slowdive: classic or dud?

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Horrible idea.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 August 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

always wanted to see them live, so i'm in favor even if it's a bad idea

Poliopolice, Thursday, 30 August 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

Bad idea?

Evan, Thursday, 30 August 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

A terrible idea. I've been saying as much here and elsewhere just now.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 August 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

Depends very much on Rachel's health I would have thought.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 30 August 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

what's wrong with her?

Poliopolice, Thursday, 30 August 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/metal/slowdive.jpg

also, i never noticed how attractive she was

Poliopolice, Thursday, 30 August 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

She had a rare inner ear infection but that was a few years ago now, no idea how she is these days

also, I always did

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 30 August 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

I hope Rachel remains healthy but does anyone have a realistic reason for not wanting the reunion? There certainly isn't one in Ned's link. I respect your opinion but if it had sway for any reason on whether they actually did reunite for some shows (is that all we're talking about or new material too?) than it would be incredibly unfair for some of us younger listeners that would love to have the chance to see them live.

Evan, Thursday, 30 August 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

not sure what your reasoning is, Ned - are you against reunions because they spoil the perfect memories?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 30 August 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

I'm starting to really hate this sense of entitlement, that people feel like they should have the chance to see a band live that they missed the first time round, as if the band somehow *owes* them a performance. It's one thing if a band really want another go, and a chance to revisit old ground - but I don't get the feeling from Neil that he wants that. "We're not going to be allowed not to reform" is not a good enough reason for them to do it. But I guess if his circles are getting smaller and smaller (and his records come out on bittier record labels) then it might be a financial decision.

My memories are that Slowdive weren't actually very good live, so it's not as if I don't want them pissing all over treasured memories or anything. I just don't see why they *should* and I am starting to have a lot more respect for bands that say "nah, we're done with that" and don't go back.

my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 30 August 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

Well I did see Slowdive, several times, and I remember their shows being absolutely stunning. So I don't have any sense of entitlement, I would simply like to experience that joy and elation again.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 30 August 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

I just feel like, if they don't want to, it should be their choice, not yours.

my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 30 August 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

Well, of course it will. That "we won't be allowed not to" sounds like it was said with a wry smile on his face. No-one is going to be holding a gun to their heads. Even if they get offered silly money to do it, it's up to them.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 30 August 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

Well, I'm not personally dragging Neil back to Slowdive and I don't feel like I deserve to see them live, and I can't speak for anyone that may be pushing him in that direction. I didn't say they "should" but if they are anyway, but I would be upset if someone talked them out of it. Unless doing it actually harms them in some way.

Evan, Thursday, 30 August 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

WCC you may be reading into "We're not going to be allowed not to reform" a bit. It seems more likely that it is their choice rather than some crazy scenario where they are "forced" into it.

Evan, Thursday, 30 August 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

***delete ", but" from that sentence***

Evan, Thursday, 30 August 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

I heard someone was going to murder their families unless they took the show on the road.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 30 August 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

I heard a bunch of people in their 20s sent Pam Berry death threats unless she finally played live with Black Tambourine. She certainly didn't want to for years.

Evan, Thursday, 30 August 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i mean jesus, it's really skewed thinking to imagine fans going along to a show feeling a sense of "entitlement", like the band is finally paying off a debt. maybe they're just happy and grateful to hear the songs they love performed live.

charlie h, Thursday, 30 August 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

The worst thing that can happen is that a lot of people spend some good money to see a half-hearted performance. It may diminish their legacy/magic temporarily if they totally suck for some reason, but everyone who attends would be more likely to be super super grateful to have the opportunity to have seen them anyway.

Evan, Thursday, 30 August 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

Musing on seeing the Halstead show in Brooklyn. Anyone know if he'll have a band w/him?

kwhitehead, Thursday, 30 August 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

Demanding they don't go on tour because of a suspicion of their motives is not that much less born of self entitlement as demanding they go on tour because you would like to see them?

I think they're grown ups who can choose for themselves what they want to do (shit, maybe they just want to make a bunch of money, but is that a reason to stop them either?)

formerly EDB (ed.b), Thursday, 30 August 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

but ... my memories!

tylerw, Thursday, 30 August 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

For the life of me I could swear I once saw Slowdive open up for someone more or less unrelated, like Belly or Luna. Is that possible?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

Hmm, guess not, Looks like they toured the US with Cranes, Catherine Wheel ...

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

yep, saw that Slowdive/Cranes double header at the Grand in London, an inspired pairing.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

Well, also reading stuff into the fact that he doesn't play Slowdive material and refuses requests, etc.

Also, "market forces" vs "what band members really want to do" is not always an unloaded choice.

But, y'know, who am I to stand in the way of a bunch of people reliving their youth.

my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

It's not about reliving one's youth, it's about hearing the music live again! Because it's good!

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 30 August 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, the Velvets really sucked when I saw them in '93, but I've never once wished they hadn't done it or I hadn't seen them.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 30 August 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

I was born in 1988, I'm reliving nothing.

formerly EDB (ed.b), Thursday, 30 August 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

hahahaha great revive

2x hockey sticks (blank), Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

"please don't"

2x hockey sticks (blank), Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

Slowdive is head and shoulders above almost all other shoegazer bands, though maybe just a head above medicine, and a head and half a shoulder above MBV.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

With that, this thread revive is officially not Ned friendly.

Evan, Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

well, i'd say that MBV is a good torso and genitals above the next best shoegaze band.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

Then Ride be just below the sack?

Evan, Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

OK, you and sense just clearly parted company a long time ago.

x-post

my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

I went through a huge shoegaze phase, and discovered that most of these jokers are terrible-- Ride included.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

You know who I'm gonna ask first, when it come to an opinion on what the best shoegaze bands are?

Someone who ~doesn't like shoegaze~

Yup, that'll work.

my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

was anyone here saying they were entitled to a slowdive reunion, or any other reunion? has anyone actually ever felt entitled to that kind of thing? is there a possible scenario where slowdive are in any way being forced to do this, or is it more likely that they want some $$? and is anyone here being forced to go watch them cash in on nostalgia for a few shows, other than professional music critics who are tasked to attend by their bosses?

just let them reunite and suck! jeezus

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

for 2 years i sat there and pretended shit like pale saints, ride, swervedriver, and chapterhouse wasn't total crap, but eventually i saw the light. xp

Poliopolice, Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

just let them reunite and suck! jeezus

Hey, stop FORCING Slowdive to reunite, already!

formerly EDB (ed.b), Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

i work hard, i pay my taxes, i love my family ... i deserve a slowdive reunion!

tylerw, Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

http://i46.tinypic.com/1zo9kdi.jpg

"alright, listen here Neil Halstead. you're going to play Catch the Breeze, you're going to play more transcendentally than you've ever played, and you're going to like it, you hear me??"

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

^would see that show

ayonanas (Matt P), Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

play machine gun or you get a machine gun in your face, halstead.

tylerw, Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

just let them reunite and suck! jeezus

There would be other kinds of protests as a result.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 August 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

hahahaha

well it is true that i haven't considered the second-order consequences of a reunion

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Thursday, 30 August 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

Neighbors say the masked gunman was a normal guy that just loved his family. "Times are tough, but sometimes when you can't get the guitar bliss you feel like you earned, especially in this economy, well I guess some people just snap"

Evan, Thursday, 30 August 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link


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