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Eight tracks into this and the single's been the only really good song.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 13 August 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

I like it, but I feel like he should be putting these kinds of records out once or twice a year on Paw Tracks. It doesn't feel like two years worth of work.

wk, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

tbf, he spent a lot of that time figuring out how not to rape his prey

contenderizer, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

he's still probably looking for a girl who puts up with his shit and puts out just like a little girl scout.

wk, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

I mean chick

wk, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

I feel like he should be putting these kinds of records out once or twice a year on Paw Tracks. It doesn't feel like two years worth of work.

kind of agree with this. it's not awful but ... not very good either. I doubt I'll buy it. I went ahead and just got the "Baby" single (which is great).

dmr, Monday, 13 August 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

I'd rather listen to the original tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONIJXHvoynw

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Monday, 13 August 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i don't see the point of the cover. the orignal is awesome, as is the rest of the album it came from.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 13 August 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder how much time he actually spent on this. Pink Slime must have been written fairly recently right?

wk, Monday, 13 August 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

You all realize musicians often have mood swings and may be under the influence of drugs or attention when taking an interview.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 02:53 (eleven years ago) link

Once you are popular and fashionable you are not a nerd.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link

That's my point - he's the nerd who's become popular and with his new found sense of power all his seething resentment floods out. I'm sure Mr Pink is no stranger to the devil's dandruff, but the pish he comes out with the interview is backed up by lyrics on the album. Plus it's in the Wire, hardly known for its sensationalist approach.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 10:23 (eleven years ago) link

The album definitely picks up a bit towards the end but, no, I doubt I'll buy this. 'Schnitzel Boogie' followed by 'Symphony of the Nymph' is the low point.

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 11:39 (eleven years ago) link

Symphony of the Nymph is the creepy nadir, plus it manages to rip off Kraftwerk and Telstar and still be shit.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link

In case anyone missed the Wire interview, I quote: 'Beta males have got it figured out so that they don't even have to chase or rape their prey, so to speak'. Urgh, what a creep.

― Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Saturday, August 11, 2012 7:32 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

URGH. Total creep. I haven't read the interview in The Wire, but I did read a really dopey interview in Bomb and I was trying my best not to let affect my opinion of the music.

America's Mobile, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

I'm really enjoying the record in spite of myself.

America's Mobile, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

The one with Cass McCombs? Just looked this up. Good lord, bisexuals are castrated? Young people defining themselves as bi is 'a mutation'? This guy is a fucking moron.

AP It’s a good point, so the people that go to action are the kids. Therefore music is targeted to a youth audience. The youth are castrating themselves. Willingly. That political correctness thing. Everybody’s bi now. Have you noticed that?

CM Outside of San Francisco?

AP Everybody under 27 years old. Every girl I’ve ever met who’s under 27: bi. Call me old-fashioned. That did not happen in my generation. I find it very disturbing, frankly. The Millennials are what I’m talking about—they have no gender. Their gender is a biological imperative. It can’t be a choice, of course. They’re just born bi. Maybe it’s a mutation or something like that.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

i have no idea what he is getting at there. maybe its a joke? he's being ironic?

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

still doesn't make sense

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

He's just trying to get some transgressive millennial groupie action.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

i really love this record after 5 or 6 listens. was not super impressed after the first

bluelips, Thursday, 16 August 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

wtf

The Entertainment Law Digest has posted details of a lawsuit filed by former Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti drummer Aaron Sperske, who claims that he was illegally "squeezed out" of an "oral partnership" agreement established between the band members in 2008.
Sperske alleges that he and the three remaining Haunted Graffiti members-- Pink (real name Ariel Rosenberg), Tim Koh, and Kenny Gilmore-- wrote the songs for the upcoming record Mature Themes together and that he's entitled to 25 percent ownership. He claims he's "entitled to profits from royalties and future shows," writes Entertainment Law Digest, and is seeking $1 million in punitive damages. (Cole M. Greif-Neill was originally part of the partnership as well, but "left the partnership of his own accord in 2010," according to Entertainment Law Digest.)
According to the lawsuit, which was filed on August 12 in Los Angeles, Sperske was removed from the band in spite of performing "diligently and competently."

mizzell, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

I agree with a lot of the sentiments expressed so far. I'd be willing to bet RSM wrote Symphony of the Nymph and dared AP to put it on the album. It's definitely the least charming thing Ariel's ever released.

I doubt Ariel Pink was ever a nerd. I remember the real nerds in high school. They had visible plaque in their teeth and sat by themselves at lunch, and were genuinely ostracized. There's a difference between feeling like a nerd in high school and actually being one, and adults should be able to look back and recognize the difference.

3×5, Saturday, 18 August 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

Also Ariel's arrested development was kind of cute when he was 26, but at 33 it's kind of gross.

3×5, Saturday, 18 August 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

this guy has always sucked </shakey mo>

turtwig greenturty (Matt P), Saturday, 18 August 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Listened to this yesterday and liked it more than I expected. Definitely a return to his earlier work and very goofy throughout. I can understand why it isn't getting much love. It doesn't really measure up to the last one, but I think I'll still listen to it a bunch.

Moodles, Saturday, 18 August 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

Self-described Beverly Hills yuppie in saying dumb shit shockah

maybe he's just trying to compete with his homeboy john maus

fuck both of these guys with a doo-doo covered stick

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:19 (eleven years ago) link

love both of these guys and also doo-doo

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:46 (eleven years ago) link

Ariel Pink is actually my great-grand-nephew. I think he's done a fine job here; I like this almost as much as the Chess soundtrack, which happens to be the only other CD I have in the house, though I'm sure I must have bought some others at some point and then just mislaid them. Symphony of the Nymph is the standout track on the album (I mean Ariel's album; One Night in Bangkok is the standout on Chess) with its deft rhyming of "discotheque" and "bibliotheque", "Lothario" and "Ariel", "synth" and "nymph". It's hella catchy; when I sing it at my local bakery they give me free bagels. To go.

I can just imagine the video, with Ariel recreating Nijinsky's role (a sort of graceful brindled cow) in L'Apres Midi d'une Faune. But wait, Nijinsky played the faun in that! Lydia Nelidova was the nymph! Well, okay, Ariel would have to play Lydia's character. But considering his tirades against modern bisexuality in recent interviews, Ariel would find that role reversal really fucked up, and a bad example for the youth of America. Hmmm.

Here's what I suggest. Ariel plays a really butch lesbian bitch of a nymph, in the cow suit, with, you know, udders everywhere. Then some crass cisgendered rock chick groupie with pink hair comes along and milks him in this really suggestive way, with her mouth, in this disco-library-type milking stall, until out spurts... not milk, not spunk, but pure 1960s-grade alpha-methylphenethylamine. Some of it spills on the ground, and seven librarian sluts get down on their knees and snort it up. Then they strap on guitars and recreate Robert Palmer's Addicted To Love. But instead of Palmer, there's Ariel, still dressed as a cow, on the mic.

I'm going to email him right now and suggest this. He's still got about eight weeks before he hits the obsolescent scrapheap, so with a non-union crew it could just be possible.

Grampsy, Sunday, 19 August 2012 05:50 (eleven years ago) link

What kind of fucking high brow trolling is this?

Evan, Sunday, 19 August 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

not his best work imo

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, 19 August 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

high brow?

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Sunday, 19 August 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

I doubt Ariel Pink was ever a nerd. I remember the real nerds in high school. They had visible plaque in their teeth and sat by themselves at lunch, and were genuinely ostracized. There's a difference between feeling like a nerd in high school and actually being one, and adults should be able to look back and recognize the difference.

― 3×5, Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:32 PM (Yesterday)

i don't know whether ariel is real or faux nerd. either way, it does seem like he's competing with maus and adam from girls to be some new kind of "real (gross) nerd" icon.

contenderizer, Sunday, 19 August 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

Grampsy on chillwave thread = Lampsy

some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

Um. I'm pretty sure John Maus has never been horrendously bi- and trans-phobic, and if you guys are comparing his comments on record shops to this shit, then you are fucking awful people.

emil.y, Sunday, 19 August 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

tbf this is what grampsy's eyebrows look like

http://m.popstar.com/Gallery/Celebrity/D/David+Hemmings/Photos/00000004-6004.jpg

some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

my favorite part of the wire interview is when AP suggests that maybe 6-7% of ppl in the world have heard of him.

one dis leads to another (ian), Sunday, 19 August 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

Um. I'm pretty sure John Maus has never been horrendously bi- and trans-phobic, and if you guys are comparing his comments on record shops to this shit, then you are fucking awful people.

― emil.y, Sunday, August 19, 2012 12:12 PM (33 minutes ago)

well, as a happily self-confessed awful person, i'm comparing only the oddball affectations, not degree of evil or anything

contenderizer, Sunday, 19 August 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

lol i wonder if Metallica has even reached that many people (xpost)

some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

...but yeah, maus hasn't said anything anywhere near as repellent, afaik

contenderizer, Sunday, 19 August 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

420 Million Ariel Pink Fans Can't Be Wrong

wk, Sunday, 19 August 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

Maus seems really tedious but I'm pretty sure Pink is just doing a Lou Reed / Bowie kind of schtick.

wk, Sunday, 19 August 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

It's a shame because when I first got into Ariel, I listened to an interview with him and I was impressed that he wasn't trying to be weird, and could speak eloquently about his music and what he was trying to do. It's a shame that he's turned into this. In this post reality show world where everyone's publicist coaches them to act outrageous, there's nothing offbeat about the way he behaves now.

3×5, Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

in recent interviews he's like "tee hee i'm single and ready to mingle" . couple of sentences later "shit, i was ready to have kids" aww

Sébastien, Monday, 20 August 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link

Where is this devastating interview everyone keeps talking about? Link please?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 20 August 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

it's in this issue of the Wire but I don't think they put this stuff up for free, you have to subscribe to access

http://www.thewire.co.uk/issues/342/

dmr, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

How can anyone familiar with his catalogue take any opinions he voices in an interview seriously? That's like expecting coherence from an interview with Animal from the muppets.

Cousin Slappy, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

no kidding. The album was surprisingly good given the negative comments here. some off tracks but all of his albums have off tracks.

skip, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

I don't care if he personally means the awful things that he says, he is perpetuating a harmful discourse and for that he deserves to be held accountable.

emil.y, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link


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