Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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Love the Sir John Betjeman track someone added. Didn't even realise he recorded an album, will check out the rest later.

Billy Dods, Monday, 26 January 2009 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Looks like King Crimson were removed on request: http://www.dgmlive.com/forum.htm?entry=13308

Same goes for KC on YouTube: http://www.dgmlive.com/forum.htm

mike t-diva, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I suspect that Spotify didn't just randomly upload KC material without permission. I would guess they asked Universal or Warner's or whowever can we upload your companies back catalogue and they said sure, then individual artists got wind of it and complained.

Billy Dods, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Luddites.

talk me down off the (ledge), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Top of my wishlist: a recommendation engine; social networking features.

I quite like the fact that there aren't social networking features, but I'm sure they'll appear soon.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish I knew how vinyl only straight-up unauthorised re-edit stuff like this ended up on there.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link

There's some info here: http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/topics/where_is_the_catalogue_on_spotify_really_sourced_from

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:24 (fifteen years ago) link

The-Dream is listed as D:Ream *roll eyes*

Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Things can only get better.

Charles Bronson (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:21 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, def needs better data, an equalizer and a suggest ban system

cozwn, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link

suggest ban any song you hear and dislike

Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link

def. finding this is perfect music you want to listen to but don't want to clutter up a harddrive w/. whole bob dylan back catalogue, all the wu-tang my ears can eat? yes pls

cozwn, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i like this.
however, on villalobos : fizheuer zieheuer (part 2), there is vinyl noise.
i've never heard the cd version so could it be that the original has crackles etc ?

mark e, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

See link posted above - some of this stuff is being sourced from vinyl rips.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i saw that after i posted, sorry mike.
tis a great application though.
i really hope this is legit, makes people money, and doesn't get shut down.
the catalogue is bursting with stuff i enjoy.

mark e, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

The Pitchfork 500: #1 - 1977-1979.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

am I missing something here?

catalouge seems very bitty to me so far or maybe it's just what I'm searching for...

Is this the kind of thing where I'm better searching for other peoples playlists? or it's meant to be like last.fm with full tracks?

fandango, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link

hmm, it's probably because I used a UK invite isn't it? No Kompakt, no Melt-Banana.. not much of anything so far to be honest so not really much use

fandango, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link

(anyone got a US invite? :( )

fandango, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link

oh wait shi-

I searched for kompakt the other day and it returned loads of results... today I get 2?!

cozwn, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:39 (fifteen years ago) link

five hits for superpitcher now, when there were tons (30?) the other day

cozwn, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link

All the Gescom's disappeared.

talk me down off the (ledge), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:42 (fifteen years ago) link

And all the Autechre! ffs.

talk me down off the (ledge), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:43 (fifteen years ago) link

But the one I put on a playlist still plays...

talk me down off the (ledge), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Thomas Brinkmann is gone, too.

no-nonsense, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link

oh well

cozwn, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah the development here isn't very promising.

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Fucking hell, you're not wrong. This is moving in completely the wrong direction.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I suspect they're probably taking down loads of stuff, possibly because the original sources were private collections and now they're having to clean up their act and get proper permissions. A year ago, when the site was a tiny Sweden-only start-up, they even had Beatles stuff on there.

However, it's inconsistent. I noticed yesterday that if you follow the "Home" link and view the "most popular" lists, Coldplay's "Viva La Vida" (both the track and the album) were displayed in red, meaning "no longer available" - and if you clicked the link, a message came up saying "not available in the UK". However, you could still search for "coldplay viva la vida" and play the results just fine. (Can't check this out now, as the s/w isn't installed on this machine.)

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, d'you suppose that they've negotiated reprint rights with AMG for the biog blurbs?

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:53 (fifteen years ago) link

On the evidence so far, I very much doubt it.

Still, this answers the question lots of people have been asking me when I've been bunging them invites: "How does the business/rights model work?" Answer: badly.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:55 (fifteen years ago) link

my gut instinct is that they've taken them off the search, as a preliminary measure, before taking the tracks out of the database entirely

cozwn, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Judging by the recent developments I imagine open source, P2P alternative in 5…4…3…2…

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Availability certainly varies by country; my friend in Amsterdam found that about 50% of my "best of 2008" playlist was unavailable in the NL.

Perhaps they've signed agreements with the majors, but haven't sorted things out with a lot of the independents?

NB - some of the Spotify service already relies on P2P protocols, and I recall reading that one of the lead developers was previously working on Torrent services.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:04 (fifteen years ago) link

http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/topics/why_do_songs_disapear

cozwn, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:04 (fifteen years ago) link

No Kompakt

kompakt total 6 is still there. you just can't find it with their search engine...

Joris Stereo, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:06 (fifteen years ago) link

That response is from three months ago. I assume the songs disappearing this week are for different reasons.

onimo, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Eh? No, I assume it's all part of the process of them updating their catalogue with "more" music and "adding" songs. Now, to me it looks suspiciously like that should be "less" and "removing", but hey! I'm not a thrusting young web 2.2b chancer, so what the fuck do I know?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:38 (fifteen years ago) link

The Smiths have vanished... ah, I knew it was all too good to be true!

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 13:15 (fifteen years ago) link

muxtape mk. viii

mark e, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 13:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Muxtape is relaunching as some kinda minimal MySpace.

Architect of the Geocities (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, and Spotify is relaunching as some kinda minimal Spotify.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I retract my AMAZING, although it's still pretty good.

It also can't play albums as a continuous mix, which is terrible. I suppose it took itunes till version 7 or something to do that, but my CD player from 1991 has no trouble.

Aghrr Lady Gaga advert! Bring back the Energy Savings Trust.

Jamie T Smith, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Energy Savings Trust ad, featuring the dulcet tones of Hugh Dennis.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

the whole villalobos archive has now gone :(
was my easiest/best/quickest/cheapest way to catch up on the mans history.
oh well, i'm going to listen to sinatra at the sands instead.

mark e, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

This is pretty cool - runs perfectly in Wine on Linux!

all my single lobsters put a ring on it (tpp), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link


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