I would love to hear a remix of the friendly fires remix that was about 45 minutes long.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 25 January 2009 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I wish I'd been rickrolled. Brian Wilson is rolling in his grave.
― Owen Pallett, Monday, 26 January 2009 06:40 (fifteen years ago) link
perhaps it should have more gratuitous string sections
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Monday, 26 January 2009 07:05 (fifteen years ago) link
lol!
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 26 January 2009 08:51 (fifteen years ago) link
i louche music
― tricky, Monday, 26 January 2009 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Monday, January 26, 2009 7:05 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark
Care to elaborate?
― Owen Pallett, Monday, 26 January 2009 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link
i want 2 kno why u think brian wilson is rolling in his grave
― max, Monday, 26 January 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link
ya what is that in reference to?
oh i guess the god only knows thing?
― s1ocki, Monday, 26 January 2009 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link
brain wilson hasnt got a grave
― Dont Try An Help Me I Dont Need Help Anymore Leave Me Alone (Dave from Norwich), Monday, 26 January 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
one of many problems with owens story
― max, Monday, 26 January 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
warm up records you played before electrohouse in 2004
you say that like it's a bad thing
no amount of incredulity is spinning that into being a good thing...
― Local Garda, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link
The Friendly Fires remix is real cool, sure, but that God Only Knows thing is bloody awful. The semiotics side of my brain says this remix is exploitive of the listener's nostalgia, like having Tom Cruise appear in Tropic Thunder---->not funny. The corny music-school side of my brain hates the fact that the remix gets the chords wrong.
― Owen Pallett, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link
that sounds like the two worst half-brains i could ever imagine
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Monday, 26 January 2009 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link
i think u picked the wrong thread to be a h8r
― max, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link
― max, Monday, January 26, 2009 7:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
Uh, yeah. I thought this board was mostly troll-free.
― Owen Pallett, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link
lol are you butthurt that you popped into a thread to make an offhanded one-line comment about a song and then people zinged you right back?
― max, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link
fwiw i think his comment w/r/t tom cruise and chord changes was interesting, it's just that having to hang around with a semiotician and a music school nerd all day in yr head sounds like a recipe for suicide
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Monday, 26 January 2009 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link
― max, Monday, January 26, 2009 7:13 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark
No.
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Monday, January 26, 2009 7:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
Tell me about it, I'm in therapy.
― Owen Pallett, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.bluntpencil.com/Rodney-Dangerfield.gif
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Monday, 26 January 2009 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link
fuck therapy, take acid and listen to Aeroplane
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link
wait is there a version of the god only knows remix people are hearing besides the youtube one?
― gr8080, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link
i made an mp3 out of the god only knows edit from the podcast gbx found
god only knows (aeroplane rmx) - beach boys
― eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Saturday, December 27, 2008 5:30 PM (4 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― max, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link
i dont know if you want to listen to it tho, it exploits the listener's nostalgia, and gets the chords wrong
am i going to like that if i a) love aeroplane, b) really, really hate - like, nails-on-blackboard hate - the beach boys original?
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link
i dunno it will be an interesting experimetn!!!!! u should liveblog it!
― max, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link
that is a u+k a & b if i ever read one
xp haha
― tricky, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link
it sounds like it would mix into Personal Jesus or some other schaffle? type track
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah it was the "warm-up" thing that riled me a bit - you've said that three or four times now about Balearic/disco stuff and I don't get it. Sort of... judging fairly unabashed pop-disco by the standards of techno, or something? It brings out the same sort of reaction in me as when people turned up on minimal threads back in the day to go "why isn't this banging like Green Velvet or Pendulum?"
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link
with mattdc here, ronan. aeroplane sound sufficiently warmed up to me.
― andrew m., Monday, 26 January 2009 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost. Ah, the famous Dog Latin gambit. This minimal is not good because it's not as banging as Fat of the Land.
― Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Monday, 26 January 2009 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm not judging it by the standards of techno, I just think it sounds like something that was done already, I can't see what new things this brings to the table esp as a really big populist sound. It reminds me of electrohouse in 2004/2005, in places, but whatever's been added (not sure, pop?) and whatever's been taken away (house/techno/trance/nubeat) it's just not my own thing, and I really have tried.
I mean Aeroplane actually kind of remind me of Mylo more than anyone, in that the stuff is not particularly well produced but is full of pop hooks. I'm not anti-pop either, just this stuff makes me mainly feel disappointed with where electroclash/electrohouse went.
I also feel italo has been way overmined and I'm bored of it by now. Maybe others feel this way about house but so be it.
Plus I still think, and I've said this before, that there are disco clubs in London where you go there and the revival of the same ultra poppy sounds has been going on so long it feels like what a bad bar must have been like back in the day.
― Local Garda, Monday, 26 January 2009 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link
but I am still mystified as to how popular Aeroplane are and hence my kvetching above...like WHY NOW? is populist dance music really just as lacking in new movements as the closest underground variations?
― Local Garda, Monday, 26 January 2009 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Some of it reminds me of the Ratface Dreamangel "Fired Down" stuff... that is, early 90s dance 45s played at 33 rpm.
― Owen Pallett, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link
...in that the stuff is not particularly well produced...
lol
― tropical beards of paradise (san frandisco), Monday, 26 January 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
i had stayed off this thread as 1) i didn't want to rain on the parade and 2) their manager is a very good friend of mine so i feel i should be supportive, but ronan just nailed exactly how i feel about them in his mylo referencing post. i had started to think i was the only one as everyone i know seems to be aeroplane mad at the moment. i love their grace jones remix but most of the rest has this horrible digital sheen that hurts my ears. their production actually makes me feel kind of nauseous.
― stirmonster, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link
have you heard the aeroplane/caramellas 12"
― tropical beards of paradise (san frandisco), Monday, 26 January 2009 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm not trying to say everything they do is godly, and i think those kind of statements are easy to tear down, but the fact is they are one of the most exciting nu balearica acts out there... and their production while simple is beautifully meticulous. for a while i was afraid they were becoming more and more formulaic but the sebastien tellier and grace jones remixes have upset the mold they were constructing for themselves with a few of their remixes just before that
― tropical beards of paradise (san frandisco), Monday, 26 January 2009 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link
i have or have heard everything they have done except for the tellier remix.
― stirmonster, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link
i hope i die b4 i get old
― max, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link
me 2
― tropical beards of paradise (san frandisco), Monday, 26 January 2009 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link
you think?
― stirmonster, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link
im just kidding. i sort of hate the "hasnt this all been done before" argument tho.
― max, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link
i have a brooding fear that all this nu disco and nu balearica which has gotten me into dance music will fade away in the next 2 years and then ill be one of the guys saying it was so much better back when...
― tropical beards of paradise (san frandisco), Monday, 26 January 2009 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link
it was never better back when...
just different.
the future has yet to disappoint.
― stirmonster, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link
I wouldn't normally trot out that argument, and obv there's a diff since I liked the "before" stuff. But that said in this case what Aeroplane reminds me of does feel very recent. Plus this does feel v similar to me to the 2004/2005 stuff. This wouldn't surprise or bother me in the slightest except these guys are huge.
I guess also as I said, the lifecycle of electrohouse/electroclash/indiedance since 2004/2005 is pretty grim to me, once there was no trace of house/techno left it all became hugely popular.
― Local Garda, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link
i like everything i've heard by them and i'm definitely a casual dance fan, so i don't really care what originality they're bringing to the table or where they stand in the narrative of dance music (i still don't really know what balearic is, you guys).
but to my ears they have a really good sense for hooks and for structure, and they're a lot warmer and more live-sounding than most of the dance music i happen on.
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 26 January 2009 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link
wouldn't surprise or bother me in the slightest except these guys are huge
maybe there's a US/Europe split on this thread then because I feel like they're barely known over here and maybe that changes the perception. I mean yeah if they played New York there'd be some buzz but not OMG HYPE
xp
― dmr, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I dunno, it feels to me like this is exactly the right time for something like Aeroplane to appear, because it's been a really lean few years for maximalist melodic dance music. I've been saying for a while that it's good to have something again that feels big without being lairy, maybe that quality was what was lost around 2005 when electrohouse faded and noisy Erolclash took over (or minimal, if you're looking the other way, but I'm trying to keep minimal out of this debate).
The Tellier remix was the first one when I thought Aeroplane were drifting too close to electrohouse - if anything I want dancefloor-friendly new Balearic to resemble 2002-era Take Me With You house. Aeroplane's best stuff does that, they have a real feel for a hook - speaking as someone who prefers the Das Pop/Cobra Dukes/Caramellas end of their sound to the Grace Jones/Tellier end.
(xpost - is the hype really happening anywhere outside ILM?)
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link
ha, i was gunna say the same thing, cuz they are by no means HUGE in the US. i don't even think they've done a single set here
― tropical beards of paradise (san frandisco), Monday, 26 January 2009 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link
(I think a parallel shift might be happening with funky, steps back to pop after a few years of moody or aggro post-garage sounds).
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link