i've seen american tv shows do that for british white ppl too tho
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
that is totally Britishist
also I cop to watching TMZ but really I just want to punch everyone on that show in the privates
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
the kids are on youtube, they're downloading all the music
what the fuck doesn't TMZ understand? Plus, I think the "????"s are there to trick you into not hearing the actual normal-assed English words that are coming out of this guys mouth.
― how's life, Friday, 17 August 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
normal-arsed iirc
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
sounds pretty clear to me, but i am british?
― if i had a goat's cheese tostada i might cream myself a little (stevie), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
all of those white dudes are douches though, that's pretty obvious.
― if i had a goat's cheese tostada i might cream myself a little (stevie), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
don't forget the black dude with dreads
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
i'll never forget how funny it was the first time i saw a liam gallagher tv interview w/ subtitles
― uncleshavedlongneck (some dude), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Sunny got on to me for watching The Young Ones with subtitles. Like I'm supposed to know what the hell a bilo is.
― pplains, Friday, 17 August 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
shit i'd actually looked away from the vid by that poin.t "its the same language we speak... its the same language." yes, and that's why the dude was entirely intelligible.
― if i had a goat's cheese tostada i might cream myself a little (stevie), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
Gallagher brother interviews should just be dubbed over with tracks of cats fighting and car crashes and the sounds of bones breaking.
― Pape de père en fils; pornocracie (Michael White), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
pplains, that reminds me of the difference I found in the 80's between European countries that watched American shows dubbed and those that watched them subtitled. The subtitlers all spoke far better English than the dubbers.
― Pape de père en fils; pornocracie (Michael White), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
That makes so much sense. Subtitles allow you to get both languages at once and after awhile, it has to meld.
― pplains, Friday, 17 August 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
I definitely now know what a bilo is.
― pplains, Friday, 17 August 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
i don't know what a bilo is...
― if i had a goat's cheese tostada i might cream myself a little (stevie), Friday, 17 August 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
anti-apartheid activist?
― contenderizer, Friday, 17 August 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
close, but not quite
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Friday, 17 August 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
it's a pen?
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 August 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
only if you're starring in an old Charlie Chan movie.
― pandemic, Friday, 17 August 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
you meant biro surely pp. (p)rick say "in biro!" on that show iirc. nfi what bilo is aside from an aus supermarket chain.
― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 17 August 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe. You'll have to forgive me, British is like a second language.
― pplains, Saturday, 18 August 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
if only there were subtitles you could consult
― ʘ (sic), Saturday, 18 August 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
So this Saving The Pearls piece of crap from upthread continues to have fallout.
― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Monday, 20 August 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
oof
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Monday, 20 August 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
damn. the whole thing just blows my mind. "racism is just as bad when the coals do it. don't you see?!?"
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
if you use the term "reverse racism" you need re-education
― goole, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
is "re-education" code for "punching"
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Monday, 20 August 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
I was hoping it was a code for "DJP goes to your house to explain why you are wrong"
― your native bacon (mh), Monday, 20 August 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
which, in turn, is code for "punching"
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Monday, 20 August 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
you do what you gotta do, man
― your native bacon (mh), Monday, 20 August 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
the "coals" vs. "pearls" business is such a dead giveaway.
"uh yeah, despite the fact that the society in question hates white people, they use a word suggesting value and beauty to describe them. why? well just, just ... just because, okay? coincidentally, that's also why they use a word for something dirty and common to describe black people. funny, huh?"
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
Wasn't her reasoning that in her fictional society, pearls were useless whereas coal was useful, so 'coal' was a good thing? Yeaaaaaaaah. Not a stretch at all.
― emil.y, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
the author couldn't metaphor herself out of a bulletproof mercedes with a grocery bag in it
― your native bacon (mh), Monday, 20 August 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 August 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
Wasn't her reasoning that in her fictional society, pearls were useless whereas coal was useful, so 'coal' was a good thing?
you mean just like in our present society?
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
like the future world is so lousy with pearls that they become a term of derision
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
"I am sick and tired of these motherfuckin' pearls in this motherfuckin' dystopia!"
― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Monday, 20 August 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
a pearl is something that forms from being irritated iirc
― your native bacon (mh), Monday, 20 August 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
barbara bush will always be the first pearl
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 August 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
http://content6.flixster.com/rtactor/40/34/40344_pro.jpg
http://www.reddstewart.com/minnie_pearl.jpg
― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Monday, 20 August 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
this book is eventualy going to be a best-seller isn't it
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 20 August 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
Wow. http://weirdtalesmagazine.com/2012/08/20/a-message-from-the-publisher/
I would like to tell our community that Weird Tales will NOT be running an excerpt from Victoria Foyt's novel in our upcoming issue.Marvin Kaye is our editor and has full control over fiction published in the magazine and website, and he agrees with me on this.Marvin was approached by Victoria Foyt, and was asked to review her novel. He was told that she was being slammed online by people who had not read it.I have not read the novel, but have gone over its online presence today. I have no need to read it. I saw the blackface video and read the excerpts the author and publisher chose to make available. I must conclude that the use of the powerful symbols of white people forced to wear blackface to escape the sun, white women lusting after black "beast men," the "pearls" and "coals," etc., is goddamned ridiculous and offensive. It seems like the work of someone who does not understand the power of what she is playing with.Marvin says if you read the whole book, she explains her use of this imagery, and it ends up as a plea for tolerance. I say, so what. And that is the position of Weird Tales - and upon reviewing the video and other materials, Marvin is in full agreement.I deeply apologize to all who were offended by our association with this book. I am offended by it. I fully respect those who have been writing negative things about us today. You are correct.I have removed Marvin's endorsement because he no longer stands by it. Marvin is traveling and will make his own statement shortly.
Marvin Kaye is our editor and has full control over fiction published in the magazine and website, and he agrees with me on this.
Marvin was approached by Victoria Foyt, and was asked to review her novel. He was told that she was being slammed online by people who had not read it.
I have not read the novel, but have gone over its online presence today. I have no need to read it. I saw the blackface video and read the excerpts the author and publisher chose to make available. I must conclude that the use of the powerful symbols of white people forced to wear blackface to escape the sun, white women lusting after black "beast men," the "pearls" and "coals," etc., is goddamned ridiculous and offensive. It seems like the work of someone who does not understand the power of what she is playing with.
Marvin says if you read the whole book, she explains her use of this imagery, and it ends up as a plea for tolerance. I say, so what. And that is the position of Weird Tales - and upon reviewing the video and other materials, Marvin is in full agreement.
I deeply apologize to all who were offended by our association with this book. I am offended by it. I fully respect those who have been writing negative things about us today. You are correct.
I have removed Marvin's endorsement because he no longer stands by it. Marvin is traveling and will make his own statement shortly.
― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
wow is right
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 00:29 (eleven years ago) link
Somebody's livid at somebody, that's for sure.
― "Pffft" --buddha (silby), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
gotta admit my first impulse is to subscribe
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link
i still dont understand why anyone cares about this? is this like the book world V-Nasty?
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:25 (eleven years ago) link
Nobody idiot says something racist, internet explodes
except at the moment isn't it more like, respected science fiction magazine plans to publish racist idiot, science fiction world explodes?
― 1staethyr, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:29 (eleven years ago) link
uh yeah
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:30 (eleven years ago) link
they didnt though
he wrote a huge missive about why they werent gonna publish an except from some self released book
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link