Magic: The Gathering C/D

you should ask the store how many rounds they run - at the store i play at, it's 40 minutes to draft and deckbuild, followed by 3 50-minute rounds, so it works out to around 3 hours total, assuming you play all 3 rounds (people often drop before the last round if they're out of the money, or draw the last round to split prizes if they're in the money)

rounds in MTG events are always 50 minutes plus some overage time (if time runs out, you get 5 more turns to win before the match becomes a draw) so it'll probably be an hour per round plus another 30-60 minutes for the draft itself

most 8-man drafts I've done are around 2 hours in total

welp that's my 3rd M13 4-pack Sealed, went 2-1 every time, every single game I've lost was due to Jace/Sands of Delirium, god damn it

I drafted again

had a red/white burn/token deck that people seemed to think was pretty good but still only went 1-2 due to luck. but I drafted a thragtusk and foil talrand just to sell, which almost paid for the night.

haha, next time we meet up you'll have an edh deck

iatee msg me if you want to practice draft m13 ive drafted it a lot and think i have a reasonable handle on it

also it could be p fun

through what? magic online or is there another way we could do it? it would be fun tho, I still need some familiarity w/ lotsa cards, at this point I still prob make my color decisions too early

theres a p decent draft sim that ive used to practice its not as a good as a real draft but its decent for like discussing pick vs pick stuff and general deck-building things

ive never tried team drafting on mtgo although ive seen people do it so it is theoretically possible

is it a program or a site? remember I'm ipad-bound, tho I can steal the lady's laptop on weekends.

its a site

i think wizards also has one on their site as well actually iirc

oh cool

let's do that sometime this week

now that I have actual cards again I am tempted to try to teach gf, esp since her sister actually plays w/ HER bf, but her sister is also more tomboyish

well u know how manly playing mtg can be

wowowow at the new planeswalker

http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/rtr/yn1n1r28cd_en.jpg

seems a lot like Gideon to me in that it's gonna be a total bitch to get rid of. that ultimate is just bizarre but super awesome anyway

yall are serious about this shit huh
i finally tried this about a week ago, been dicking around on the ipad. kinda fun
kinda obsessive

wowowow at the new planeswalker

yeah i was p excited abt her too - not really sure how good shell be rn but im not great at predicting stuff like that. jund seems p crazy given the currently spoiled stuff tho

im p glad i built jund for block rn tho

I don't think she's as good as Gideon but I like her because she's good in any situation. That ultimate is one of the neatest I've ever seen on a walker.

Gotta say I'm not really a fan of stuff like Dreadbore or that new Smother being rares

i like that planeswalker a bunch but i don't think its super powerful - she doesn't really press an advantage very well if left unchecked

it's still amazing to me how much people overpay to preorder planeswalkers that will be $10-15 a month or 2 down the line

This one went from $30 to $40 quick. My guess is that she'll settle in the $20-25 range. I do agree that the thing doesn't really do much by just building to an ultimate but Rock-type decks (which love to press small advantages like these) will probably go nuts over a card like this.

Gotta say I'm not really a fan of stuff like Dreadbore or that new Smother being rares

yeah the GB spell spoiled today is probably the best or at least most useful card spoiled yet but its shitty that its a rare instead of an uncommon

i'd snap short it at $20

considering lilliana of the veil was briefly like $15 thats probably right

whats the most expensive pw in standard rn? the new ajani?

yeah and that's under $20 already

I dunno, Karn is $15 even though it's about to rotate out and only really saw play as a 1-of. Planeswalkers have a lot of appeal across every format. It looks like BG/Jund is going to be a new thing and even if this is just a Lux Cannon that starts with five counters, that's really strong. I feel like this will just be one of those walkers that really is better than it looks because it helps in a lot of situations. That said I'm a little surprised that it's preordering at $40 while new Jace is only $25.

On the plus side, I can't wait to grind out drafts on MTGO, it looks like there are a bunch of money rares already. Abrupt Decay is preordering at $14, and you know the shocklands will be probably $10 apiece. Actually in general I think it may be a good idea to short-sell everything from this set as it's pretty much guaranteed to be the highest selling set in Magic history. Just sayin'.

the average magic player is horrible at evaluating cards, is what it comes down to. if it was possible to short sell cards you could make a fortune (this is essentially what the big online retailers do by selling preorders)

yeah considering ive done several hundred m13 drafts i cant imagine how many ravnica ones ill end up doing so im not rushing to buy singles atp but sometimes stuff like the azorius mythic seems like decent value @ like $3

but i am one of those people who is terrible at evaluating cards i mean i thought tibalt might be good so

I think Tibalt is actually okay, there just isnt a deck for him yet. But everyone who think he's godawful probably isn't understanding that a two-mana planeswalker kinda has to suck.

do you guys compete in local constructed events? is the only way to win these to have a deck full of $20 cards?

if it was possible to short sell cards you could make a fortune

yeah I would have loved to do this with Temporal Mastery. I still love the card but it was pretty easy to predict a crash

shocklands are not going to be $10 for long. unless the set somehow sells out completely like Worldwake did, the total value of the set has a ceiling set by the MSRP of the sealed product, and constructed-playable mythic rares eat up a lot of that space

do you guys compete in local constructed events? is the only way to win these to have a deck full of $20 cards?

looking at the starcity preorders supreme verdict @ $5 seems about right as well day hovered at $4 iirc over the last 6 months or so

fwiw ive always wondered how much of the preoder price spike is do to heightened demand and not just people speculating or misevaluating cards? like there has to be a decent # of players who want to have playsets of cards for decks right away and are willing to pay a premium for that. like obv shocklands will fall to like $7-$10 as soon as people start drafting but you can always make up the premium in prize money after a couple of weeks? idk

do you guys compete in local constructed events? is the only way to win these to have a deck full of $20 cards?

my deck doesnt have a card over $15 and i finished top 32 at a p big tournament last month so not really

the birthing pod deck i won DKA Gameday with didn't have any $20 cards but it did have so many ~$5 cards in it that it was probably worth $200 on the whole anyway, so i dunno

generally i just draft so much that over time i end up with enough good cards to trade for the stuff i need for decks

actually kinda curious what the cheapest tournamet-viable standard deck is rn - mono-black infect?

i think the main tip i can give for getting into constructed cheap is to pick the archetype you want to play and then identify the most crucial cards for that archetype and get those ASAP, and wait on getting the cards that have workable substitutes.

for example, if you want to play control, your deck probably isn't going to work without some rare board sweepers, whereas it matters a lot less whether you're closing out games with a $15 Consecrated Sphinx or a $1 Sphinx of Uthuun. likewise, if you want to play a green midrange deck, you absolutely need 4 Birds of Paradise (or whatever the current equivalent is) but it doesn't matter quite as much whether those birds are accelerating you into a $12 Thragtusk or a $3 Wolfir Silverheart

Lamp i've seen some supposedly <$30 WB tokens lists that look pretty solid. Infect leans too heavily on Inkmoth Nexus to be the cheapest deck

i think that was $30 on MTGO though, since isolated chapel is 10 bucks each in paper

yeah i meant paper

I definitely need to find the right closer for this BW Exalted Soldiers thing I have going on. It's working really well at inflicting a bunch of damage in the first several turns, but tends to stall out and fall prey to more powerful removal. Odric, Master Tactician and Nefarox Overlord of Grixis are turning out to be a bit underwhelming mid-game.

also w/b tokens isnt really tournament-viable

I'd at least like to have a better shot at winning on Casual mtgo.

sublime? i guess shes just as weak to snag &c

probably good but $$$$