http://inrng.com/2012/08/lance-armstrong-quits/
― your own personal cheeses (haitch), Friday, 24 August 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
That Jonathan Vaughters interview was great. Thanks.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 August 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
Nike are standing by him but I wonder if anyone is going to try and reclaim prize money or sponsorship; then it would go to court.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed),
the inrng article says:
If USADA rules there is a doping offence, imposes a lifetime ban and says he should be stripped of his wins then this applies worldwide. It is then for the UCI, as cycling’s governing body, to await the decision and issue the formal notice stripping Armstrong of his wins which it must do to comply with the WADA Code. All prize monies must be repaid too.
They can't go after sponsorships, but whatever thousands/millions he won as prize money he has to repay. Damn.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 August 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
"But I snorted it all up my nose oh wait."
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
I wonder what % of his income went to doping & trying to beat doping tests?
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 August 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
I'm surprised this hasn't been used more:
https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%23quitstrong
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 August 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
There's still the SCA Promotions case
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12122/SCA-Promotions-will-monitor-USADA-case-against-ArmstrongUS-Postal-Service.aspx
xposts
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 24 August 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
have never followed Lance and his "sport" (a race where you get off the bike a few times to sleep, riiiight) but anything to stop singling out baseball is fine.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 August 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
fuck baseball
― am0n, Friday, 24 August 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I'm fine if regular idiots stop following it and join yr club
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 August 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, August 24, 2012 10:54 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
huge lol at the idea that baseball has been "singled out" as the dopingest sport that ever doped when a) no one outside of america gives a shit and b) the peloton was doing PEDs when you were still a regularly-aged person. the notion that baseball is the locus of bad behavior is exclusively american; cycling has had a publicly bad rep w/r/t doping for at least 20 years
― catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 24 August 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
I speak of America, man, furrin sportz make my eyes glaze over.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 August 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_cycling
1886!
― Michael Jones, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
glaze over, like an idiot
― am0n, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
x-post
a regularly-aged person
― curmudgeon, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
idk obviously i have no interest in cycling but.....presumably this dude was quite good as riding bicycles anyway? so that he would still have had at least some success if he didn't use drugs? it's an interesting example of unbridled venality
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
In 1886 an English cyclist is popularly reputed to have died after drinking a blend of cocaine, caffeine and strychnine, supposedly in the Bordeaux–Paris race.
which one (1) of these ingredients might not have been well chosen
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
Surprised that LeMond has had the good sense to stay quiet on this.
― hot slag (lukas), Friday, 24 August 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
But the Raiders have a new dude on defense called HeiNACHO which I mean, how can that not be good :D
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He probably never wins a Tour, which would mean he'd be basically anonymous in America.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
oh i'm pretty sure he's just savoring it xp
― catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 24 August 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
idk obviously i have no interest in cycling but.....presumably this dude was quite good as riding bicycles anyway? so that he would still have had at least some success if he didn't use drugs?
I have no interest in or knowledge of the sport (or any for that matter) and my attitude to doping has always been that it's just where modern science has taken us and it's dumb to ban it. But that interview linked upthread by haitch was very interesting and informative. About halfway through he explains why legalized doping is a bad idea and why having all of the athletes doping doesn't actually create a level playing field.
― wk, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
If they couldn't produce a bad test in 2009 then it's either not possible or Armstrong was clean. Because he was tested constantly that year--both at home, while training, on the racecourse, both announced and unannounced. And they still have those blood samples. He was tested far more than any other cyclist that year.
And if he was clean that year, then his racing was astounding for someone his age.
― dandydonweiner, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
yeah sadly this is going to demolish Armstong's reputation, but doping or no, doing all this while passing a zillion drug tests is still pretty impressive
― frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
that JV interview is fantastic
― catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 24 August 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
there is nothing sad and everything hilarious about lance armstrong being stripped of 7 tour titles imo.
― omar little, Friday, 24 August 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
Yup.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
i don't know how i'll feel when my ipod tells me "i'm lance armstrong and that was your longest run yet!". ha!
― jed_, Friday, 24 August 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
Surprised that LeMond has had the good sense to stay quiet on this.― hot slag (lukas), Friday, 24 August 2012 11:19 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― hot slag (lukas), Friday, 24 August 2012 11:19 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Cathy LeMond Tweeted one word: "Finally"
yeah sadly this is going to demolish Armstong's reputation, but doping or no, doing all this while passing a zillion drug tests is still pretty impressive― frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2012 11:39 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2012 11:39 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I don't know why it is sad that this will destroy lance's reputation, he was cheat in an era of cheats and his rubber band racket cancer "charity" is a self aggrandising sham. I am astounded that Nike haven't dropped his sorry arse but they say his brand is bigger than cycling.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 25 August 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
Betsy Andreu was much less circumspect
http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/article/2012/08/24/betsy-andreu-lance-armstrong-a-ramene-le-sport-a-l-epoque-de-la-rda_1751099_3242.html
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 25 August 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
"yeah I'm fine if regular idiots stop following it and join yr club"
if regular idiots stopped following baseball there wouldn't be a baseball. or a football. or a basketball. or a hockey.
― scott seward, Saturday, 25 August 2012 00:57 (eleven years ago) link
yeah and i'm pretty sure as long as there are ways to cheat there will be ways to get around the testing somehow. and i feel like he's been using the charity as a reputation shield in recent years.
― omar little, Saturday, 25 August 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
"I am astounded that Nike haven't dropped his sorry arse "
this will happen within a couple of weeks, i imagine?
― jed_, Saturday, 25 August 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/sports/cycling/lance-armstrong-retains-support-of-nike-and-other-companies.html
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 25 August 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i dunno -- i've a sense that stripping him many years later when he hasn't admitted anything won't sway the non-cycling public all that much.
if ppl liked him (like andy pettitte) they'll continue to; if ppl hated him (like barry bonds) they'll continue to.
i imagine that most americans are like, dude won a really hard foreign commie sport a bunch of times where everyone else was doping too -- big deal
― mookieproof, Saturday, 25 August 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
fuck him if he can't be bothered to show up in court anymore, not the type of petulant quitter move i expect from a man who can beat testicle cancer and the alps five times.
well, he'll always have LIVESTRONG and anna's teat to comfort himself on
― the late great, Saturday, 25 August 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGtfpzT4Lqw
― buzza, Saturday, 25 August 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
snap
― the late great, Saturday, 25 August 2012 02:09 (eleven years ago) link
rip juan pelota
― catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 25 August 2012 02:48 (eleven years ago) link
http://cavalierfc.tumblr.com/post/30172302298/its-not-about-the-bike
― I've been to Suffolk (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
Good history in podcast form
http://velocastcc.squarespace.com/race-radio/2012/8/27/lance-armstrong-special-edition.html
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
why do people hate him again? what's this 'cartel' ish
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
read that link, it's right there
― catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
(a race where you get off the bike a few times to sleep, riiiight)
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, August 24, 2012 11:54 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i know right, you dont see baseball players all sleeping between games and shit
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks for that Balls, Wheels, Doping article.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
I am astounded that Nike haven't dropped his sorry arse but they say his brand is bigger than cycling.
They still sponsor Tiger Woods? Nike doesn't have a problem with sketchy people if they think they're still capable of generating them some cash.
― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
i bood lance when he ran the ny marathon B-)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
Nike doesn't have a problem with sketchy people if they think they're still capable of generating them some cash.
^substitute any corporation for Nike above.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
i think nike ENJOYS promoting reviled/disgraced mega-athletes
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
they prob consider it an engaging challenge for their marketing apparatus
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
like whats exactly the right tone for his comeback ad
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link