Taylor Swift - RED - October 22

depends on whether she's been dating one of the hansons

she's dating a kennedy!

i am not sure about the talky aside.

Nashville, TN – August 13, 2012 – Taylor Swift’s highly-anticipated fourth studio album will be released worldwide on October 22nd, Taylor herself announced this evening during a live YouTube web chat with her fans.

Entitled Red, the album will be released on Big Machine Records and contains 16 tracks. After writing her last album (Speak Now) entirely by herself, for this record Taylor collaborated with several artists, producers, and songwriters she had always wanted to work with.

“For the last two years, I've been working on an album called Red,” Taylor says. “I called it Red because of the tumultuous, crazy adventures in love and loss that it chronicles. In my mind, when you experience love that's fast paced and out of control and mixes infatuation, jealousy, frustration, miscommunication, and all of those lovely emotions…in retrospect, it all looks red.”

The first single from Red, “We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together,” (written by Taylor Swift, Max Martin, Shellback) has already arrived at radio and will be available today at iTunes and Google Play, and beginning tomorrow worldwide at all digital retail outlets.

(written by Taylor Swift, Max Martin, Shellback)

oh, gaaawwwwd

max goin back to the OG teenpop days

Man, I hope she didn't completely ditch Nathan Chapman (or her particular brand of country pop) for the album. I can totally see how this could fit into one of her a;bums, but it's not really the type of thing I can listen to a whole album of.

yeah I'm surprised how pop she's gone with this, and I miss the songwriting tightness & lyrical specifities et. al. that are her trademark (though that indie record line totally compensates - just imagining her face when she's singing that is making me irl lol) when it doesn't seem like she needs to go to max martin for a hit. BUT speak now didn't really produce any massive hits in the vein of fearless and the general response to "mine" as a lead single was that it was underwhelming (even though I thought it was still a+ great) and I figure that she wants the huge commerical success on the pop format now when she's at her prime in the knowledge that she's guaranteed decades of success in country when she wants a bit later on anyway, so she might as well let her hair down a bit right now, and maybe even get some big worldwide success a la shania. also I imagine this is something of a red (yeah yeah) herring and the album will have a lot more darker mood pieces like "safe & sound" - and just a whole load of experimentation by the sound of it - and this is just a case of pulling in the listeners to go and buy the lp.

also I really like how this added to ther huge successes of "call me maybe" and "boyfriend" is i think forming a new pop consensus, which is starting to move the top 40 format away from the gross pounding guetta/calvin harris beats shit and getting back to an earlier age of teen pop. or maybe that's just my wishful thinking.

can see this probably alienating some country radio unless there's a banjo mix. but then country radio is all about the cash so i'm probably wrong. i mean they played that terrible sugarland steampunk thing to death.

anyway, don't know if i like this too much. not much of the old taylor in it :-(

I'm not enthusiastic in general about her album being filled with collabs - I trust her, but not her friends, and I don't really want a 'different sound'.

But this song is great and sounds like a huge hit immediately, unlike Mine, which was great but didn't sound like a hit at all, and so it's definitely job well done in starting off the campaign differently from Speak Now. Hopefully the album is a Taylor-ish whole and not bits and pieces of other attempts at hits, though.

i think i saw buzzings on a blog somewhere that there may be a mix for country radio

the album will have a lot more darker mood pieces like "safe & sound"

i am hopeful that this is the case - that song in particular has grown on me quite a lot since it came out

here's the country mix: http://tasteofcountry.com/taylor-swift-we-are-never-ever-getting-back-together/

the good - flawless album cover:

http://cdn.idolator.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/13/taylor-swift-red-album.jpg

the bad/really ugly - ed sheeran will be on the album :////////////

Hope he's as audible as Colbie Caillat on 'Breathe'.

i really like this and also the red lipstick shots have me swooning like crazy <3 <3 <3

but ew i refuse to get anything with ed sheeran on it

i always though breathe could have used a little more Caillat, tbh. i've never heard Ed Sheeran. He looks like a smarmy douche.

I remember when Speak Now came out, there was a little processed drum loop on one of the songs and I was like "god, don't do this Taylor" and now this song basically sounds like P¡nk or something. But it`s not a particularly novel take on the P¡nk thing.

Like, and it's not to say that Taylor couldn't do that sort of pop well, as a departure from the country/pop/rock thing that's worked really well for her, but god those drums stomp all over everything in the song.

i think something like Sparks Fly is as far down the pop taylor rabbithole i was prepared to go. if the new LP is all shit like Avril's 'Girlfriend' i may have to take my leave.

I think pseudo-Avril is a pretty good sound for Taylor! This is much better than I was expecting from reading the above.

Except for the talky aside, Lex is right about that

Taylor's better than this and Avril's better than this.

yeah but I can't get past the fact that Avril is releasing that sort of thing when she's 28. If Taylor is still doing non stop indecisive boyfriend focused stuff in three-five years it would be a big disappointment. she's a good enough writer to be able to go somewhere else with it.

I'd rather Taylor did pseudo-Ashlee rather than pseudo-Avril.

yeah also hate the talky asides. the ones on Better Than Revenge were cringe enough.

I'd rather Taylor did pseudo-Ashlee rather than pseudo-Avril.

― prolego, Tuesday, August 14, 2012 10:14 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

From a distance this post makes perfect sense but on reflection I think it totally depends which Ashlee album you're referring to here.

At any rate I think this could easily seem as much like an Ashlee song as an Avril song, it's just that Taylor's voice ends up sounding more like Avril b/c she's girly rather than throaty.

yeah also hate the talky asides. the ones on Better Than Revenge were cringe enough.

― Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, August 14, 2012 10:14 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The ones on Better Than Revenge were completely cringe-inducing, but less-so for this song. The cut-up snippets of conversation reminds me of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk7MTuovhhE

like she's trying to do something experimental with found sound and it could probably be awesome in some other producer's hands.

This song is okay on second listen but then I had a similar reaction to "Mine."

I finally listened to the country mix linked upthread. Still mediocre, but I would have preferred it to the mix I actually bought from itunes.

I don't understand this expiry date for pop starlets thingum, like what? What is supposed to happen when pop star turns 28? Jazz albums? Lyrics about Plenty Of Fish?

I can't believe Avril's almost 28 though. Poor thing. She's all like "I'm a goddamn grownup. Get all this crap off of me!"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Avril_Lavigne_%28crop%29.jpg

So what? I didn't get it with the "CR Jepsen is 26, too old for this shii" argument and I don't get it with Avril either. Most women I know are chin-stroking think pieces in their early 20s, and raving horn-dogs in their 30s. I mean, this whole "she's too old for this" is male gaze talking, if I may say so in the gentlest of terms

Please accept "raving horn-dogs" with a grain of salt.

xpost ^^^^

Although really any age is too old for that hair IMO.

owen otm

it's nagl on avril for different reasons, one of which is that it wasn't a gl in the first place

erm :/

i don't hate it but i probably will after like ten listens

i dunno... i miss the narratives and lyrical specifities and stuff... not really what i wanted but i mean this is off like 2 listens thus far. i guess she really wants to expand her fanbase beyond north america. defo sounds like it could be ubiquitous or whatever but i mean... erm ok... :/

maybe i'll end up loving it? lol this post is a mess but i've been waiting for this for 2 years and now all this info coming out at once aaaaaaa

http://i.imgur.com/KCJO0.jpg

i guess she really wants to expand her fanbase beyond north america.

this is pretty much The Plan, yes

i'm not allowed to post any more ://////////// i need to be kept away from this thread

along with avril, i immediately flashed on JoJo hearing this.

I don't think it's horrible Taylor Swift's doing this type of thing per se, just ironic cuz she always seemed like someone who couldn't wait to grow up.

@ dayo I don't get it oh wait LOL

anyway the thing that this song reminds me of is "my life would suck without you", i think you all remember how i felt about that, it's not quite that mediocre and i enjoy it BUT.

it's that clumsy lyrical phrasing in the chorus. basic.

He said the way my blue eyes shined
Put those Georgia stars to shame that night
I said: "That's a lie."
Just a boy in a Chevy truck
That had a tendency of gettin' stuck
On backroads at night
And I was right there beside him all summer long
And then the time we woke up to find that summer gone

But when you think Tim McGraw
I hope you think my favorite song
The one we danced to all night long
The moon like a spotlight on the lake
When you think happiness
I hope you think that little black dress
Think of my head on your chest
And my old faded blue jeans
When you think Tim McGraw
I hope you think of me

September saw a month of tears
And thankin' God that you weren't here
To see me like that
But in a box beneath my bed
Is a letter that you never read
From three summers back
It's hard not to find it all a little bitter sweet
And lookin' back on all of that, it's nice to believe

When you think Tim McGraw
I hope you think my favorite song
The one we danced to all night long
The moon like a spotlight on the lake
When you think happiness
I hope you think that little black dress
Think of my head on your chest
And my old faded blue jeans
When you think Tim McGraw
I hope you think of me

And I'm back for the first time since then
I'm standin' on your street
And there's a letter left on your doorstep
And the first thing that you'll read is:

When you think Tim McGraw
I hope you think my favorite song
Someday you'll turn your radio on
I hope it takes you back to that place
When you think happiness
I hope you think that little black dress
Think of my head on your chest
And my old faded blue jeans
When you think Tim McGraw
I hope you think of me

Oh, think of me
Mmmm

He said the way my blue eyes shine
Put those Georgia stars to shame that night
I said: "That's a lie"

nevr 4get

i was just thinking how every first single she's had is worse than the last. and like yeah her debut song is still her very best but it's such an all-time pinnacle of music that I guess it's not too depressing that nothing else can really compare (the vast majority of all her other stuff is still a++ good).

everytime I listen to "tim mcgraw" and realise it was written by a 14 y/o makes me go o.O - like how the fuck?!

could shakespeare have written that well at 14? idts.

anyway the thing that this song reminds me of is "my life would suck without you"

OTM

So what? I didn't get it with the "CR Jepsen is 26, too old for this shii" argument and I don't get it with Avril either. Most women I know are chin-stroking think pieces in their early 20s, and raving horn-dogs in their 30s. I mean, this whole "she's too old for this" is male gaze talking, if I may say so in the gentlest of terms

― Ówen P., Tuesday, August 14, 2012 11:54 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I was sorta joking in re avril and her music and pop music in general. As long as you're striving for excellence, ya know. But it would be sorta cool if she got rid of raccoon eyes for 2013.

(best TS song is still "Our Song" fuiud)

best TS song is Forever & Always, fuiUd.

if i had to put t-swift's singles in order of preference...

tim mcgraw
our song
fearless
back to december
mine
you belong with me
fifteen
sparks fly
white horse
safe & sound
love song
picture to burn
teardrops on my guitar
should've said no
mean
we are never ever getting back together
ours
the story of us
eyes open

everything down to "love song" is 10/10 though

the music that taylor's been championing (ed sheeran and whatnot) doesn't inspire confidence tbh.

she was championing him on her last album and that turned out a bit amazing
and ed sheeran's new album is really good, catch up every1

she had ed sheeran and gary lightbody on one of the best albums of the decade we'll be fine

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/10582801_10152355724940369_6568154568776223259_o.jpg

i'm crying

internet suggests it is a conversation and not a stream of the album unfortunately

Bet we will at the very least get a release date though.

surely it's the worst kept secret ever at this point that's she's releasing on oct 13th

i'm expecting lead single + album title + few other details, just like last time

http://i.imgur.com/IjnEDDM.gif

"But I took your matches snatched my hand back before fire could catch me"

good gif

god, that video of her up there visiting that little boy is incredible

i ended up here because RED continues to grow for me and i wanted to read the thread again :D

watching some Red-era clips this morning and she is terribly pitchy on a few that i watched from 2013, but this Letterman one from 2012 sounds terrific!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i56EKIx0VdU&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR1jwAZVlnowUJULxMCvUyKrGBC4RzYmMZspKd8t-eTx4KUQdCv630AjcPc

wtf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i56EKIx0VdU

this should be it?