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If I like books I hang on to them, so yeah! I got it for yer average second hand price, £5 inc postage. There's plenty on abebooks.com from US sellers.

Is elementary particles any good?

ledge, Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

terrible cover though (of the golden space). "hmm the characters have young bodies but are really old. i will draw a young person with a really old hand."

ledge, Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

it was the era of MJ tbf

anyway just ordered it along w/ the inevitable first of enginer summer (happy b day to me)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/02/EngineSummer.jpg

the late great, Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

i plan to get that. i know you compared it to the book of the new sun and we er didn't react in the same way to that, but i'm still intrigued.

ledge, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

xp yes the sci fi chapters are good, death by anal parts not so much

kinda like the sci fi version of irreversible or something

the late great, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

it's the backwards of new sun and anyway i think the comparison is obvious

the late great, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

not to say you're not picking up on the obvious but

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7c/Wolfe_shadow_%26_claw.jpg/200px-Wolfe_shadow_%26_claw.jpg

the late great, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

contenderizer should read that engine summer one as should all the other "science of mind" goons

the late great, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

really enjoying roadside picnic. anyone read that geoff dyer book about stalker etc?

harry harrison was a g, bill the galactic hero and its many sequels were major for young me.

adam, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I remember being hooked on the DEATH WORLD books
http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1327944642l/2037559.jpg http://spire.ee/shop/images/harry_harrisson___deathworld_2.jpg http://spire.ee/shop/images/harry_harrisson___deathworld_3.jpg

Really liked A TRANSATLANTIC TUNNEL, HURRAH, too

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Monday, 20 August 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link

how is this just not the same as xanth

the late great, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not defending then now, i hasten to add, but 12yo had different standards, and endless killer aliens pretty much met them

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 03:39 (eleven years ago) link

This is the only HH i can recall reading. Proper YA stuff and funny with it, still really holds up.

http://childrensbookshop.com/images/bookimages/80/80722.jpg

ledge, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 08:10 (eleven years ago) link

is this stuff funny HAW HAW like xanth and bill galactic hero or is it just snicker funny like roald dahl

the late great, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 08:11 (eleven years ago) link

a mordant wit that should appeal to teenage cynics of all ages.

ledge, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 08:13 (eleven years ago) link

hm

did he do stainless steel rat?

that sort of fatalism?

the late great, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 08:14 (eleven years ago) link

if i had read SSR maybe i could tell you. but i wouldn't call it fatalistic, the heroes are good guys and they win in the end.

just reading about xanth and ... what?

Visual access to underwear - Because underwear is so closely tied to sexuality (even more so than nudity in Xanth), men become automatically "freaked out" when they view panties. This is made a common joke, most prominently in the novel The Color of Her Panties

ledge, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 08:21 (eleven years ago) link

xanth is for retards

stainless steel rate was the bomb, i forgot how good that series was

i always confused harrison with david drake which is odd

bill the galactic hero is DIRE though

the late great, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 08:24 (eleven years ago) link

can we get an update on what epub and mobi readers people are using for ipad? bookman? anything better?

the late great, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 08:27 (eleven years ago) link

can we get an update on what epub and mobi readers people are using for ipad? bookman? anything better?

calibre?

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 08:56 (eleven years ago) link

I'm reading (whispers) Stephen Baxter's new novel, Wheel of Ice, which is a Doctor Who novel

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 08:57 (eleven years ago) link

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kEj9hrJkWBs/TkApdG8pQyI/AAAAAAAAU2Y/aJSjkQVWN9Y/s320/Sidgwick-98125+Simak+Out+of+Their+Minds.jpg

Clifford D Simak - Out Of Their Minds.
Surprisingly pointless really, started off heading in the direction of Philip K Dick but ended up as a jocular fantastical comedy novel. I'm guessing he banged this one out pretty quickly. Maybe I'll try Way Station, if that's no good I'll give up on the guy.

don't slip in mud (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

Have you read City? Think that's generally considered one of his best.

dow, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

nice cover tho

the late great, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

i prefer bookman to calibre on ipad. am i missing something?

the late great, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

Never used Bookman, so I'm not sure what it's capable of. Calibre lets you change formats, covers, metadata, etc easily, and with a couple of add-ons will bust DRM, etc, for ebooks from anywhere.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

hmm it's on ipad?

the late great, Thursday, 23 August 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

A book on my shelf twenty years before I read it: The Howling Man, short stories by Charles Beaumont. Title tale (later a Twilight Zone script, like several of these, most even better in the original) is the one about a traveler in bad weather, who stops at a monastery. Very hospitable to him, but why is that poor gentle man locked away? The traveler is increasingly troubled--he's also the first-person narrator, a nice, humble guy himself, which often means trouble up ahead, when a oh-so-non-literary, nice li'l narrator also has to convey the anxious spoon-feeding exposition and underscoring of the "literary"-as-fuck author. But this narrator, tortured by his conscience and his fear, his certainty, has obsessively drawn himself into hard-learned, self-taught eloquence, right from the beginning. How often does this happen?!
Beaumont was Hollywood king of the killer opening, though some of these come off too slick. And his sardonic-to-macabre humor , though often agreeable, even empathetic, could shade into something more repellent--misogyny, for instance: slick and shallow and sincere. Seems, according to William F Nolan's intro, that he came from some kind of boondocks gothic situation (orig name: Charles Nutt, a prodigy with sev. false starts before he made it, still youing, as a writer). A bit like Saki, H.H. Munro, whose sister confirmed that the aunts who raised them could be sadisict. Dunno about Nutt/Beaumont's alibi, but in any case, you could say the last laugh was on him: he died of Alzheimer's at age 38.
As Nolan tells it, he was a complex person, mercurial, but close and considerate to his wife, kids, and friends, with great enthusiasm beyond or along with the facility. I'd even like to read his damn car books! Also need to check out some of the b-movies he scripted, fairly well-known but not to me.

dow, Thursday, 23 August 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

nice

the late great, Thursday, 23 August 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

Was just listening to a long Harlan Ellison interview and he namechecked Beaumont a couple times. Need to investigate...

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 23 August 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

hmm it's on ipad?

I've not used the ipad version, but it is available: http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq.html#id28

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Friday, 24 August 2012 02:44 (eleven years ago) link

elizabeth hand! don't think i know her. seems like my kinda gal.

scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link

i like that gene wolfe reissue cover too. i do kinda like the idea of tricking people into reading sf. i know it shouldn't matter, but the best books deserve classy covers.

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/04/24/peacetorbook_270x405.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 03:17 (eleven years ago) link

and i want those le guin collections when they come out.

scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 03:18 (eleven years ago) link

i swear the comments on that site read like one person who is getting paid to write comments. new culture? i am so there. hot diggity. going on my amazon wishlist. booyah!

scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 03:25 (eleven years ago) link

Peace isn't science fiction, but it is prime Wolfe. Yeah, the cover is great too, the title and its graphic over the rest of that=Wolfe as hell.

dow, Friday, 24 August 2012 04:18 (eleven years ago) link

A new Culture novel is always grounds for major celebration

http://evanlaar2012.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/celebration2010.jpg

ledge, Friday, 24 August 2012 08:14 (eleven years ago) link

not sci fi?

iin't the culture kinda goofy? like delany meets lensman written by a spastic like niven (best) or brin (worst)

the late great, Friday, 24 August 2012 09:01 (eleven years ago) link

it's absolutely goofy, yeah. but super fun and my idea of a utopia so i'm always happy to spend time there. and banks is a perfectly decent writer iirc.

ledge, Friday, 24 August 2012 09:13 (eleven years ago) link

i'm reminded of how good a writer banks is in general every time i read an alastair reynolds

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 24 August 2012 10:36 (eleven years ago) link

that's fighting talk.

second acclarke novel of the week just turned up from amazon - hammer of god on wednesday, childhood's end today. both mentioned in some (slashdot?) list of sf with unhappy endings.

koogs, Friday, 24 August 2012 10:48 (eleven years ago) link

i aways mean to read more banks. i've only read the non-sf ones and the bridge. the bridge is kinda sf. sorta.

scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link

Whatever Peace is, might be a good time for me to re-read it, having finally gotten to A Visit From the Goon Squad, The City and The City, and 2626 this year. Egan, Mieville, and Bolano are in the SF Encyclopeida Online. Also, from John Clute's massive entry re Wolfe (stopping before possible spoilers, although w Wolfe it's sure not just what happens but the way he tells or doesn't tell it)
Peace (1975), an afterlife fantasy set in the contemporary middle USA, is, word for word, perhaps Wolfe's most intricate and personal work; though not sf, it is central to any full attempt to understand his other novels; his sense of the great painfulness of any shaped life--

dow, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

I've read three Elizabeth Hand novels, I think. Every time going in it's like wow this is right up my alley but then... nope.

Would try again tho.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Friday, 24 August 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

hmmmm...

scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

what happens?

scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

some things are better in theory of course.

scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link


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