New Apple Lust Objects

they could integrate it with the visualizer, so the tag cloud shimmies in time to the music

compilation thing is terrific - what's crap are the submissions to CDDB that mark "best ofs" as compilations. really compilations is "various artists"

Since this is now a giant whinge thread I HATE HATE HATE people putting the 'Alternative' genre tag on any music that isn't top 40. XTC isn't alternative ffs.

(and alternative is a pointless genre anyway)

Will our kids dig through our old mp3 collections, discovering oddball favorites? I kind of doubt it.

They will lol at yr archived weekly Last.fm charts instead.

What is XTC?

They're a jangly guitar band beloved by Geir Hongro.

Yes, but is "Jangly Guitar Band" an acceptable genre for filesharing?

Meanwhile in the New Apple Lust Objects thread

49.5 hours to go and two Aus providers haven't announced shit.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/07/08/spat_with_rogers_leaves_canadian_apple_stores_without_iphones.html

lol/cry

I'm not sold on this iteration. GPS is meaningless to me without turn by turn directions and 3G coverage looks shaky at best.

Depends where you live. Here 3G coverage is very good on most carriers.

xp god I hope that's true. NZ could be next.

haha, Vodafone Aus competes with Optus's goodish plans by releasing total arse gravy. You idiots.

Ok, SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK IS UP HERE? Belgium has the iphone only it costs 525 to 700 fucking euros! I mean WHAT THE FUCK is up with that shit? yes, yes, yes, because they can't do the "koppelverkoop" (exclusively with one phone company, they have to make it available for all users). But COME ON 700 euros? I'm VERY tempted to import one. Hmm, how do you go about doing that anywayzz? Fuck. Yeah, I want one but not for 525/700 euros. Fuck that shit.

mmm, tasty koppelverkoop

i thought the price cap was worldwide?

hahahahahhahahaha

God no. 700 euros. I still can't get over it.

thats pretty ridiculous. do you have choice of carrier?

everyone outside the us & uk is getting fucked backwards and forwards on this thing

No kopelverkoop means any carrier you like, I think.

Even if only Mobistar can sell you one.

you can get the 8GB for $99 in Australia

Don't Australian data allowances tend to give you like, 2K a month or something?

Meantime -- recommendations for an iPhone microphone, anyone? Will need to get a good one for interview purposes.

you can get the 8GB for $99 in Australia

-- sunny successor, Thursday, 10 July 2008 01:09 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Nope.

When Jobs said US$199 he meant the up-front price on a contract. Which turned out to be a lie anyway, as we're seeing in places like NZ.

Outright in Aus it's about $729 for the 8Gb and $849 for the 16Gb, and even then it's an extra $80 to unlock from the network. The $99 you saw will be up-front on a contract.

Don't Australian data allowances tend to give you like, 2K a month or something?

-- Alba, Thursday, 10 July 2008 01:23 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Only one company has officially said anything, and its data rates are okay but not great. A $59 cap will get you 700Mb of data per month; $39 gets you 500Mb. If you want 1Gb you're paying around $100.

AA I saw Vodaphone had the phone for $99 with a $99 a month contract somewhere. I'll try to find it

Hey, last week I got AirPort for my iBook!

-- Sean (Sean), Wednesday, January 8, 2003 12:07 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

in the future, when people parody this decade, they will say things like this

xpost: Living across the Ditch in NZ just seems punishing. Broadband access is punishing and the total cost of the iPhone is just outrageous (estimates put the higher end options at nearly $6000/yr). Lovely country this, but Christ, they really have to get on top of this.

that'll teach you for living in a nuclear-free zone

And I didn't think it could get worse. Telstra's plans are just slightly more painful than having one's anus torn apart by grappling hooks attached to very, very slow tractors.

So clearly competition and an open market have resoundingly failed.

not if you're the goatse.cx dude

Am I missing something here?

"
Confirmed: Vodafone plans announced!
Wednesday, 09 July 2008
Update (11:29am Thursday): Vodafone has updated their plan webpage - note a few changes from yesterday, including the removal of quite a number of the cap contracts and the addition of:

Mobile Payment Plan (MPP) is available to credit approved Contract Vodafone customers. MPP is in addition to the minimum monthly spend for the particular plan and any other additional charges. MPP may be terminated at any time by paying out balance of phone cost. See Vodafone.com.au for full conditions.

Thanks to Tim for sending us the update.

[ (Old) Vodafone Terms and Conditions Screenshot ] | [ (Old) Vodafone Plans Screenshot ]

Vodafone are pleased to announce 8 new and exclusive plans for the Apple® iPhone™ 3G. Not only will these plans give you heaps of credit to talk, TXT and more, you'll also get a massive amount of included data to take advantage of the iPhone's email and web-browsing capabilities. We'll announce full details on 11 July.

$69 Vodafone Cap Contract for Apple® iPhone™ 3G
iPhone 8GB for $189 or iPhone 16GB for $309 includes $310 of talk, TXT & more plus 250MB data per month

$99 Vodafone Cap Contract for Apple® iPhone™ 3G
iPhone 8GB for $99 or iPhone 16GB for $219 includes $600 of talk, TXT & more plus 500MB data per month

$119 Vodafone Cap Contract for Apple® iPhone™ 3G
iPhone 8GB for $59 or iPhone 16GB for $179 includes $800 of talk, TXT & more plus 500MB data per month

$169 Vodafone Cap Contract for Apple® iPhone™ 3G
iPhone 8GB for FREE or iPhone 16GB for $89 includes $1200 of talk, TXT & more plus 1GB data per month"

http://www.iphoneinaustralia.com/

This is all quite interesting: In Russia we're hearing that the reason we're still not getting (legal) iPhones is because it's not possible here to legally lock people into one carrier and therefore the "low-price" iPhone isn't possible (i.e. no carrier will subsidize your purchase if you are then free to switch to another carrier). But if I understand what I see above, people outside the US and UK aren't getting lower priced phones AND they aren't necessarily locked into their carrier for years.

Plus the swtichover to the low-priced phones means we can no longer buy phones without subscriptions and unlock them :( Effing a.

Sorry ss, I've forgotten where that was going.

should i get 8 or 16?!?!?

i don't plan to use it much as an iPod ...

Dunno. I'm getting an 8Gb on a one-year contract, and if it's not enough I'll start again next year. Maps is really the only thing I can think of that would suck up storage.

Telstra's $35 plan comes with 5Mb of data per month. MEGABYTES. FIVE MEGABYTES. That's the equivalent of, what, one tenth of a WDYLL thread.

Has anyone else in the entire world offered a 5Mb/month plan?? What's the fucking point?? Honestly??

Seriously, this is the exact equivalent of me selling bananas at a stall for $2/kg, and some ugly deluded moron sets up next to me selling bananas for $500/kg.

This, I mean you would have to have your head actually all the way up your own arsehole to even contemplate offering 5Mb/month. Utterly THE stupidest business decision I have ever seen in my entire life.

Except that there are a bunch of people dumb enough only to look at the headline phone cost and price plan. Ignoring the important details.

i might not have researched it enough but i think in the US you have to buy unlimited data for $30/mo. (though not unlimited text)

i mean, $30/mo more expensive than a comparable at&t plan. so a 450-minute plan that normally costs $40/mo costs $70/mo.

I think you're right. And it's not reeeeeally unlimited; they get all shirty if you use more than a couple of gig.

what do they do, threaten to beat you up if you use too much?

appstore is open, and awesome.

no 2.0 firmware, no cred

Man there's some junk in here too