― something less threatening (heywood), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:43 (seventeen years ago) link
I assume each and every one of these people must've given their consent to appear in the film, right? How on earth did they agree to that? Did the producers make them sign some agreement beforehand?
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link
i thought it was interesting that he treats all women like prostitutes except for the hooker who he gets all sweet and romantic on.
you can sign release after the event.
― beeble (beeble), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― 31g (31g), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:22 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.slate.com/id/2151865/
― 31g (31g), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:24 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15175836/site/newsweek/page/2/
― 31g (31g), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:28 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah, but he really doesn't try to fish out the racism in people like he does with antisemitism. He never asks the southerners about black people (not even in the civil war antique store), and when the frat boys talk about "minorities running this country", he stays uncharacteristically silent. I mean, if he really wanted to expose American bigotry, you'd think racism was a more obvious target than antisemitism?
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 10:13 (seventeen years ago) link
It did concern me that there were a lot of kids (10-15 yrs) at the screening I was at. Not necessarily because of the nudity or racy-ness of it all, but because of a feeling that they were misinterpretting .
I thought that the film was about backwardness (ie. apart from it being something to laugh at). Backwardness of some Central Asians, and of some Americans. The director could have found such backwardness in almost any country, but it does seem to have more of a point being filmed in the country which is the "leader of the free world". The backwardness in the USandA is less forgiveable then that of central Asia or eastern Europe.
I presume that a better (funnier?) Borat film will never be seen as I assume that many great scenes were probably excluded because of legal concerns.
― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
This is the same as Mark Kermode's. I never trust him when it comes to comedies.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link
Hopefully, y'all understand that I'm not saying that this is my formula for a GREAT comedy. Its just that I've seen so many so-called comedies where a smile wasn't even cracked, so 4 oud-loud laughs is pretty good. Borat... had much more than 4.
― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link
I though Sacha was married to a nice Jewish girl, kinda disappointed to hear he's engaged to an actress (from Wedding Crashers!) now.
― Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link
the gypsy bit was weirdly hilarious, and very clever, the way he acts like you have to be authoritative but also cautious with gypsies, like "I am going to look through your treasures, gypsy. IS THIS OK?"
I have to say while I can see the point of the film exposing backward views or whatever, a lot of the impact seems to be in the fact that it makes racist or anti-semitic jokes, these jokes are powerful because they are seldom allowed to be made.
Once the setting has been made "ok" for people, then you get this raucous outpouring of laughter. Some of the "FUNNIEST MOVIE EVER" type reviews kind of make me feel this a bit more intensely, like people are laughing with the relief of being able to laugh at stuff that would normally be taboo.
I suppose you hope people think about how anti-semitic, sexist etc Borat is, I mean he's obviously a cartoon character, but I'm not sure that people ponder the fact that they just laughed at anti-semitism, maybe it doesn't matter.
I guess Borat brings out the worst in some of the Americans he speaks to, but then perhaps the film also exposes European attitudes towards Eastern Europeans...
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link
Borat (about black servant): "Is he your slave?"
Country Club Guy: "Oh no, we don't have slaves in America now. A law was passed years ago that we cannot use them for slavery. . . . which is good for them."
Borat: "Ah yes, but not so good for YOU!"
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link
this is pretty otm, especially for the showing i saw (semi-rural, reddest state ever)
― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link
I haven't read a less than four-star review of it yet. And the majority were fives. -- chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (joe.goode...)
Just so yr not missing this:
http://www.nypress.com/19/44/film/ArmondWhite.cfm
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link
Mahir is suing.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chesty Joe Morgan (Chesty Joe Morgan), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Adrienne Begley (sparklecock), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:51 (seventeen years ago) link
Maybe this is because HE IS JEWISH.
― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link
jesus christ save us from this moronic bullshit
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link
i shall lead the way
http://scoopsnoodle.com/lix/yay.gifhttp://scoopsnoodle.com/lix/yay.gifhttp://scoopsnoodle.com/lix/yay.gif
― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link
I mean, c'mon!!....Its intent was to be funny AND IT WAS! How many "comedies" achieve that???
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link
http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,,1931712,00.html
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― diebold with a vengeance (nickalicious), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― beeble (beeble), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link
The Jewish b&b=staged, no?
― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't feel very troubled by most of the things that people find 'offensive', but maybe I would if I was in a minority that was mocked; maybe I even should on their behalf. What I don't like is what this shares with most comedy nowadays: a quick recourse to sexuality, obscenity and scatology in place of wit. First lines of the film: 'Hello - I Borat - I like sex! Is nice!'. Would he say that? Isn't the point, the interesting aspect of this character here, his innocence, his attempt to well-meaning to a foreign audience ...? etc. SBCohen, like many others (Gervais among them), reaches for smut like a nervous tic, when he can't do any better; and he thus brings his talent down into the general mediocre ruck of bad filthy comedy.
― the pinefox (the pinefox), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link
also stfu
― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_179/howiwasduped.html
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link