What do you think of MTV Teen Mom Farrah Abraham's first single?

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I've just finished listening to this entire album, and you've really got to hear it. It's pure outsider art - fucking brilliant. Makes Peaches and Le Tigre sound like Taylor Swift. Seriously, here's the Spotify link, judge for yourself. I haven't heard anything this alienating in years - the Autotune abuse is so over the top and jarring, the lyrics are so disconnected and seemingly random, there's no way this happened by accident. This girl (because I think she produced this herself, I can't find credits anywhere) is some kind of insane genius.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 19 August 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8xm3mQeK61qgf5wso1_500.png

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 19 August 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

Debra_Bags

some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 01:53 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZy9lTQbghQ

scott seward, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link

i gotta admit just when i thought i'd heard everything...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XemtXy7aAWA

scott seward, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link

I'm telling you, she's some kind of genius outsider artist. I want to review this album for The Wire.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:19 (eleven years ago) link

i do like that its so short.

scott seward, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:22 (eleven years ago) link

i'm always hoping people go back to the 2 minute single. and definitely in her case. it makes the dementia more concise and easier to focus on.

scott seward, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:23 (eleven years ago) link

wow this is genuinely incredible

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:24 (eleven years ago) link

Did she just leave autotune on its default setting or something?

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

the autotune is really the least weird thing about it, lots of people have made more raw/amateurish use of it the last of people. the words and the random meter are just bizarre.

some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

er "the last few years"

some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

i pretty much wrote a farrah lyric by accident for a second there

some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

super interesting thing about it is that it really is an audible lesson in what autotune can't fix. compare this to the flavor flav single from a few years back. flav can't sing for shit, but he has the basic idea down - he just has bad pitch. he sings the song, they autotune the shit out of it, now when he sings "deeeeep" it sounds like a robot hitting the note. on this, her leaps are so far from the actual melody that AT or melodyne just corrects to something near it, and it's still audibly wrong. then they build the track around that, it sounds like. this is less outsider than...like those sound-library discs collectors get obsessed with?

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link

oops here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey3clrDUhGk&feature=channel&list=UL

scott seward, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:30 (eleven years ago) link

You guys haven't even seen the video! She and her daughter visit the father's grave (if you're not a Teen Mom viewer, you should know that Farrah's kid's father is dead):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJuu_4SR8-Y

The whole song repeats twice - it's like the Residents' "Commercial Album" principle applied without a wink.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:32 (eleven years ago) link

that one almost sounds like xiu xiu xp

half-worm inchworm tapeworm (donna rouge), Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link

a friend's girlfriend works as a producer on Teen Mom, really need to talk to them about this next time i see them

some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:35 (eleven years ago) link

love how that song ends with the phrase "this is the best i can do," delivered with an autotuned shrug

some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link

not having seen the show & having only these to go on I gotta say there's something in the earnestness of her delivery and the unrevised bluntness of the lines that's kind of moving in the way some GUYS I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING ABOUT THE WORLD hardcore used to be, these lyrics that'd be like THERE HAS TO BE! A BETTER WAY!

at any rate enjoy it while you can, by this time next week you will be as sick of this as you got of Rebecca Black

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:44 (eleven years ago) link

the header of her official website is "Your go to public figure..."

some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link

at any rate enjoy it while you can, by this time next week you will be as sick of this as you got of Rebecca Black

I'll have moved on to something else for sure, but this is a completely different kind of kick for me. Rebecca Black (who I never got even momentarily interested in) was a girl trying to make pop music and mostly failing; this is something else. I'm genuinely unsure whether this girl thinks she's making pop records which could be hits, or whether she's making some kind of bizarro confessional art-song. To tie it into something Scott said on Facebook, I feel like Editions Mego should license this album and put it out with cover art designed by Stephen O'Malley and see what happens.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i mean the album is a soundtrack to her book right? i kinda wonder if she has any misguided pop ambitions or just threw it together as part of her media platform

some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 03:00 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it's different & more fun for sure but online it will play out the same way, with 10 million people saying THIS SUCKS in as many "clever" ways as they can xp

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 19 August 2012 03:03 (eleven years ago) link

wow she's like the lucia pamela of the autotune generation. tracks need more cowbell tho

cock chirea, Sunday, 19 August 2012 03:24 (eleven years ago) link

This is fucking wild. I am in awe.

Everything You Like Sucks, Sunday, 19 August 2012 06:40 (eleven years ago) link

I would probably have believed it if someone told me 'Finally Getting Up...' was the new Crystal Castles single tbh.

pandemic, Sunday, 19 August 2012 11:26 (eleven years ago) link

This is amazing. Reminds me a lot of the Russian Youtube-hit singer Anzhela London. Same blend of twisted-commercial-pop elements and outsider art.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 19 August 2012 11:34 (eleven years ago) link

The album is quite remarkable. As mentioned upthread, it really doesn't sound like it ended up being weird, abrasive and disjointed accidentally. Appalling music can certainly take on a strange avant-garde quality without meaning to but this sounds more deliberate and focused somehow.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 19 August 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link

that one almost sounds like xiu xiu xp

― half-worm inchworm tapeworm (donna rouge), Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:34 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^

it's-a me, irl (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

like by the law of averages there are probably gonna be ppl that look at this thread w/o listening to the songs and think that this is just a bunch of music nerds hi-fiving over fucking Residents references or whatever, but... this is really... something

it's-a me, irl (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

haha pandemic OTM, this is super reminiscent of Crystal Castles to me

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

i'm really into it. the whole album. it's like if supposed former infatuation junkie era alanis made an edm record.

hamlisch kilgour (get bent), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

just otm-ing everyone at this point but the song is almost avant garde, pretend it came out of brooklyn with some blog buzz anda nice visual aesthetic and sky's the limit.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

there's no musical throughline to her melodies, it's just diary entries sung at random pitches.

hamlisch kilgour (get bent), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, this stuff is pretty rad. one of her songs was making the rounds on my Facebook feed for the LOLZ a few days ago and i ended up listening to it probably 8 times in a row.

circa1916, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link

Damn,....

I cannot fucking believe I'm saying this but

Is this on itunes?

Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 August 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

xiu xiu is a surprisingly apt comparison. mindfuck.

jed_, Monday, 20 August 2012 00:08 (eleven years ago) link

I seriously can't believe this is related to an MTV reality star, like I feel we're going to find out this is actually Har Mar Superstar with a pitchshifter

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Monday, 20 August 2012 03:38 (eleven years ago) link

this girl's persona on the show is completely tragic btw. a lot of legitimately bad things have happened to her (boyfriend dying, her mom is abusive iirc) but she's also kind of awful. her speaking voice is one of the least appealing sounds.

horseshoe, Monday, 20 August 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link

oh I got the speaking voice thing from her Youtube cooking show, which was really the end of the world

this album is weirdly compelling though

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Monday, 20 August 2012 03:42 (eleven years ago) link

like "Liar Liar" is genuinely amazing

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Monday, 20 August 2012 03:45 (eleven years ago) link

I think Romney blasts this on his tour bus, since it's sadface android music

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Monday, 20 August 2012 03:49 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I wrote about her for the sci-fi website io9.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

you guys

this may be my favorite release of 2012

DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 02:20 (eleven years ago) link

like wtf is going on in "Caught In The Act"

DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 02:21 (eleven years ago) link

a friend's girlfriend works as a producer on Teen Mom, really need to talk to them about this next time i see them

― some dude, Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:35 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

lol i called him about this and he was like "oh yeah, we know. we heard early versions of it"

some dude, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 02:22 (eleven years ago) link

haha I can't imagine that blase of a reaction to this

DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

no it was more of an "I KNOW, shit is crazy huh"

some dude, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link

But yeah y'all have some good points to make and yeah my idea of 'outsider artist' does seem to clash w the regularly accepted parameters. Just seems like someone doing something really pedestrian and mainstream but utterly failing, rather than bringing anything unique to the table other than a complete lack of talent. But it doesn't really matter that much to me so I'll shut up about it.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:13 (ten years ago) link

I doubt it's THAT easy -- I imagine most jobbing producers would prefer not to work with reality stars, hence most reality stars getting fairly fifth-string producers

katherine, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:16 (ten years ago) link

(I kind of like to think of "outsider artist" in terms of "will this shit still exist in 30 years or is it doomed to be ephemeral" but that's also a re-interpretation)

katherine, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:17 (ten years ago) link

there's plenty of ultra-mainstream crap that is forgotten immediately tho

ogmor, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:21 (ten years ago) link

I like imagining that "the dude who runs the audio recording facility closest to Art Institute of Ft. Lauderdale" is the Michael Bay of pop music! Would like to know if this guy actually produced the whole album, though.

cr4bdbgs, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link

there's definitely something in the term about slippage between intent and effect. i think what we mean an artist who has some aesthetic power but it's not what was intended. or the intent is really opaque.

one of my favorite local art exhibits of the past few years was a bunch of work done as part of art therapy for people with really profound mental illness or disability. there's almost no way to talk about it w/o terms that slide into condescension, i guess. but just on a formal level these artists happened upon (see? "happened upon") ways of working or repeating things that were really affecting. and maybe they wouldn't have been so powerful had i not known the story; there's no way of knowing.

goole, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:31 (ten years ago) link

W/ Farrah Abraham "outsider" is an easy way to avoid using the phrase "experimental artist," which she (also?) is. It might hedge against agency/intentionality (probably not wrongly, but who knows?). It's a bit of a game of not quite this ("experimental musician") but definitely not that ("pop star"). I really don't understand how anyone could listen to "MTDE" and think, "oh man, listen to all these failed pop songs!"

I figure that "My Teenage Dream Ended" sounds very much like what she was intending it to sound like. I think she was messing around and through ambiguous means ended up with something great, and that any accidental greatness isn't any more or less accidental than anyone else's greatness.

cr4bdbgs, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:44 (ten years ago) link

CelebURty -CelebURty --CelebURty

is there some deep meaning behind her spelling it this way in the video description's lyrics? anyway i am really enjoying this

dyl, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 23:04 (ten years ago) link

i figured it was just "U R a celebrity"?

The Greta Gerwig In The Sky (some dude), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 23:49 (ten years ago) link

I am singing this new song constantly.

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 20:55 (ten years ago) link

xp oh of course! farrah is always operating a level ahead of me when it comes to wordplay and such (only just realized that fla, in addition to obv being her initials, refers to "the sunshine state" itself)

i've also been playing this song more than i thought i would initially

dyl, Thursday, 27 March 2014 00:54 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

rubbing shoulders with fatman scoop in the latest series of celebrity big brother
praying for a collab

nxd, Friday, 28 August 2015 08:47 (eight years ago) link

I particularly loved when it was her shot to fire the canon and she jumped up singing "I like balls, I like balls"

boxedjoy, Friday, 28 August 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link

Off-topic but I am fully on-board with a Celebrity Big Brother starring Farrah, Scoop, Tile Tequila, Janice Dicking on and Jenny Jameson

boxedjoy, Friday, 28 August 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link

*Dickinson, what an unfortunate autocorrect

boxedjoy, Friday, 28 August 2015 13:52 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

man this album is really fucking something

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 September 2016 13:34 (seven years ago) link

yeah

goole, Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link

I want her next album to be a straight cover of
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/smurfs/images/d/dc/Father_Abraham_In_Smurfland.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110830210200

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link

i don't want to tie eeeeeverything to trump but someone needs to theorize the creative power of stupidity

goole, Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link

i can only put so much in a post

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link

i still have a burned copy of this in my car

circa1916, Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link

"After Prom" the parts where they have overdubs of her frantically whispering "don't tell don't tell don't tell don't tell don't tell don't let it get out" is crazy

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

nine months pass...

With Out This Ring... still a jam

skip, Sunday, 25 June 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link

i miss that! ring

dyl, Sunday, 25 June 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

Well here's a deep cut come to life

http://www.thefader.com/2017/11/21/farrah-abraham-album-producer-interview

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link

she sang it to a metronome!

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 09:32 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

fuck me, this album is already six years old???

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 16 August 2018 00:50 (five years ago) link

She made another song two years after the album - it's slightly more normal, but she still has no idea what the words "rhythm" or "rhyme scheme" mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h53AzPEdku0

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 16 August 2018 01:42 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

Farrah Abraham HATES Joan Didion and thinks you should buy HER OWN book over Slouching Towards Bethlehem. She has suddenly become our most fearess critic. https://t.co/Y2BeQZnfs3 pic.twitter.com/ge6hzCme4t

— Who? Weekly (@whoweekly) March 6, 2019

goole, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link

looool

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 20:57 (five years ago) link

lol

i actually tried reading my teenage dream ended! couldn't finish it

dyl, Thursday, 7 March 2019 01:57 (five years ago) link

new penthouse, where you can read alan dershowitz, toby young, and farrah abraham together. what did we as a culture do to deserve this

maura, Thursday, 7 March 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link

I finally found something with the same surreal "why was this made" vibe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBDAytqFrUk

frogbs, Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:07 (five years ago) link

new penthouse, where you can read alan dershowitz, toby young, and farrah abraham together. what did we as a culture do to deserve this

― maura, Thursday, March 7, 2019 1:30 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

edited by the singer from white lung, running copy from rightwing twitter trolls who haven't flamed out yet, it's a real smorgasbord

it was pretty funny watching them go after Nicole Cliffe and getting torched

goole, Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qRKBQU8j3E

ufo, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link

Went to Farrah’s twitter inspired by this revive and it’s unsurprisingly filled with pro-Trump conspiracy bullshit. Also she apparently looks like a fish now.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link

oh weird i was only discussing and rediscovering the FA album today on Facebook

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

yeah it hasn't gotten any less weird over time that's for sure

frogbs, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

seems even more striking now knowing that people like James Ferraro have dedicated their lives to finding a sound like this

frogbs, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

this is AOTY

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link

are the tracks only 10-15 seconds long?

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

come on kid, up your ante

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

aoty

billstevejim, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

merry xmas

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLwke9qe9t8k

goole, Monday, 21 December 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link

Someone get those ladies a Quiznos commercial!

peace, man, Monday, 21 December 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link

Holy shit, the Emily Montes album is great!! After you hear stuff like this and the Farrah album, regular pop music sounds so boring.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 21 December 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link

I like this Emily Montes album!
The disjointed Tik Tok format thing is a good addition to the My Teenage Dream Ended aesthetic.

Jamie Harley, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 07:57 (three years ago) link


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