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Carl "Indie" Craig

One of the more obscure pseudonyms.

anybody listen to the Vladislav Delay/AGF mix of Nicki Minaj verses?

yeah, but that had nothing to do with fact

i read about it in fact

i read about it, in fact.

rattling on about canonical electronic acts being "indie" seems like a pretty "indie" thing to do tbh

No one's actually doing that though.

carl craig is in the thread. please stop saying indie.

Obv 69 is one of the best things on the list. There are a lot of good things on the list!

i don't cosign v much of the list fwiw

Well duh

though i'm not sure if i managed to finish clicking through tbh

I would have been curious to see a list that was a closer reflection of a nineties version of their current aesthetic, though I guess they think indie rock, golden age rap, "intelligent" jungle and aphex twin are exactly that. Maybe they are.

it probably is, particularly albums-wise

they should have let lex vote. His reviews have really been getting the readership riled up over there

obv i am v aware of this now but i was genuinely surprised at first - i don't have the patience to think of the "ew! minaj/bieber/cheryl cole pop cooties" brigade with anything other than contempt though

it's 2012 did we not HAVE THESE ARGUMENTS ALREADY

also british dance music sux right now, apart from like ikonika

Royal-t et al?

It's not "indie" per se but if you factor out Belle & Sebastian and Pulp you can smell the fucking weed coming off this list from a mile. Virtually everything here his the stoner-friendly facet of its genre.

I mean that's fine in its way because weed was pretty significant in 90s music but its very much presenting only one side of the decade.

That seems thoroughly otm.

so many of my points of aesthetic alienation from other people in music become clear when weed is brought up

royal-t, yeah, though to an extent i'm only interested in the garage/post-funky lot when they're making tropicalesque stuff or remixing pop (why are funkystepz and ill blu permitted to release instrumentals again?)

haha the opposite of the fact vibe basically.

well as far as you can get while talking about a lot of the same artists.

i know right!

i was REALLY surprised that my piece on garage pop remixes got such a negative reaction. like wtf is wrong with those people

(nb everyone at fact itself loved those trax)

also british dance music sux right now, apart from like ikonika

― lex pretend, Saturday, 8 September 2012 10:33 (3 hours ago) Bookmark

if you stfu with this ignorant codswallop i promise not to ever invoice you for that garage bit

haha this thread is approx 7.3x worse than the fact list

you know, just speaking as a fan of dance and rap, i think that list is pretty good, quibbles about ordering aside. i don't know 90% of the rock on it, though.

pretty awesome they included e-dancer though i'd have put it higher than 69

The big issue from the dance side is that they (I assume) ruled out DJ mixes and the like, e.g. the choices of d&b albums seemed astonishingly one-sided to me but then once you're restricting yourself to "proper" artist albums 1995 - 1999 it becomes harder to avoid that I guess.

i can see that as a reasonable editorial decision though

it'll be interesting to see how 00s album lists deal w/ the issue of podcasts

probably just exclude those too, right?

which DJ mixes would you have included, tim?

i'd have probably put on dave clarke's electro x-mix but i'm not sure what else

i can see that as a reasonable editorial decision though

― the late great, Tuesday, September 11, 2012 6:53 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, but it has consequences when a lot of the list is about dance music.

Not that they would have had a hope in this poll but my 90s DJ mix selections would be:

Lil Louis Vega - United DJs of America, Vol. 2: New York City
Kenny Ken - A History of Hardcore
Grooverider - Hardstep Selection II
Slipmatt - Slipmatt Takes Control
Robbie Hardkiss - Mixed Messages
Carl Craig - DJ Kicks
The Dreem Teem - In Session II
Derrick May - The MayDay Mix
DJ Rolando - The Aztec Mystic Mix

Thinking about it, comps possibly more crucial to the story of jungle than mixes.

Carl Craig - DJ Kicks

^^ excellent suggestion

i would add nicolette's dj kicks to the list, that is a monster

how about

v/a - TORQUE
v/a - TECHSTEPPIN

massive omissions imo

and the jungle mix category is full of "bangers"

dj db - history of hardcore, history of hardcore 2, history of our world 1, history of our world 2, breakbeat odyssey, drum and bass selection usa

dj hype - drum and bass selection 3, drum and bass selection 4

smith & mighty - dj kicks

dj db - history of our world 2

DING. DING DING DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNAH

I'd add Bukem's 'Mixmag Live' to any 90's comp best of list.

oh fuck yeah, that with his grinning mug above the clouds is BRILLIANCE

marc i actually prefer the "history of hardcore" ones

Oh yeah, and I'd include Hawtin's mix in the same series. Basically a time when dj mixes had some personality and took a few risks.

when men were men, and women were women

you could flange a ball down the street

If a dj played something, it stayed played!

when men were men, and women were men too.

rip hunta d

Lol.

http://www.factmag.com/2012/10/01/fact-mix-349-silent-servant/

listened to this a few times now, proper mint!