FACT Mixes. Your comments here...

I was just trying to phrase it in a way that didn't sound dickish, as that wasn't my intention. I've heard the phrase "pretending to like" in relation to music before, and I've always wondered what makes someone say that.

WE DON'T NEED TO DO THIS.

My reading process : Shrug at rap albums, roll eyes at indie albums, kind of agree with dance albums, get to #1. Mutter "it could be worse".

Would probably swapped in UGK's Riding Dirty for Belle or Sebastian if I had any say in the list.

I'd have swapped Drexciya with Moseley Shoals just for a laugh.

So the only way to view this is to open all 100 slow-loading pages? Or is the list actually just on one page somewhere?

they should have let lex vote. His reviews have really been getting the readership riled up over there

FACT's entire aesthetic has become so dispiritingly blokey, murky and Big Serious Face. Many of the records in that list are great but where's the femininity, the pop sensibility, the levity?

Also you get the feeling that while some of the writers weren't actively pretending to like anything, they were probably mentally crossing Chemical Brothers or Underworld albums off their list for fear of looking corny.

Anyone notice how similar the new layout is to Pitchfork's?

So the only way to view this is to open all 100 slow-loading pages? Or is the list actually just on one page somewhere?

― Position Position, Friday, September 7, 2012 4:25 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't like this clickbait any more than you do but tbf it went between pages superfast for me

if you use the arrow keys it does

oh god this list is the worst thing

I mean, it's all albums I'd probably like, but calling this the 100 best of a decade is the most po-faced endeavor

I was gonna say, this loads light years faster than their old site.

I think a list like this might have a bigger impact on a younger music fan, lot of great music on here mixed in with the arbitrary contrary picks.

I think there's a few interesting choices in there: Icons, DJ Krust, Studio 1, Archers of Loaf etc. And no complaints about the #1 But really, we need another of these top-100 lists like a hole in the head.

it's a navigational mess but the overall look has potential. i dare say it will be okY once they refine it. THE FACE (pastiche?) logo is good imo. fk that top 100 going through each album one at a time though. that's exactly NOT how to make people look at your site. even doing a 100 list in blocks of ten is pushing it.

the cold fucking nerve to align themselves with the face, honestly

Catastrophic kerning on the pseudo-FACE logo sets my teeth on edge.

the cold fucking nerve to align themselves with the face, honestly

― r|t|c, Friday, September 7, 2012 10:47 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what's the Face?

peerless, pivotal uk style mag.

This list is hella indie isn't it. Even the dance music choices.

Is a Carl Craig obsession that indie? i bet a singles list would be better though

(knew what the Face was btw)

i would have gone with scion's 'arrange and process basic channel' ahead of the comp they picked. saw II better than 85-92 too obv.

xpost No obv stuff like 69 and E-Dancer isn't "indie" really - I just mean the general slant with all the 90s ambient/IDM, the drum and bass albums chosen, the absence of any house music as far I can remember (let alone, like, populist dance). It's more glaring when it's interwoven with lots of indie rock.

Kudos to FACT for including Carlton though.

The absence of any popular rap other than Wu Tang Clan, one Nas album, one Jay-Z album. No Biggie, no Pac.

yeah but they had Westside Connection...

Is a Carl Craig obsession that indie?

that's like saying kraftwerk or daft punk obsession is indie

ok wait scratch the 2nd

CC happens to rule. please do not use his name with word indie in it again.

i like Carl Craig

Carl "Indie" Craig

One of the more obscure pseudonyms.

anybody listen to the Vladislav Delay/AGF mix of Nicki Minaj verses?

yeah, but that had nothing to do with fact

i read about it in fact

i read about it, in fact.

rattling on about canonical electronic acts being "indie" seems like a pretty "indie" thing to do tbh

No one's actually doing that though.

carl craig is in the thread. please stop saying indie.

Obv 69 is one of the best things on the list. There are a lot of good things on the list!

i don't cosign v much of the list fwiw

Well duh

though i'm not sure if i managed to finish clicking through tbh

I would have been curious to see a list that was a closer reflection of a nineties version of their current aesthetic, though I guess they think indie rock, golden age rap, "intelligent" jungle and aphex twin are exactly that. Maybe they are.

it probably is, particularly albums-wise

they should have let lex vote. His reviews have really been getting the readership riled up over there

obv i am v aware of this now but i was genuinely surprised at first - i don't have the patience to think of the "ew! minaj/bieber/cheryl cole pop cooties" brigade with anything other than contempt though

it's 2012 did we not HAVE THESE ARGUMENTS ALREADY

also british dance music sux right now, apart from like ikonika

Royal-t et al?

It's not "indie" per se but if you factor out Belle & Sebastian and Pulp you can smell the fucking weed coming off this list from a mile. Virtually everything here his the stoner-friendly facet of its genre.

I mean that's fine in its way because weed was pretty significant in 90s music but its very much presenting only one side of the decade.

That seems thoroughly otm.