the ineffable genius of DJ Q

a complete annotated set of cunts in a special commemorative gift case

daaaaaamn

seriously though rob now that youve had a go at ilx what do you think of dissensus

You should really wage holy war upon them, I'll get the popcorn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYESAhiXRzg

Disclosure is a good example of where I had lingering doubts about liking them too much which were happily resolved by the right types piling in on them.

LOVELOVELOVE that medlar mix of 'boiling', been caning it all weekend

― r|t|c, Tuesday, August 14, 2012 11:07 AM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also a big fat YES to this.

2nd rate doc daneeka ripoff

Your doc daneeka stanning is maybe your worst ever look incidentally.

i mean i don't find it so interesting cos the great uk bass middle class arent my grim paymasters but i can see why tim is so intrigued by the disclosure disconnect, they are as close you'll get to finding ukg interzone poster boys posited right in the middle of all the perspective matrices - unencumbered, fresh and bump n flexy for the ukg lot, hackneyed and terribly obvious for the bass wonks, and so on

likewise this q mix will doubtless be met with widespread acclaim, but the question is in doing so which perhaps notionally distant metrics does it simultaneously satisfy and how

unencumbered, fresh and bump n flexy for the ukg lot, hackneyed and terribly obvious for the bass wonks

lol at this

the question is in doing so which perhaps notionally distant metrics does it simultaneously satisfy and how

I suspect DJ Q's crossover to FACT types is very much tied up with the extent to which he appears to free himself from the shackles of bassline, and this is the probably the least bassline (non radio) set I've heard from him.

By no longer being grounded in any one sound (especially one which is so loaded with geographical and timeline specificity as bassline) its mix of 2-step and non-bassline-but-bass-driven thug tunes and house and etc. reads - or at least can be read - as a street reflection of the collage party principle that motivates most of post-dubstep (and certainly its tropical / "funky" end).

I don't want to harsh the buzz though b/c this is a fab mix obv.

so like two random guys on dissensus say they don't like Disclosure and thats a talking point? Get a grip...

I think it was the other 168 pages of navel gazing that might have lead up to it.

let's not get hung up on the hardhouse banter eh lads

Like I said: mild annoyance. This mix is fun though, and Disclosure have written a lot of tunes that I've liked recently.

I wasn't talking about that conversation myself incidentally - I've gotten loads of stick from quite a few people for liking Disclosure!

I know I know, as you were.

xp o rly? i have been quite pleased by the positive irl normal person response

just between us lot (gather round) i think that, substituting jazz for ukg, disclosure might have something like a teensy pinch of zero 7 to them that people enjoy

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B007X73VM2/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=163856011&s=dmusic

like wow what year is this meant to be from

http://i.imgur.com/cDlib.jpg

grr

I liked how they quite sincerely and unashamedly cite Jamiroquai as a key influence

oh do they! well then. in fairness i kinda feel like that's an slightly easier thing to say now than it might have been as recently as idk a year ago...?

since Jay Kay's tragic death yeah

son, don't test me

heh turns out they said it two years ago http://www.loudandquiet.com/2010/10/disclosure-interview/

why do you think its easier to say you like Jamiroquai nowadays though?

the daneeka thing was idle trolling ;-)

that said i do love his style, not that it is particularly relevant to this thread above, say, any of other vaguely housey bobbinsy thing

mea culpa

Didn't Funkystepz rep for Jamiroqoai? That "proper white people tunes" playlist or something? Maybe that was someone else.

this mix is amazing

i've pretty much lost all interest in thinking about instrumental british club music beyond that though

that linkoban track >>>>>>>>>>>

Swooning over Todd's 'Love Inside' all over again right now. But how old is this track? It seems to have been around for donkeys but I see its only recently been released

even night slugs lex?

i said thinking about, not listening to! i can't even bring myself to think about why all this taste chess and subgenre politicking bores me senseless now. still love the music. i've run out of words to say about it, prob my failing.

(that said the current NS direction is...less my thing than they used to be)

oh yeah i agree, like who gives a fuck about the line between dubstep / funky / grime / bass / uk house blah blah blah

idk why british dance music infected with it so much more than any other genre but it makes it seem so un-fun

like who gives a fuck about the line between dubstep / funky / grime / bass / uk house blah blah blah

DJ Q?

His ecumenicalism is hardly senseless.

well sure but isn't his thing (everyone's thing?) kind of scribbling back and forth across some of those lines?

I don't think you can really collapse all of these approaches together - so much of the artfulness is tied up in where the DJ/producer thinks the lines are. It's what gives the scribble meaning and definition.

so what would be your precis of the dj q sound?

It goes back to what I was saying in the bubblers thread about a kind of plasticky high-contrast sensibility - I'll quote the relevant post when I'm not writing on my phone.

But a pretty key distinction from a lot of 'scribblers' is that dj q is not really in dialogue with us hip hop or r&b at all.

Except in the circuitous sense of recreating past uk quotations of us source material (e.g. 2step remixes of Brandy).

Here's that post:

I think the real demarcation these days is less between abstract vs songful and more along production values lines.

This is where a distinction between say 1999 garage and 2001 garage really makes sense, the earlier stuff still retaining a kind of vinyl warmth and almost-"deepness" and the later stuff sounding like the contrast has been turned up - heavier but more plasticky beats, exaggerated bass but also exaggerated treble... a generalised air of hyperreality.

This (rather than pop vs abstraction or lightness vs heaviness) is probably the key point of distinction between "future garage" and the stuff that Q plays, only it's even more extreme now, future garage being "deep" to the point where it has to shun anything that might interfere with that, and the Q interzone retaining (albeit as a kind of reigning principle rather than a clearly defined sonic property) the sickly harshness of bassline.

― Tim F, Thursday, 5 July 2012 23:18 (1 month ago) Permalink

The above is less relevant for what I say about future garage than for what I say about Q.

Picking up on r|t|c's jamiroquai/zero 7 references, even the more tasteful parts of DJ Q's sound have a kind of trebly artificiality (and perhaps superficiality) to them - the signifiers rather than the "substance" of tastefulness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM6XlH5BNh8

Glad that the owl track made it on here...

Free EP on his soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/djq85/sets/dj-q-mc-bonez-all-i-really/

FWIW: Another basically non-"dance" person here who likes what I've heard of Disclosure. I think I've liked everything, though I'm not sure I've loved any of it.

last EVER 3-hr mix on 1Xtra tonight. LOCK IN, as they say