Jean-Luc Godard: S and D

The comment above about FS being half tripe is otm. as a piece I probably "enjoyed" Notre musique a little more.

yeah i've never really enjoyed "breathless" but "pierrot le fou" is probably in my all-time top 10, not

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that "not" should not be there

'pierrot le fou' is the greatest

contempt is the one i love

i haven't seen contempt in forever

would like to see a bertolucci vs godard t/s

well actually maybe more just "the conformist" vs "pierrot le fou"

Belmondo sooooo hot in PLF.

they're the all-time hot couple imo

also in 'une femme est une femme' <3

While we're crushing: Juliet Berto, Maoist of my dreams

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Also want to note the PLF scissors bit homage in Moonrise Kingdom.

After viewing the 2010 Criterion reissue of My Life to Live I'm prepared to place it in his top three. I haven't seen the thing since a scratchy PBS showing in '95.

Like everything of Godard's I go back to these days, Week End made much more sense to me tonight than when I used to struggle with it. Don't know if I'd ever prefer it to Band of Outsiders of Masculin Feminin, but as great as the earlier films are, I'd still say he's a half-step behind Dylan and the Beatles and pop music in general. (A half-step behind in what? I'd try to explain, but I'll ramble.) Week End, though, is amazingly all over all the bad stuff that's about to happen. The last 20 minutes especially felt like you were inside the Spahn Ranch or something.

Coming out in Blu-Ray via Criterion, and I'm stoked for it. Only seen it once, and that was a decade ago.

Juliet Berto, gorgeous as always, even in blood-spattered revolutionary garb.

Could've done without the pig's slaughter in Weekend while still agreeing it is a special document of the time.

I had no idea Juliet Berto died in 1990 at the age of 40. Bummer.

Some Cahiers lists from Godard:

http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~ejohnson/critics/godard.html

I bought Histoire, looking forward to watching it

I took it up to the counter for rental yesterday, but postponed when they had Three Women; I'm going to get it when I return the Altman.

all D-V projects: http://ubu.com/film/dziga_vertov.html

nice one thx

i forget how deeeeeep ubuweb goes

while we're crushing

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most beautiful woman of all time probably

anna karina vs catherine deneuve

Anna Karina = classic babe for ILM dudes

seeing that scene for the first time was like a deep & expansive cinematic ~moment~ for me

I'd give a slight edge to Monica Vitti over either. I got through the first two parts of Histoires, quite absorbed by it, and the disc started acting up--I'll have to return it unfinished. Never got to the really sentimental parts that were my favourite the first time I saw it.

I'd do an arty film babe poll if it wasn't such a bad idea.

which film is that gif from again?

^^Le petit soldat

Someone like Jean-Luc Godard is for me intellectual counterfeit money when compared to a good kung fu film.”

- Werner Herzog

“… his gifts as a director are enormous. I just can’t take him very seriously as a thinker — and that’s where we seem to differ, because he does. His message is what he cares about these days, and, like most movie messages, it could be written on the head of a pin. But what’s so admirable about him is his marvelous contempt for the machinery of movies and even movies themselves — a kind of anarchistic, nihilistic contempt for the medium — which, when he’s at his best and most vigorous, is very exciting.”

- Orson Welles

“I’ve never gotten anything out of his movies. They have felt constructed, faux intellectual and completely dead. Cinematographically uninteresting and infinitely boring. Godard is a fucking bore. He’s made his films for the critics. One of the movies, Masculin féminin: 15 faits précis (1966), was shot here in Sweden. It was mind-numbingly boring.”

-Ingmar Bergman

You could basically make a poll of the swipes Bergman took at other directors.

Bergman was Challops-y before it was cool.

"But what’s so admirable about him is his marvelous contempt for the machinery of movies and even movies themselves — a kind of anarchistic, nihilistic contempt for the medium — which, when he’s at his best and most vigorous, is very exciting.”

- Orson Welles

No idea where OW was seeing this. If anything Godard's LOVE for cinema is what spurred him on to question and "play" with it is a medium. The other two guys - ehh.

Herzog and Bergman are great without a doubt but i think JLG just went over Herzog's head. I wouldn't consider Godard a fake intellectual - the man seems to know his stuff re: literature, music, politics. And Bergman - always miserable.

really jay vee? isn't that like NEW WAVE reduced to a sentence?

i would say an anarchistic contempt for the machinery of movies is what makes something like pierrot le fou work

course all of those new wave techniques are now part of the machinery of movies

not sure why but basically i give zero shits what any film director thinks of any other director

herzog is echt deutsch romantisches lieder which is why he "hates" JLG (ie same reason he vocally hates continental philosophy) and i doubt very much herzog is doing anything but trolling there

Captain Jay Vee, the important part of Welles' quote for me is questioning the validity of JLG's ideas.

when i saw herzog talk in LA someone asked him about the connection between schopenhauer and fitzcarraldo and herzog gave this brutally short reply where he said he didn't give a shit about any philosophy let alone schopenhauer whom he thought was particularly lame, and that he thought the tradition of continental cultural crit was basically petty nonsense for a class of small-minded pseudointellectual who cannot approach ART on ART's LEVEL.

it's funny i was just about to post “cinema is lies at 24 frames per second in the service of truth" which turns out to be haneke, not godard! i always thought godard said that, based on how i, uh, read my favorite works of his.

I bought a used copy of Richard Brody's book yesterday. I looked at it for five minutes, not sure if it was the one I'd already read, which thankfully turned out to be Colin MacCabe's.

Brody's book is interesting. I disagreed with a number of assessments and conclusions he made throughout, but I didn't know a lot about the background of Godard and what he was doing so it was worth the time for me. Enjoyable enough, at any rate.

cinema is lies at 24 frames per second = godard's old aphorism, more or less
in the service of truth = haneke's lutheran moralist appendage

Curious what year that Welles quote is from. Was period Godard was he referring to? Pre DV or during? Just curious...

"What period Godard"