rolling 2012 UKG interzone bubblers thread

vahid TBC i'm not having a go at you, more saying that possibly there are legitimate differences in aesthetic approach at work.

Anyone approaching this stuff from a pro-deepness angle is going to be disappointed.

no i know, this is issue is clearly more subtle than what you could figure out from a Monty Luke YouTube

rtc's most recent youtubes even considered all together probably overstate the role of bouncy house in this interzone I think (I assume for the purpose of teasing out that strand)?

I mean Q is typically housier than you'd expect from (say) his FACT mix, but this stuff is all intermingled with 2-step and grime and etc.

And the housey tunes sound different in that context than they do in another context - say, a Hot Creations DJ mix.

This goes back as well to what I was saying about the difference between normal eclecticism and the very specific kind of "golden thread" eclecticism which Q has (he's not unique in this regard - perhaps more the inverse of say a Moodymann).

You know what's really good? The Moda Black comp that features Celsius' "Must Be You" - more on a straight Hot Creations tip by and large but OMG at Hot SInce 82's "Knee Deep In Louise" and Lukas' "Best in Show".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM4-X7apPus

Oooh, "Jagged Edge" is pretty good. Vocal thing like on Tropical 2. I wish I could eat pizza though. I don't understand all the sub-classifications, but this thread usually has some stuff I like. (Meanwhile, the overwhelming bulk of electronic dance music does nothing for me. Started going through the 00s poll winners, the Spotify-available ones anyway, and as usual I find myself skipping a lot.)

all these ukg-friendly house tunes are fab! few more i'd like to add while we're at it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXh2g96QR-U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPj0ulwJJqA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGnt69GtSE

love the monty luke and eats everything tracks! can't really hear a deepness/bubbliness divide per se though.

the "bassline soldiers" track is amazing but i'm not sure about the vox at all, they seem...at odds

There's not necessarily a divide in the music. It's more the way different tunes take on different qualities in different contexts. If you're looking for deepness the the above house tunes sound underwhelming, adequate to the task rather than particularly well executed.

no it's more that i don't really know what you mean by "deepness" and "bubbliness" in this context

I think the real demarcation these days is less between abstract vs songful and more along production values lines.

This is where a distinction between say 1999 garage and 2001 garage really makes sense, the earlier stuff still retaining a kind of vinyl warmth and almost-"deepness" and the later stuff sounding like the contrast has been turned up - heavier but more plasticky beats, exaggerated bass but also exaggerated treble... a generalised air of hyperreality.

This (rather than pop vs abstraction or lightness vs heaviness) is probably the key point of distinction between "future garage" and the stuff that Q plays, only it's even more extreme now, future garage being "deep" to the point where it has to shun anything that might interfere with that, and the Q interzone retaining (albeit as a kind of reigning principle rather than a clearly defined sonic property) the sickly harshness of bassline.

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In this case sub in Vahid saying the house tunes rtc posted were also-ran copies of "Orbitalife" for jim saying Disclosure are also-ran copies of post-dubstep/future garage.

i didn't even know there was supposed to be a demarcation between '99 and '01 garage and i don't really understand that paragraph. this is why i don't write about instrumental dance music any more. (or read about it much either.) it just seems like splitting hairs ever finer.

Lex I had every faith and confidence that you would rise above the debate.

i consider it personal growth tbh

Bubbles.

SR Mix #144: Hot City [Moshi Moshi]

1. Unknown – Unknown
2. Walter Ego – Fruit Punch
3. DJ Shadow – I’m Excited Addison Groove Vegas Remix
4. Elmo – Extasey, LSD, Marijuana
5. Paul Sirrell – Overground
6. Joe Goddard: Gabriel Feat Valentina – Compound One Remix
7. Benz & Raukus Noise – Cut N Shut
8. Detriot B2B DJ Haus – Slip N Slide
9. Benz – Feel Dis Ting
10. Wafa – Booty
11. Hot City – 4 U
12. Hot City – Another Girl
13. Hot City – Sound Of The Club
14. DJ Q – Woo Riddim
15. Burga Boy – Rude Boy Booty

http://www.sonicrouter.com/2012/08/sr-mix-144-hot-city-moshi-moshi/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueX-_az4kBw

In which Disclosure, in a pincer move, annex both Schaffel and the territory previously occupied by Jamie Woon:

http://soundcloud.com/disclosuremusic/latch-ft-sam-smith

Sweet, love this.

Heads up: the Royal-T album is excellent.

I downloaded that this morning and am expecting a reliably bubbly commute home as a result.

very tempted to ask what your commute is so i can come watch your bubbly-anticipating face in person

It's basically like, say, his FACT mix from last year, only in album form.

i would have said it's much more of a serious piece than that mix was

calling it the music for the jilted generation to the mix's experience might be overstating it a touch but either way i havent been able to stop think of royal-t in terms of liam howlett this week

http://www.elasticartists.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/royalt_fingers-345x326.jpg

Hmmm yes okay - TBH I'd have to listen to the FACT mix to compare - I basically meant that, pleasingly, it's wall to wall straight bangers.

Music For The Jilted Generation is a nice point of comparison definitely! Though it makes me wish Royal-T had done a "suite" at the end.

ah right ok

is it not taken as given by now though that r-t only trades in bangers as such? within that however you can differentiate between the factmix's grime/butterz cheeky delinquency, the adult dance melangey/rinse of the album, maybe in addition even the crowdpleasing hardcore finesse-less punishing bosh of the newer mixes and radio shows (fat of the land?)

even still, 'music box', 'missing aurora'... probably his tenderest work

Yes but the history of dance music is littered with the bones of producers who only trade in bangers until their debut album.

Although that hasn't been the case for the album releases on Rinse (which deviation from the norm seems actually to have hurt the artists critically/commercially? Roska at least).

maybe in addition even the crowdpleasing hardcore finesse-less punishing bosh of the newer mixes and radio shows (fat of the land?)

haha, I think at this point the analogy gets a bit strained.

Yes but the history of dance music is littered with the bones of producers who only trade in bangers until their debut album.

Even if you could afford to I suspect that making a Rinse-branded album full of orchestras, whale noises and Hope Sandoval would be somewhat frowned upon by the people actually releasing yr record.

very tempted to ask what your commute is so i can come watch your bubbly-anticipating face in person

Had to push in front of a pregnant woman at one point because I really needed a sit down after the first three tracks. It can't quite keep that level up throughout, although the Ruby Lee Ryder track is excellent. Certainly darker than I'd expected although there's still a certain beat-em-up glee to the middle section that makes 'austere' not really the right word.

haha you honour this album with your none-more-grime actions

Actually, I was already sitting down at the start.

Back of the bus though.

no sodcast, no credibility

im totally devoted to sunship remixes the last couple of days

oh my god this royal-t and ruby lee ryder track >>>>>>>>>>>>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02nuD4qRKUk

SO MUCH FUN

i always feel like i'm missing a zillion football references when it comes to uk rappers though

Eww: It's the Ill Blu Hype Thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmeIZF8Eczo

this is imo, the hottest ruffest now-est record i can think of right now

the renascent mk is probably at the very centre of my nu-nu-interzone moodboard tbh

I am 100% down with the notion of UKG interzone bubbler remixes of Hot Creations etc but in this case that's only true if they remix out Ali Love.

xp like i hear that and think of the gabryelle refix

now i just need reality to back me up

yeah matt you say that but for instance how diff is ali love to say sampha on the 'living like i do' lil silva remix

these things are accepted now

haha yeah bad taste tuneless vocals only make it more real. And this is very awesome, gabrelle refix is a good ref pt.

Was startled to hear a jackin' remix of Tina Arena's "Chains" on that Nick Hannam dj mix Miko Mcha posted.

sampha's vocals have never been acceptable either

i <3 hot creations though, they're the only people permitted to use r&b samples now (it ensures ali love's absence at least)

http://www.1001tracklists.com/tracklist/17052_mk-mark-kinchen-mixmag-dj-lab-2012-08-03.html

forget what thread i should be on now but this set did it for me fwiw

also someone should send that 'cold as ice' thing to dj naughty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E9SlPOUsKA

this is a funny record (which dj q has played iirc?) all told, like why does it make sense to suddenly go from that to a skippy agent x riddim and back? yet, it does

shadow child is on that moda black comp, this is cool too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5wErTTo7UU

http://soundcloud.com/hot-creations/hotc026-a2-rockin-beats-shadow

oh and look he's remixed that mig campbell i just posted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmUj2KY9esM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_O9isiy2LU