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I've never even heard of this feature.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 3 July 2008 06:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Wouldn't all the songs on a compilation belong to the same album? So you could scroll through your "Albums" and listen to the songs that way?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 July 2008 09:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean a button that organizes your compilations like compilations--a function that comes standard with iTunes and every iPod ever made--as opposed to spreading them into 20 separate sections of your "Artists" lists, thus organizing your music collection in a completely retarded, counterintuitive way that no one outside of a 12-year-old girl who has never owned a single CD would find even remotely useful.

uh the iPhone can do this as I said before:

1. Go to the "More" section.
2. Select "Compilations".

If you want to have a button at the bottom that lists all of your compilations:

1. Go to the "More" section.
2. Push the "Edit" button.
3. Drag the "Compilations" button onto the iPod toolbar.

I get it if you don't like the way they implemented it but the functionality is there.

HI DERE, Thursday, 3 July 2008 11:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Y'all know the O2 online store started taking orders for iPhone 3G at 8am this morning, right? Managed to get my order in at about 8.30 with no issues (though obviously that doesn't mean I'm guaranteed to get one on day one), but at 9.30 their store went offline, and still seems to be.

JimD, Monday, 7 July 2008 10:05 (fifteen years ago) link

hmmmm:

http://thecadeals.com/product113.html

sunny successor, Monday, 7 July 2008 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Product not found!

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 7 July 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

New Zealand has been REAMED.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 7 July 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Some fun controversy around the O2 orders actually. I didn't have any issues with mine at all, at 8.30am. But I'm new to O2, migrating from Orange. Apparently existing O2 customers who wanted to upgrade were having trouble getting though from, like, 8.03am. So the conspiracy theory (which kind of makes a lot of sense) is that O2 intentionally hobbled the system for their existing users, so that they could make sure their initial batch of handsets went primarily to people who were switching networks (and were therefore bringing in new contracts/money).

JimD, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I get it if you don't like the way they implemented it but the functionality is there.

-- HI DERE, Thursday, July 3, 2008 7:39 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Link

I mean a button that organizes your compilations like compilations--a function that comes standard with iTunes and every iPod ever made--as opposed to spreading them into 20 separate sections of your "Artists" lists, thus organizing your music collection in a completely retarded, counterintuitive way that no one outside of a 12-year-old girl who has never owned a single CD would find even remotely useful.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 02:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Are you intentionally being stupid here?

THE COMPILATIONS ARE ALL GROUPEED BY ALBUM UNDER THE "COMPILATIONS" SECTION WHICH YOU CAN DRAG AS A BUTTON ONTO THE MAIN BAR. THERE IS A VIEW WHERE THEY ARE NOT SPREAD OUT OVER 20 SEPARATE SECTIONS OF YOUR ARTIST LIST. WHY ARE YOU ARE CHOOSING NOT TO COMPREHEND THIS.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 04:24 (fifteen years ago) link

THAT'S RIGHT, I SAID "GROUPEED"

HI DERE, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 04:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Are you intentionally being even stupider and not reading things that I write?

I DON'T LIKE HOW MY ARTIST LIST GETS FUCKED UP WHEN I PUT IN COMPILATIONS. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT VIEWING COMPILATIONS. I'M NOT AN IDIOT. I KNOW YOU CAN VIEW COMPILATIONS ALL DAY LONG. I WANT AN ARTISTS LIST THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A FUCKING RETARDED LAUNDRY LIST OF BULLSHIT IF I HAPPEN TO HAVE ONE COMPILATION ON MY IPHONE. I DON'T CARE THAT YOU CAN ORGANIZE IT BY ALBUM TITLE OR COMPILATION. I WANT MY ARTIST LIST TO LOOK CLEAN AND NOT DUMB

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 04:55 (fifteen years ago) link

"uh"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 04:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Let me spell it out this way.

Let's say I put the Less Than Zero soundtrack on my iPod. Then I drag your button onto the bottom bar like you suggest.

When I click on COMPILATIONS: Yes, it has it in there, nice and neat. Less Than Zero soundtrack. Thank you, HI DERE, for the suggestion.

When I click on ARTISTS: The Bangles, Slayer, Public Enemy, Black Flames, etc... are ll split up INDIVIDUALLY in between the other artists. I don't like this because I am not a 12-year-old and I still think of albums as albums. I also organize my albums by artist because i'm not a fucking idiot.. So, naturally, when I click on ARTISTS, I don't want to see 7000 artists spread all over the place, boasting one song that's on a compilation

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 05:06 (fifteen years ago) link

you are insane. who on earth would worry about that??

haitch, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 05:11 (fifteen years ago) link

ya whiney you are being kinda crazy. if you wanna listen to the less than zero soundtrack then you click on compilations or filter by "less than zero" and you're aight.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 8 July 2008 05:13 (fifteen years ago) link

You guys like to see a bunch of extraneous shit when you browse artists? I can't be the only person who is annoyed by this.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 05:23 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah like when i scroll artists i see two songs by Big Head but when i sort by "trill ent survival of the fittest" it falls into line and i go about my day. i don't get bothered by the two Big Head songs. that sounds crazy trivial to me.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 8 July 2008 05:30 (fifteen years ago) link

i have a bunch of odd trax that i got off blogs or whatever; i enter 'download' as the album tag for those, so if i was looking for one of those it makes sense to browse by artist to find those even if it is just one track. works for me, anyway.

haitch, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 05:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i know what whiney is talking about - i sort my itunes library by ALBUM ARTIST for this reason.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 05:52 (fifteen years ago) link

for those odd trax i put in "techno" or "psych" or "edits" for the album artist. i find that it's a really useful way of sorting. the compilations don't have an album artist, so they end up at the back, grouped by album title.

i'm not sure if the iphone and ipod can sort by album artist, though ...

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 05:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm 100% with Whiney on this. To mitigate it I put 'Various' as the artist and append the actual artist's name to the track name in parentheses.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 06:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I am glad I have never had a commute that was ever long enough for me to consider putting this much effort into doing the whatever you guys are talking about doing

by which I mean I am glad I have never had a four hour commute

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 06:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I sort my iTunes library by "Date Added"

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 06:55 (fifteen years ago) link

To mitigate it I put 'Various' as the artist and append the actual artist's name to the track name in parentheses.

This causes problems with scrobbling in last.fm though.

Bob Six, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 07:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I have never used last.fm or had a scrobble

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 08:04 (fifteen years ago) link

haha HI DERE said GROUPEED

BLACK BEYONCE, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 08:11 (fifteen years ago) link

you want the browse by artist to be the list of "album artists" rather than the 'artists'. ok.

Alan, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 08:27 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, view all and sort by "album artists". for bonus points in the "album view". is nice.

Alan, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 08:29 (fifteen years ago) link

if yr on a mac, this can help in general

http://dougscripts.com/itunes/

though the only thing i can find does the REVERSE of what you want (copy artist info to album artist), and for the life of me i can't imagine why you'd want that.

Alan, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 08:38 (fifteen years ago) link

What does Album Artist do, exactly? I mean I know what it does in a relational database sense, but not in a music-sorting sense.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link

artists is used for that track's artist, but album artist is used for the artist of the album as a whole that this track comes from. so artists contains all the "X featuring Y" stuff and album artist just has "X". sort of thing

Alan, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 08:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Ohhhhh. Right. Thanks. Awesome.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 09:04 (fifteen years ago) link

i agree with whiney about this too. which is why i do something everyone will laugh at me for, which is make playlists for individual albums (i also like ot be able to see all my albums at once, with the artists' name--plus having individual DLed tracks adds a lot of crap to the "albums" listing).

s1ocki, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 09:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I edit EVERY SINGLE ARTIST, ALBUM AND TRACK because I CANNOT STAND stupid spelling mistakes or offensive use of English and I DO NOT WANT IT ANYWHERE NEAR MY IPOD.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 09:10 (fifteen years ago) link

okay ipod anal retentives' support thread, maybe

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 09:10 (fifteen years ago) link

that compilation thing *is* rubbish, fuck a steve jobs

DG, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 09:14 (fifteen years ago) link

i got into using "album artist" because of listening to lots of DJ mixes. you can also use "album artist" for the DJs name and then use the "artist" field for the individual artist.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 09:29 (fifteen years ago) link

i can also use it for grouping remixes, so that all of my jacques lu cont remixes show up under album artist "jacques lu cont", and i can still put down madonna in the artist field for "hung up" and coldplay in the artist field for "talk" and not feel bad about it.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 09:32 (fifteen years ago) link

and yeah this is quickly moving into itunes OCD thread

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 09:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Nice functionality but hah, like I'm going to relabel 15107 tracks.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 09:34 (fifteen years ago) link

that's like saying "no way i'm going to alphabetize 3000 records". what do you think they're for, listening to? collections are for sorting!

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 09:36 (fifteen years ago) link

ID3 tags often seem like a technology waiting for a user interface.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 09:38 (fifteen years ago) link

surprised itunes doesn't have some sort of "tag cloud" feature yet ...

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 09:40 (fifteen years ago) link

they could integrate it with the visualizer, so the tag cloud shimmies in time to the music

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 09:40 (fifteen years ago) link

compilation thing is terrific - what's crap are the submissions to CDDB that mark "best ofs" as compilations. really compilations is "various artists"

Alan, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 10:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Since this is now a giant whinge thread I HATE HATE HATE people putting the 'Alternative' genre tag on any music that isn't top 40. XTC isn't alternative ffs.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link

(and alternative is a pointless genre anyway)

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Will our kids dig through our old mp3 collections, discovering oddball favorites? I kind of doubt it.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 10:50 (fifteen years ago) link

They will lol at yr archived weekly Last.fm charts instead.

Stevie T, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link


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