had SOME remix that was really directionless structurally but it worked, like it was just farting around on some cool acid-y bass riff over & over again, but it was the kind of thing you could just sit on for a long time w/out getting boring

yeah that was this

it didnt need 'structure' cuz it was entirely about that mini-structured bass part

it probably helped that a song already existed for him to have fun with

hey, is that shortwave set remix out on anything? vinyl, specifically.

no.

unfortunately.

The Telegraph's economics editor is repping:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/edmund_conway/blog/2009/02/06/will_this_obscure_belgian_duo_produce_the_album_of_the_year

"I BLOG ABOUT
bail-out bailout bankers Ben Bernanke credit crisis credit crunch Currencies David Blanchflower Davos Davos 2008 deficit dow Economics Emma Thompson EMU European Central Bank Federal Reserve financial crisis Financial stability G7 Gini coefficient Gordon Brown graphic Great depression Income Tax national statistics Northern Rock ONS overtake paulson PbR Pervez Musharraf printing money producer prices remuneration Rescue Plan retail sales S&P single currency Sir John Gieve slump Sub Prime ted VAT wages wealth divide World Economic Forum Wu Jianmin zero interest rates"

^^^ all officially Balearic now.

wtf

I love how they just stuck 'Emma Thompson' in the middle of all that for no apparent reason.

lol theres nothing more balearic than rich people

telegraph has gone to the top of the s.e.o. charts in the UK so they must be doing something right - i assume those keywords are compiled by a word-crunching bot of some kind, maybe using opencalais

http://wa1.images.onesite.com/blogs.telegraph.co.uk/user/edmund_conway/profile.jpg?type=user&ts=0904-0532

would smash

assuming no fat or anything

oh look this thread is near "indie-electrodribble"

they're friends

i was listening to the "now til 69" remix last night and stirmonster's "horrible digital sheen" comment came to mind. it really was kind of nauseating! it was an mp3, but even on top of that it sounded weirdly compressed and despite listening to the song about 20 times or so in the past i had never noticed the production (probably because i was paying attention to everything else or nothing at all cuz it's so anthemic). the drums have this kind of rushy ableton feel to them.

Ha that sounds right actually. The Shortwave Set remix is either astonishing or vaguely repellent depending on one's mood.

would smash

― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:15 (7 hours ago) Bookmark

bit of a strange moth in the photo but yes, would still smash.

im late to the party but just want to say im loving these guys, esp whispers which is basically a perfect song

"horrible digital sheen"...it really was kind of nauseating!

yeah but like b/c of the structure it feels earned to me, same as when jlc did it well--i feel prepped for it and am ready to open up to the blatant too-much-of-a-muchness & also am ok with flirting with nausea (kind of like an...opiate high? urgh dont mean to bring drugs into this)

it's like an opiate high - on acid!

an opiate high on acid wrapped in bacon

i don't mind a bit of gross synthetic-ness, but maybe not for an entire set. i burned out on that shortwave set mix pretty quickly, it sounded great on the RA podcast but it seems a bit redundant on its own. 'paris' and 'williams blood' still stand up though.