teengirl fantasy, miracles club, mi ami, 100% silk and the rise of HIPSTER HOUSE: S/D

i've never really understood that whole opinion— the track on the new TGF is pretty good, and his appearance on "Black Noise" was quite awesome. to me it just seems like generic "OMG some hipster guy invading my precious sub-genre" bullshit.

i don't have a problem with PB in Animal Collective. I just don't think he adds anything as a guest vocalist

OTOH that Talabot track with the dude from Delorean would probably better with PB.

"OMG some hipster guy invading my precious sub-genre" bullshit

i don't want any hipsters in my hipster house, thanks

is anyone else into this innergaze album?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihyHkFWFqMg&feature=related

not really house at all but who cares, this is great

ha I thought "innergaze" was some new genre.

is anyone else into this innergaze album?

yeah its crazy good posted about it elsewhere on ilm tho

where? was it in your forest thread or w/e, i haven't had time to do much other than check bookmarks lately

yeah, probably, i just remember posting about it

i'm listening to minimal wave on a sunny day and ... fuck, it's actually kind of cool?

songs like this have not only a cool detroit techno flashback vibe but also a "computer incantations for world peace", hardly as dark-sounding in the right context as people make it out to be, more mystical than anything else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fAIYkwLjJc

sampled by madlib i believe for this gem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnNc7-OzyWI

ha I just listened to Minimal Wave Tapes last night. this track I had never noticed before really stuck out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AE7KOI0eLw

vocals are deadpan but has a pop element to it too, in the call and response. and the breathier female parts remind me of something really specific that I can't put my finger on. cool song.

she did a great job with those comps, they're really good

i know what you mean! the part at 1:00 sounds EXACTLY like something else

some italo thing like sharevari

madlib also used

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxhkQbfA0fI

guess he built that track around minimal wave tapes 1

Loving that Oppenheimer Analysis album, thanks for the heads up here

there's not like the finest line between that and this

http://images.bluebeat.com/an/2/0/3/0/4/l40302.jpg

Getting a bit of a Saint Etienne Foxbase Alpha vibe from the new LA Vampires/Maria Minerva record. Nice album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdhdGJ9A0xg

Also, has the new Ital Dream On been mentioned? Another interesting release from him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEkHtIrq4RU

that maria/la vampires record is so good.

there is a nice little scene germinating in my city (vancouver). was at a delightful party last night. here's the promo mix they did for it. all local artists!

http://soundcloud.com/mood-hut/mood-hut-mix-005

So, what's the best of this stuff in 2012? I've not really kept up. I liked the first Ital LP but now I see there's another one. The Maria Minerva / LA Vampires sound interesting, I'll check that out - what with all my SE love.

i'm digging the new holly herndon full length on RVNG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frmJKaPT5U8

the album drifts between minimalist noise composition and more uptempo moments like the track above

not sure if there's a rational reason to put it in this thread, but i'm not really sure where else i'd put it so

Really feeling that Holly Herndon album, it's like the Laurel Halo one if it was as easy to listen to as it is to admire.

i found that laurel halo album unbelievably disappointing so maybe ms herndon is the lass for me

laurel halo album is so bad lol

I really don't understand Ital; either of the releases this year. I kind of want to though... It does really nothing for me :-/

not feeling the minimal vocal pieces i've hear4d from that herndon record, it sounds like someone playing around with ableton pitch-shift in a really unadorned and unappealing way.

Ital is great. i really like the analog texture, and the sense of hardware machines interacting and not being quantized together (whether or not he actually uses hardware & tape, i don't know).

I heard it's all done in Audacity (a bit like Burial), which is formidable if true, but I'm just not sure I can get my head around the aesthetic. The idea of it being house you can't dance to, or home-listening electronica that sounds like dance music, well it frustrates me. I guess there's loads of music that could come under this banner, but the Ital albums seem like they've been purposefully created to be jarring in a lot of ways and it just comes off unpleasant. I can neither dance around to it nor space out and enjoy the sounds. That said I have a feeling it's perhaps a matter of things "clicking" into place for me.

i really like this octo octa from earlier this year: http://soundcloud.com/mixmag-1/octo-octa-oh-love

dog that surprises me cause aren't you like mr idm?!?

ital is great, im not really into the new one atm but wtvr

I saw Holly Herndon perform last night. I don't know if I'd group it with this discussion/hipster house, if we were to define hipster house as having distinct CHICAGO references/genesis. More of a someone coming out of experimental type stuff into a minimal thing. I suppose you could group her with this if you want, but at this point every new band has some sort of 4/4 dance thing going on, so that definition would get pretty loose.

Her set was cut short however because Large Professor and RZA wanted to go on. Also performing was Driphouse, Forma and Mas Ysa. It was some sort of clusterfuck in the financial district thrown so the Motherboard blog/site of/from Vice could celebrate itself. Large Prof wasn't billed so that was a weird surprise.

Sounds like a strange event! Great artists though.

yea i didn't really feel like starting a 'holly herndon' thread so i brought it up here. i guess mostly because she embodies that experimental music / house music dichotomy. but loads of music does that so w/e

we should make a thread where we can talk about newer east coast stuff on labels like rvng or l.i.e.s. or even (to tempt fate) pittsburgh track authority

i made a future times thread but it never really caught on

i wonder would jamal moss fit in that thread too?

I almost brought this up before but figured it'd open a can of worms and maybe I'd get shit for it, but maybe I can coin another genre (if you recall I'm partially responsible for "beardo") and suggest simply post-house. To me, it makes a lot of sense. As something of a post-punk expert, I'm often explaining the obvious and less obvious sources of that term, generally you're talking about people coming out of punk and pushing it's envelope with these other influences (disco, funk, dub, krautrock, prog mostly), but the term later came to also describe acts that existed along with punk, and even before it. So wrap your brain around a concept like calling Pere Ubu or Television "post-punk" when, in an earlier and more obvious history, they are bands that helped invent punk, but in hindsight and in consideration of the "sound" of punk and the associations of post-punk, that makes sense.

So....post-house describes people coming out of conventional dance contexts and bringing in other influences (noise, krautrock/cosmische) etc, or acts coming from other genres into dance music and bringing their baggage. Now this brings up another discussion, which goes back to the beginnings of this thread, about authenticity (in sound). Someone coming out of post-punk/indie-rock or whatever making dance music that easily slotted into the mainstream of underground dance music, even while bending the form a little bit, wouldn't necessarily fit, but if they don't slot in easily, either because they're not competent enough to perfectly emulate chicago/detroit/etc(which is not a bad thing!) or because they bring something else to the table altogether different, then they do.

So a lot of the nu-disco stuff of the 2000s for instance, I wouldn't call "post-house" because they were producers reworking/reintroducing past dance forms...stretching the envelope a bit at times, reviving sounds, mixing up styles etc, but not breaking the mold.

Of course a lot of the stuff we've discussed in this thread fit that idea. I haven't heard enough of it all and don't like naming names anyway, and we discussed this when the thread started, but there's people emulating in a purely revival sound, and there's stuff that is something else alltogether...often they're the same labels, the same people, even the same 12", so who wants to bother breaking all that down.

Am I making any sense or is that just stupid? It makes sense to me. Of course we can all say "why bother trying to label anything, man" but you know what, it's fun and some of us get off on these kinds of discussions and if you don't, you can ignore or disagree but don't bother saying "don't label us bro" because you're gonna get labeled and maybe it's best to own it. In any case, a term like Post-House, as in post-punk, is not a value judgement but an understanding of shifts and trends.

I'm sorry, I don't really care this much, just rambling on putting off doing some other stuff, like making some post-house.

and let me beat anyone to the punch by saying, I've got your Post-House right here...

http://ncwportal.com/media/jpg/photo/2005/grant/2005_outside_ephrata_post_office

if you recall I'm partially responsible for "beardo"

new name up for grabs

beardo (tm)

'Post house' makes sense, especially when applied to Ital. TLG - i agree it's strange I should be making these complaints as an IDM head, but somehow I have trouble mapping this stuff onto the same values as Warp-style artists. This record is shamblingly scruffy in every way - sometimes it stumbles into the sublime, but more often keels over into incompetency. Most of the time it walks this tightrope over both of them.
In a way I guess this guy is approaching noise music from a dance perspective, a bit like Black Dice have more recently doing vice versa.
But I'm just having trouble parsing it - I should like it on these terms, but there's just something unpleasant and sickly, maybe something about the overall frequency of the record (lots of grainy midrange) that I seem to have an aversion to.

live right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoSsnOAtNyE#!

Teengirl Fantasy live tonight at the Brooklyn Museum of Art. Also the hipster disco band Midnight Magic and the hipster DJ Dan Selzer. Also custom nail art inspired by work in the museum. Sponsored by hipster online "radio" station VIva Radio.

http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/calendar/event/6274

That reminds me, this track:

https://soundcloud.com/100percentsilk/pharaohs-miraculous-feet

I dig some of the Pharaohs stuff. I think one ep on ESP? Speaking of which, my favorite new school house/techno dude somewhat of this ilk is Young Marco. Maybe I mentioned that already. 2 12"s I think on ESP, he's the house designer for Rush Hour I think? His stuff has that pretty techno vibe I love.

Oh yeah, that Young Marco mix is really great from the mixes thread.

Yeah it's amazing. The Boiler Room set is cool too.

This has been my retro house jam recently:

https://soundcloud.com/brutal-music-1/justin-velor-back-to-the

(Longer album version on Spotify is even better)

the coyote cleanup album is pretty good, silk fans. stream here:

http://www.dummymag.com/new-music/2013/05/01/coyote-clean-up-2-hot-2-wait-album-stream/

new octo octa streaming : D

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feed-item.aspx?id=64162

Really enjoyed the Pharaohs album while walking home from work in the sun today.

alex burkat tarot ep is nice

http://vimeo.com/66846598