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lol

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

my fav normism is when sam asks him what he'll have and norm goes "a reason to live - keep em comin." the audience didnt even laugh, i think they were just unsettled by it

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

TBH, I probably would've voted Frasier, but the spinoff killed that joke pretty fast for me.

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

but frasier on his own show was a different character!

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

how so?

Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

i had no idea nick and loret-ta got their own spinoff

mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

he was more the straight man, niles was the frasier of 'Frasier'

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

frasier & lilith were such a power combo that its hard to vote for one individually. lilith's 1st & 2nd appearances are so great

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, voting Lilith solves that problem, doesn't it?

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

bebe neuwirth is just the greatest

some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, the Frasier/Lilith team is genius.

he was more the straight man, niles was the frasier of 'Frasier'

Sort of agree with this, in that Niles is the magnification of the already OTT Frasier character: more prissy, more class-conscious, more neurotic etc. I don't see Frasier as being different on his own show, though, just more fleshed-out. I think he's a very well-written, well-played character in both.

I think I've gotten the most flat-out laughs from Woody, but it's definitely a textbook example of ensemble comedy where every piece works. It took me a while to appreciate the Rebecca character, and I still don't think she ever reached the heights Diane did (that "Un Film de Diane Chambers" still cracks me up just thinking about it) but somewhere along the line Kirstie Alley fit in.

Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

yeah MANCHILD IN BEANTOWN will never not be funny

Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

Diane for her delivery of the line "You are a sand flea."

Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

remember when Shelley Long came back and had apparently forgotten how to play Diane? ;_;

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

also...

People, people. No mentions of Sam "Mayday" Malone. Seriously? Danson just kills on this show.

― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:43 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, danson is the man. ive always loved me some danson. sam's a great character, probably too easy to take for granted since he was always there. he did become a bit more buffoonish post-long

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

Shelley Long's birthday is tomorrow.

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

I was so skeptical of Danson doing drama after seeing him do comedy for so long but he kind of nailed it on Damages

your native bacon (mh), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

not that i'm gonna go out of my way to see how he is on CSI but there was a point a while back where he was appearing on Damages, Bored To Death and Curb Your Enthusiasm around the same time and it was like damn this guy has really aged into a nice post-Cheers career

some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

I was so skeptical of Danson doing drama after seeing him do comedy for so long but he kind of nailed it on Damages

http://content7.flixster.com/photo/10/94/95/10949557_gal.jpg

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

Ted Danson as Ted Danson was always one of my favorite Curb characters and it makes me sad that hes not on the show more

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

The wiki entry for "Cliff Clavin" was evidently written by someone only passingly familiar with English:

Cliff does not have an on-screen relationship with any woman. He attempts every woman but becomes rejected.

Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

"only passingly"? cmon, that's high level esl ;)

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

Ratzenberger requested an addition of a know-it-all character, which resulted Cliff Clavin. Ratzenberger made each of guest appearances as Cliff Clavin in Wings and Frasier.

Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

During high school I had a job working in an office mail room. Every day I'd collect all the mail for the office and walk it up to the post office. Invariably I'd run into this one kid from school who'd always say something like (in a strong Boston accent) "hey, it's Cliff Clavin!"

So I guess I'm voting for Cliff.

Moodles, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

he did become a bit more buffoonish post-long

sam was smart at the very beginning, but they made him dumber

mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

Am I the only one here who had never read the stories of Woody Harrelson's father the hit man?

Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

I mean I had no idea, not sure how I missed this.

Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

Certainly adds depth to the actor, for sure.

your native bacon (mh), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

coach barely over diane over sam over frasier w/ woody a slightly more distant fifth

balls, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

btw best sitcom all time

balls, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

better than cosby?

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

cosby show

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

by 1,000,000 miles

ʘ (sic), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

love cosby but that's probably not even top ten for me

balls, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

i don't know how, but i have never ever watched this show

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

xp me neither but i always thought of you as a cos diehard for some reason

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

off top of my head i got cheers up top, seinfeld and larry sanders right below that, and then sgt bilko, dick van dyke, mary tyler moore, bob newhart, andy griffith, barney miller, and something i'm obviously forgetting. my mind is telling me arrested development but my body my body's telling me petticoat junction.

balls, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

haha i was kinda surprised that youd be a huge cosby fan for some reason! (xp)

ive been thinking about this all day and im gonna vote diane

bob newhart

this shit is all time - rest of yr list is terribad tho

Lamp, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

sorry it's terribad bro

balls, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

if your body is telling you petticoat junction you have more to worry about than my opinion of yr taste in sitcoms

Lamp, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

take your seinfeld-hating to another thread, lamp.

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link

i dont hate seinfeld!

Lamp, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

I kinda do

Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

lamp got me - i like white women yall :(

balls, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

lamp what's yr top ten? flight of the conchords #1, then what?

balls, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link

flight of the conchords is a good show, they have funny songs that are parodies of other, less funny, songs

Lamp, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

I can't even think of 10 sitcoms I like or would be willing to sit through regularly, much less which ones are "best". Apart from the Larry Sanders Show, I guess.

Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link

Golden Girls and Cheers are pretty consistently funny

Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGpX8qUs1Ng

quite possibly my favorite youtube vid ever

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

seinfeld's my no. 1 easily, with the honeymooners a close second.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

it's pretty wild looking back and realizing that trans jokes were about as acceptable back in the day as, i don't know, hitler jokes. like it's so ubiquitous that a lot of it i forgot about and had to be reminded of. i did know about cheers because... i think when i was a kid and was learning the piano i had a book of sheet music to tv themes and it had the complete lyrics in there. then i forgot about it until i was talking with this zoomer i know who's obsessed with '70s and '80s sitcoms and idolizes vicki lawrence in "mama's family" and she mentioned it and i was just like oh shit, i forgot about that bit.

the thing is that kind of thing was just so _routine_ and _unexceptional_. it's really bizarre looking back on it, because this shit was just, like, normal when i was growing up. i definitely feel that "between two worlds" thing sometimes. maybe it's that way for a lot of trans people of whatever generation... i don't know!

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 21 January 2024 02:34 (two months ago) link

Yeah, it seems nearly impossible to dip into just about any '80s entertainment and not risk getting blindsided by a (as it turns out not so) random joke at trans people's expense. There's even a nasty little moment at the end of a S7 Golden Girls episode that feels like a total sop to the shittiness of that era.

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Sunday, 21 January 2024 02:42 (two months ago) link

Yeah, it seems nearly impossible to dip into just about any '80s entertainment and not risk getting blindsided by a (as it turns out not so) random joke at trans people's expense. There's even a nasty little moment at the end of a S7 Golden Girls episode that feels like a total sop to the shittiness of that era.

― badpee pooper (Eric H.)

like i was watching... one of the weird things i do is watch tapes of old HBO between-movie interstitials from back in the day from, like, maybe 1984, and there's a promo for the news parody show they had, if you remember, it was called "not necessarily the news", and they had a joke to the effect that boy george was starting a finishing school for BOYS who wanted to be GIRLS! comedy gold i'm sure

i mean boy george isn't even a woman, just a guy who presents more on the femme side of things. god forbid anybody would be able to tell the difference between gender identity and presentation in those days, tho, lol just like. everything was so fucked up and i had no idea.

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 21 January 2024 03:17 (two months ago) link

you have your work cut out for you

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 January 2024 05:46 (two months ago) link


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