Liliana's shade was giving me fits on mtgo last night. Thinking of dropping a couple in my irl deck to try out in f next week.
― Moodles, Sunday, 2 September 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
In fnm next week, that is
― Moodles, Sunday, 2 September 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
that looks good, you definitely seem to know what you're doing - i wouldn't play dark favor maindeck, since exalted decks tend to be medium speed and that card works best in a really fast deck. would play the 2nd griffin protector instead probably, having flying guys is good when you're often turning your opponents stuff into walls rather than killing it
also duress tends to be a better sideboard card than maindeck card, since having a dead card vs like a green-based all-creatures deck is bad
― ciderpress, Sunday, 2 September 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link
though by all means bring dark favor in vs decks without a lot of removal, sometimes you can win just by slapping it on a tormented soul turn 2
― ciderpress, Sunday, 2 September 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link
cool they finally made a card that specifically destroys planeswalkers
― ciderpress, Sunday, 2 September 2012 03:09 (eleven years ago) link
bunch of RTR spoilers just came out
-shocklands are back (of course)-new Jace is shockingly not overpowered-BR: Destroy target creature or planeswalker, wowowow
this set is going to rule
― frogbs, Sunday, 2 September 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
i love the common dual-lands and associated cards
― ciderpress, Sunday, 2 September 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
seriously considering buying into a modern deck now since this set's going to lower the barrier to entry by a fair amount and people might actually play the format outside of high-level events. not sure if i really want to drop $100 on a playset of thoughtseizes though..
― ciderpress, Sunday, 2 September 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
i should probably be banned from drafting this format http://i.imgur.com/6Rqww.jpg
― ciderpress, Sunday, 2 September 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
How long should I expect a local booster draft event to run for?
― Moodles, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
you should ask the store how many rounds they run - at the store i play at, it's 40 minutes to draft and deckbuild, followed by 3 50-minute rounds, so it works out to around 3 hours total, assuming you play all 3 rounds (people often drop before the last round if they're out of the money, or draw the last round to split prizes if they're in the money)
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
rounds in MTG events are always 50 minutes plus some overage time (if time runs out, you get 5 more turns to win before the match becomes a draw) so it'll probably be an hour per round plus another 30-60 minutes for the draft itself
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
most 8-man drafts I've done are around 2 hours in total
― frogbs, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
welp that's my 3rd M13 4-pack Sealed, went 2-1 every time, every single game I've lost was due to Jace/Sands of Delirium, god damn it
― frogbs, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
I drafted again
had a red/white burn/token deck that people seemed to think was pretty good but still only went 1-2 due to luck. but I drafted a thragtusk and foil talrand just to sell, which almost paid for the night.
― iatee, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 02:27 (eleven years ago) link
haha, next time we meet up you'll have an edh deck
― Mordy, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
iatee msg me if you want to practice draft m13 ive drafted it a lot and think i have a reasonable handle on it
― Lamp, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
also it could be p fun
― Lamp, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link
through what? magic online or is there another way we could do it? it would be fun tho, I still need some familiarity w/ lotsa cards, at this point I still prob make my color decisions too early
― iatee, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 03:42 (eleven years ago) link
theres a p decent draft sim that ive used to practice its not as a good as a real draft but its decent for like discussing pick vs pick stuff and general deck-building things
ive never tried team drafting on mtgo although ive seen people do it so it is theoretically possible
― Lamp, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 03:50 (eleven years ago) link
is it a program or a site? remember I'm ipad-bound, tho I can steal the lady's laptop on weekends.
― iatee, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 03:51 (eleven years ago) link
its a site
i think wizards also has one on their site as well actually iirc
― Lamp, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 03:54 (eleven years ago) link
oh cool
let's do that sometime this week
― iatee, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 03:59 (eleven years ago) link
now that I have actual cards again I am tempted to try to teach gf, esp since her sister actually plays w/ HER bf, but her sister is also more tomboyish
― iatee, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
well u know how manly playing mtg can be
― Mordy, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 04:19 (eleven years ago) link
wowowow at the new planeswalker
http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/rtr/yn1n1r28cd_en.jpg
seems a lot like Gideon to me in that it's gonna be a total bitch to get rid of. that ultimate is just bizarre but super awesome anyway
― frogbs, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 05:12 (eleven years ago) link
yall are serious about this shit huhi finally tried this about a week ago, been dicking around on the ipad. kinda funkinda obsessive
― This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 05:29 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i was p excited abt her too - not really sure how good shell be rn but im not great at predicting stuff like that. jund seems p crazy given the currently spoiled stuff tho
― Lamp, Thursday, 6 September 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
im p glad i built jund for block rn tho
I don't think she's as good as Gideon but I like her because she's good in any situation. That ultimate is one of the neatest I've ever seen on a walker.
Gotta say I'm not really a fan of stuff like Dreadbore or that new Smother being rares
― frogbs, Thursday, 6 September 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
i like that planeswalker a bunch but i don't think its super powerful - she doesn't really press an advantage very well if left unchecked
― ciderpress, Thursday, 6 September 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
it's still amazing to me how much people overpay to preorder planeswalkers that will be $10-15 a month or 2 down the line
― ciderpress, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
This one went from $30 to $40 quick. My guess is that she'll settle in the $20-25 range. I do agree that the thing doesn't really do much by just building to an ultimate but Rock-type decks (which love to press small advantages like these) will probably go nuts over a card like this.
― frogbs, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the GB spell spoiled today is probably the best or at least most useful card spoiled yet but its shitty that its a rare instead of an uncommon
― Lamp, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
i'd snap short it at $20
― ciderpress, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
considering lilliana of the veil was briefly like $15 thats probably right
― Lamp, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
whats the most expensive pw in standard rn? the new ajani?
yeah and that's under $20 already
― ciderpress, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno, Karn is $15 even though it's about to rotate out and only really saw play as a 1-of. Planeswalkers have a lot of appeal across every format. It looks like BG/Jund is going to be a new thing and even if this is just a Lux Cannon that starts with five counters, that's really strong. I feel like this will just be one of those walkers that really is better than it looks because it helps in a lot of situations. That said I'm a little surprised that it's preordering at $40 while new Jace is only $25.
On the plus side, I can't wait to grind out drafts on MTGO, it looks like there are a bunch of money rares already. Abrupt Decay is preordering at $14, and you know the shocklands will be probably $10 apiece. Actually in general I think it may be a good idea to short-sell everything from this set as it's pretty much guaranteed to be the highest selling set in Magic history. Just sayin'.
― frogbs, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
the average magic player is horrible at evaluating cards, is what it comes down to. if it was possible to short sell cards you could make a fortune (this is essentially what the big online retailers do by selling preorders)
― ciderpress, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
yeah considering ive done several hundred m13 drafts i cant imagine how many ravnica ones ill end up doing so im not rushing to buy singles atp but sometimes stuff like the azorius mythic seems like decent value @ like $3
― Lamp, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
but i am one of those people who is terrible at evaluating cards i mean i thought tibalt might be good so
― Lamp, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
I think Tibalt is actually okay, there just isnt a deck for him yet. But everyone who think he's godawful probably isn't understanding that a two-mana planeswalker kinda has to suck.
― frogbs, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
do you guys compete in local constructed events? is the only way to win these to have a deck full of $20 cards?
― Moodles, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
if it was possible to short sell cards you could make a fortune
yeah I would have loved to do this with Temporal Mastery. I still love the card but it was pretty easy to predict a crash
― frogbs, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
shocklands are not going to be $10 for long. unless the set somehow sells out completely like Worldwake did, the total value of the set has a ceiling set by the MSRP of the sealed product, and constructed-playable mythic rares eat up a lot of that space
― ciderpress, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
― ciderpress, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
looking at the starcity preorders supreme verdict @ $5 seems about right as well day hovered at $4 iirc over the last 6 months or so
fwiw ive always wondered how much of the preoder price spike is do to heightened demand and not just people speculating or misevaluating cards? like there has to be a decent # of players who want to have playsets of cards for decks right away and are willing to pay a premium for that. like obv shocklands will fall to like $7-$10 as soon as people start drafting but you can always make up the premium in prize money after a couple of weeks? idk
my deck doesnt have a card over $15 and i finished top 32 at a p big tournament last month so not really
― Lamp, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
the birthing pod deck i won DKA Gameday with didn't have any $20 cards but it did have so many ~$5 cards in it that it was probably worth $200 on the whole anyway, so i dunno
― ciderpress, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
generally i just draft so much that over time i end up with enough good cards to trade for the stuff i need for decks
― ciderpress, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link