vaginas are not clown cars

that was at 17! (126/17) how many do they have now? i mean obv this was what a year ago so it couldnt be any more than 18 i suppose

she had #18 in december i think?

that this thred and the toni collete thred are both being revived tonight says something powerful, I think.

god bless her husband for keeping at it. her clown car's gotta be like the fucking holland tunnel at this point

it's not a cunt; it's not a tunnel; it's a chunnel

that was funnier when i heard it in my head

this is o_0 retarded and all, but that only works out to 7.4 months per pregnancy!

Some of those pregnancies were twins too.

it's not a pussy; it's not a four-door; it's a passage into Mordor.

lot of player hatin' on this thread

― da croupier, Friday, August 3, 2007 3:52 PM

this is o_0 retarded and all, but that only works out to 7.4 months per pregnancy!

Some of those pregnancies were twins too.

― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:46 PM (26 minutes ago)

oic

po lil terlet chile

"It is quite easy to miss a baby when you're anticipating seven"

California octuplets' mom already has 6 kids: report

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The California woman who astonished doctors earlier this week by giving birth to octuplets at a suburban Los Angeles hospital already has six other children, CBS News reported on Thursday.

The woman delivered six boys and two girls prematurely by Caesarean section on Monday, surprising doctors who had seen only seven babies in ultrasound images.

Officials at Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in the Los Angeles suburb of Bellflower have declined to identify the mother or reveal if she received fertility treatments, which can increase the likelihood of multiple births.

There are no known cases of naturally conceived octuplets.

A Kaiser Permanente spokeswoman declined to comment on the CBS report but said that all eight babies were still in the hospital's neonatal intensive care unit and doing well.

Five of the babies were feeding and six were breathing on their own, hospital spokeswoman Nancy Tovar-Huxen said. She said doctors had not yet determined when they could go home.

In reporting on "The Early Show" that the mother already has six other children, a CBS reporter who visited the woman's Los Angeles-area home cited two unnamed acquaintances.

One of those acquaintances said that the mother lived with her parents and that two of her other children were twins.

The birth of the octuplets already has raised eyebrows, with fertility and reproductive experts saying that such high-risk pregnancies should be avoided.

"When we see something like this in the general fertility world, it gives us the heebie-jeebies," Michael Tucker, an Atlanta-based clinical embryologist and leading researcher in fertility treatments, told the Los Angeles Times.

"If a medical practitioner had anything to do with it, there's some degree of inappropriate medical therapy there," the Times quoted him as saying.

The last octuplets known to have survived birth in the United States, six girls and two boys, were born in Houston in 1998. One of the babies, a girl, died one week later.

"Jummy Jue, Jiffany, Jandie, Jordon, Jizzie, Jackson, Jeather, Jody, Jylan, Jermot, Jordan, Jaylor, Jrittany, Jesley, Jumer, Jout, Jassidy, Joe, Jloe, Jax, Junter, Jubella Jabies, Jendall, Jaitlin, Joah, Jasha, Jorgan, Jyra, Jian, Jauren, J*bert, Jondoleezza Jarie, Jhil, Jirthday, Jrystal Jeth, Jubya, Jincest, Jinternational Jarvester, Jitney, Jwitney, Jary, Jabbed Jin Jail"
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that was funnier when i heard it in my head

― JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:38 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i look forward to the depressing reality show

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/30/earlyshow/health/main4764432.shtml

babby-hoarding is the new cat hoarding

Another bible thumping christian brood mare pumping

out slaves for wall mart and the welfare system,

this evangelical lemming belongs in prison,

goosestepping monster

Posted by pythoncharly at 02:21 PM : Jan 30, 2009
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http://www.woodyallen.com/misc/clowns.gif

Woohoo! 3 months early! That means they can make another one even sooner than planned!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091212/ap_en_tv/us_duggar19_kids

The couple has said they'll continue welcoming children as long as Michelle is able to have them.

Lucky she wasn't like my greatgrandmother who had her menopause in her early 30s.

I wonder how the sex is like with her. No, I srsly don't wanna know.

Michelle Duggar evidently doesn't breastfeed, would would delay ovulation, and since formula fed infants score 5.2 IQ points lower than breastfed ones, there's every chance this mental disability will be perpetuated to all the children.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWrMDlafrAI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3C-ERBfCms

whether or not that's true any effect on their IQ is gonna be way overshadowed by the fact that she homeschools them from the bible, etc., and iirc they don't believe in letting the girls go to college. oh well.

my point is who cares about whether she breastfeeds them (because the propaganda and moralizing surrounding breastfeeding is tiring tbh), they will end up being as zombie-like as their parents regardless

If god had wanted humans to breastfeed their babies then milk would come out of breasts, so there.

the propaganda and moralizing surrounding breastfeeding is tiring tbh

^^^this

*crossing fingers breastfeeding debate/meltdown/clusterfuck does not ensue*

So, odds are what, she's had at least two gay kids by now?

clusterfuck

Surely most of the Dugg4r kids are still too young for that?

harbl/abbott:

Had I known that was a contentious issue, I'd wouldn't have posted: I just spend a lot of my life tooling around medline and pubmed and thought it no more controversial than FASDs (I've a grown nephew with those).

Michelle Duggar evidently doesn't breastfeed, would would delay ovulation

Uh no. It is not a guaranty. You can still ovulate and, thus, get pregnant. There are plenty of women who breastfeed while pregnant. Here we get a mini-pill when we breastfeed. In fact my pharmacist's wife breastfeed but got pregnant (after three months).

since formula fed infants score 5.2 IQ points lower than breastfed ones

I've read they catch up by a certain age (six?)

Honestly there was a time I regretted breastfeeding my second child. She waking up every (other) hour for the longest time fucked me up for good. hah.

Um, actually the benefits are pretty clear at age 6, at least amongst 14,000 children in Belarus

Well, one more thing I can blame on my mom: my stupidity is due to my mom's desire to stuff a bottle in my mouth instead of a nipple. Beeeeeee-itch. wink wink

BTW for every study there's a counterstudy. (I am exaggerating of course.)

i had actually been thinking about her a couple days ago, like the state of her body and whether she is a superwoman. because i wonder if most women's bodies would just stop accepting any more pregnancies at a certain point. and i was assuming she didn't breastfeed because she got pregnant again and again but maybe i'm wrong. anyway i haven't read the studies about breastfeeding (not something i'm concerned about atm haha) but i know those kinds of conclusions have been criticized because it's not really possible to control properly in that kind of experiment. and also being another one of those things that's not such a big deal but for which people love to tsk disapprovingly. things like being poor (bad schools, not enough food, etc.) should have a much greater effect on IQ than whether you were breastfed.

xp

Of course. There's actually been at least 60 studies by this point, and in reviews, a little more than 2/3s show statistically significant positive effects, about a third none, or nothing with statistical significance. The Belarus study is interesting for two reasons: it huge as these cohort studies go, and Belarus is more ethnically homogeneous than the US or most of Western Europe.

I'm probably thinking too much about this, because my FASDs affected nephew is marrying a woman he knocked up, and they started stocking up on formula 6 months before the birth. I've mentioned one of these studies briefly once while buying them cheesecakes they craved (neither are NNs, she refuses all vegetables), but neither seemed too inquisitive or curious, so I let the matter drop.

xp harbl:

Its impossible to do controlled studies in the U.S. or Western Europe, where health literacy is highly correlated with socioeconomic class, which has a much greater influence on future performance. There's a brief window (perhaps passed) that we can do good studies in East Europe.

xpost

well their kid will probably be less intelligent because his parents are not inquisitive or curious, you know?
i don't even want to have a kid, this is just an interesting problem to me. the level of observation that goes on, beyond scientific things. it's the same thing that provides a context for a woman with 19 kids to have a tv show and have the news announce every time she has another. and the octomom. and all the scary myths about crackbabies.
interesting article btw http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200904/case-against-breastfeeding

and abbott said not to derail the thread over this ; )

6 iq points pfft

To be honest I don't know and I'm not even sure we'll know for sure because so many factors have an influence.

Yeah six iq points. Whether I was bf or not, it wouldn't have brought me over the 100 treshold. lol

Derelict, the FASD thing is close to home: my grandmother was an alcoholic. Drank during pregnancy. But it didn't fuck up my dad too much. I mean, he doesn't have FAS syndrome. But it did render him infertile (right after I was born actually). Well, that's what my mom said once. It's not talked about in great lengths.

BTW nineteen kids is mad. I mean not in a negative kinda way. Actually to be honest, maybe it is negative: there's only so much attention you can give to a child. And I do think that you can't do that when you have 19 kids.

But you know, fuck it, it's her body and she can do whatever she wants with it. But somebody should tell her that you can have sex and not create babies. lol

Is 5 or 6 points maybe a more significant margin/jumpstart for babbys?

http://www.blisstree.com/breastfeeding123/files/2008/06/chalkboard-with-breastfeeding.jpg

i feel ok passing judgment on her in general! i think she and jim-bob are a force for evil in the world tbqh

You know there are some people who cannot breastfeed, despite desperately wishing to. A close friend of mine is one of these people. Repeated bouts of mastitis meant it was out of the question and the infection/antibiotics meant she couldnt even express to bottle.

She was distraught at this, and anyone suggesting she's a bad mother for doing so would quite rightly be punched in the balls, it makes her FURIOUS when "well meaning" people go on about how impt it is.

Not breastfeeding is probably one of the least questionable things the Duggars do.

yeah definitely

You know there are some people who cannot breastfeed, despite desperately wishing to. A close friend of mine is one of these people. Repeated bouts of mastitis meant it was out of the question and the infection/antibiotics meant she couldnt even express to bottle.

She was distraught at this, and anyone suggesting she's a bad mother for doing so would quite rightly be punched in the balls, it makes her FURIOUS when "well meaning" people go on about how impt it is.

― millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Sunday, December 13, 2009 5:26 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is a bummer, and those ppl should def be punched in the balls. however, i'm still with derelict: breastfeeding is strongly recommended when it is not contraindicated (tautology lol). otoh, recommendations are only recommendations, and no one should feel like a bad mother if they'e using a bottle, imo.