'Children of Men', the new Alfonso Cuaron sci-fi flick

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Better than Hostel though.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

what game Alex was playing

grid wars 2

http://www.universo-nintendo.com/files/Imagenes/Grid_Wars2.jpg

― max (maxreax), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Preferring anything in French to anything with Bruce Willis = pretentious to the incisive barometer of fluxhead (Willis was good too).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah Willis isn't my problem with 12 Monkeys. It's EVERYONE else!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Well not everyone. Christopher Plummer and David Morse are good.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

the tone that persists for the first few scenes after that first explosion really impressed me. i almost wish julianne moore didn't bring it up.

Ha: so if you do a spectral analysis of the rest of the film, you think that one frequency will be stripped out?

The game being played was giving me hardcore flashbacks to playing Hyperframe. (Which, incidentally, rules.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha: so if you do a spectral analysis of the rest of the film, you think that one frequency will be stripped out?

that would be pretty awesome.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i was thinking "Intelligent Qube"

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Also Dan, re: Julianne Moore as immigrant/refugee -- I actually didn't notice that many Germans getting packed off, I guess, and certainly no Americans, and she was married to an Englishman at one point, immigration-wise, and was an activist long before any of this got started, etc.: I guess I'm just saying it was another of those things that's not absolutely spelled out and pinned down. (There's a nice complicated mix on both sides, with both foreign and apparently native Fish, and a couple refugees who seem as British as anyone, which does a good job of suggesting some massive, realistic complex of deportation laws/programs.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I was wondering why they are called the Fish. it made me think of the early Christian fish symbol but other than that I wasn't sure.

― dmr (Renard), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

the native Fish are called "Carp" or something possibly more clever than that

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

cod

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I interpreted the first (only? the others were Rom, I thought) woman as Jewish rather than German.

xp - I loved the Cod/'English Fish' line.

― milo z (mlp), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

There were at least two immigrants who spoke German in the movie; the first was the woman in the cage complaining about being locked up with big black men (me in theatre: "Oh no she didn't!" everyone else: "Que????") and the person (can't remember if it was a man or woman now) who was complaining about being hungry, I think on the bus into hell...? I can't remember precisely where that happened but I definitely remember that Germans were not at all on the "cool" list.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Schwartze = Philip Roth to me, for the first woman.

― milo z (mlp), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I got the gist from her gestures and "schwarze" (same in German and Yiddish, yes?).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

La Jetee isn't pretentious - it's only half an hour long!

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah they are similar. It sounded like full-blown German to me, esp. when she said (paraphrase) "Ich verstehe es gar nichts!" = "I don't understand this at all!"

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree with you, re: Brazil. Like CoM, Brazil is/was set in an exaggerated version of the present, enabling the film to function as fairly direct sociopolitical commentary. I think this is much less true of Blade Runner, but again, that's all kinda OT here.

There's a very good thread here (that I can't find at the moment) that gets into the 1982 sociology of Blade Runner (urban anxiety, white flight, fear of Asian economic immigration)

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

La Jetee isn't pretentious - it's only half an hour long!

Right, right, duration and pretense being inextricably tied and all.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Now I have a DVD rip of this thanks to my t0rrentzzz loving brother: really psyched to be able to freeze it and just study some of the details.

In another day or so I might check this out http://www.thehumanprojectlives.org/indexnew.php

But... I usually hate things like it. With the exception of those 'Lost' videos and a few peeks at the message boards for the Wire I think I've never participated in such folly.

Ohhhhh man they want me to redeem "credits" for like a photo of myself and a ticket stub? Sorry.

― Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Saturday, 13 January 2007 06:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Out on DVD Monday!

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 13 January 2007 10:11 (seventeen years ago) link

in the uk...

― Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Saturday, 13 January 2007 11:17 (seventeen years ago) link

In some ways it seemed like a short film, I guess because of the simplicity of the premise and the abrupt ending (but obv. it was not that short and really well-done).

--couple of good joeks in unexpected places

--vibe and look kinda reminded me of 28 Days Later

--great kitten

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 13 January 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The DVD packaging/sleeve/extras are rubbish.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link

If loving La Jetee more than 12 Monkeys (a very good movie) is wrong, then...

No, fuck that, loving La Jetee over 12 Monkeys isn't wrong at all.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

that wasn't the issue

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i like both.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Then I misunderstood. I thought someone was hating on La Jetee (i.e. the most defensible film ever).

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

no, morbs was hating on 12 monkeys

la jetee and 12 monkeys are not mutually exclusive, indeed it is possible to enjoy both films

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Sure, but it's also possible to think while watching 12 Monkeys, "this is cool and all, but La Jetee was so much ... nicer." It's not necessarily a pretentious response.

Or maybe I'm just saying that 'cuz I'm pretentious and I felt the same way about it.

― Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I could watch La Jetee over and over, like I can 12 Monkeys.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

"As I chewed thoughtfully on a juicy, char-grilled ribeye steak, I couldn't help but think that magret du canard is just so much NICER."

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait you watch 12 Monkeys over and over?

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Not in a row, no.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

in my mind

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't watch anything over and over.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Who is Margaret Du Canard, and why does she taste so damn good?

― Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

la jetee is an art film, with stills, narration

12 monkeys is a movie with dialogue, acting, a wonderful score

one created the idea, the other expounded on it--it's the concept of both films i love, i don't get caught up in willis, pitt, etc, and i certainly don't sit around wishing i was watching the other when watching one of them

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

One summer I rented a room in Newport, Rhode Island, from this dude who watched Raging Bull at some time between 7 and 10am EVERY MORNING on his TV. He had a photo of Jake LaMotta framed on his wall. One time he was wrapping presents for his son, and he asked me to wrap them for him, because he didn't know how to do it. I moved out after my friend, who was also renting that room with me, told me he spent an entire night convincing him not to kill himself. Good times!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

reading over this thread has made me love this movie even more! yes, the long shots! the kittenz! the spiritual refs, the feet, possibility of other mothers and babies, etc etc.

i didn't feel initial elation/flood-of-emotions when the end title came up though, but my kind of neutral-due-to-being-shattered-by-film reaction was as honest as they come. and like most great films, it becomes better through how it leaves you and how you think about it later

--vibe and look kinda reminded me of 28 Days Later
oh totally - all the greys and blues and misty damp. the brits are great at teh dystopia. and this really was a zombie movie in many ways.

must see again.

uh, xpost x a million
i like 12 monkeys. a lot. la jetee is a moving art film that i also like. aliens is also rad.

― rrrobyn, breeze blown meadow of cheeriness (rrrobyn), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

T/S: loving both La Jetee and 12 Monkeys vs. choosing one over the other

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

good luck with that

― tony conrad schnitzler (sanskrit), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

"Baby Diego's a wanker."

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i loved the baby diego stuff so much

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i really loved this. it was a good audience experience, as well. the collective tension was palpable - sounds of general snuffling/teariness; the woman across the aisle from me was biting her knuckle through most of it, and the guy behind me was holding his breath for lengthy periods of time only to expel it in a huge groan whenever someone had momentarily escaped doom. i should have been annoyed by that, but i actually found it quite sweet.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 15 January 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

guy in our aisle anytime anything happened (slow exhale): "fuuuuuuuuuuuuuccck."

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 15 January 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i loved this but my audience was TERRIBLE - laughing at any halfway funny or surprising line, APPLAUDING when anything bad happens to anybody in the second half like its some fuckin die hard type action/revenge flick, and one frat-lookin dude started laughing really hard during the long awful shot of clive owen in the building, when dude was running up the stairs, and when his girlfriend gave him a wtf look he said as explanation 'there was chickens'

― and what (ooo), Monday, 15 January 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

meanwhile i got really immersed & if i hadnt been with a friend wouldve probably embarrassed myself even more by full-body wincing at essentially every scene after the car ambush

― and what (ooo), Monday, 15 January 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

frat-lookin dude OTM

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 15 January 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

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