Ariel Pink

In case anyone missed the Wire interview, I quote: 'Beta males have got it figured out so that they don't even have to chase or rape their prey, so to speak'. Urgh, what a creep.

dig the production on mature themes, and i like that a few of the songs recall 'menopause' man, mix and tone-wise. the "tried to be good, to be good, etc." song sticks in the head. ultra-blissed, even SAW II-like track 12 (nostradamus), and 13 is a summer-time-y treat

if the songwriting is not good, nothing can save the record

In case anyone missed the Wire interview, I quote: 'Beta males have got it figured out so that they don't even have to chase or rape their prey, so to speak'. Urgh, what a creep.

I have no idea what I'm supposed to take away from this snippet. I guess I should read the entire interview.

He expounds this completely idiotic thesis about the ascent of the beta male. Now that the nerds have won, Ariel can get his revenge over alpha males and the women who wouldn't sleep with him. Revenge of the nerd stuff at its most vindictive, misanthropic and misogynistic. As a friend put it, 'Turns out, according to Ariel, you don't have to be a musclebound jock to be an asshole to women any more. It's a great time to be an asshole!'
There are few ok songs on here, but nothing he hasn't done better in the past. And the R Stevie Moore homages are utterly charmless. His whole deliberately bored delivery is a real drag too.

cripes, that's a bummer, but not a shock ... ariel seems like an oddball, though was hoping for something less vicious. why not just think everyone's got there place in society and move on. ::[]

whole thing is on NPR now
http://www.npr.org/2012/08/12/158442302/first-listen-ariel-pinks-haunted-graffiti-mature-themes

Eight tracks into this and the single's been the only really good song.

I like it, but I feel like he should be putting these kinds of records out once or twice a year on Paw Tracks. It doesn't feel like two years worth of work.

tbf, he spent a lot of that time figuring out how not to rape his prey

he's still probably looking for a girl who puts up with his shit and puts out just like a little girl scout.

I mean chick

I feel like he should be putting these kinds of records out once or twice a year on Paw Tracks. It doesn't feel like two years worth of work.

kind of agree with this. it's not awful but ... not very good either. I doubt I'll buy it. I went ahead and just got the "Baby" single (which is great).

I'd rather listen to the original tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONIJXHvoynw

yeah, i don't see the point of the cover. the orignal is awesome, as is the rest of the album it came from.

I wonder how much time he actually spent on this. Pink Slime must have been written fairly recently right?

You all realize musicians often have mood swings and may be under the influence of drugs or attention when taking an interview.

Once you are popular and fashionable you are not a nerd.

That's my point - he's the nerd who's become popular and with his new found sense of power all his seething resentment floods out. I'm sure Mr Pink is no stranger to the devil's dandruff, but the pish he comes out with the interview is backed up by lyrics on the album. Plus it's in the Wire, hardly known for its sensationalist approach.

The album definitely picks up a bit towards the end but, no, I doubt I'll buy this. 'Schnitzel Boogie' followed by 'Symphony of the Nymph' is the low point.

Symphony of the Nymph is the creepy nadir, plus it manages to rip off Kraftwerk and Telstar and still be shit.

In case anyone missed the Wire interview, I quote: 'Beta males have got it figured out so that they don't even have to chase or rape their prey, so to speak'. Urgh, what a creep.

― Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Saturday, August 11, 2012 7:32 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

URGH. Total creep. I haven't read the interview in The Wire, but I did read a really dopey interview in Bomb and I was trying my best not to let affect my opinion of the music.

I'm really enjoying the record in spite of myself.

The one with Cass McCombs? Just looked this up. Good lord, bisexuals are castrated? Young people defining themselves as bi is 'a mutation'? This guy is a fucking moron.

AP It’s a good point, so the people that go to action are the kids. Therefore music is targeted to a youth audience. The youth are castrating themselves. Willingly. That political correctness thing. Everybody’s bi now. Have you noticed that?

CM Outside of San Francisco?

AP Everybody under 27 years old. Every girl I’ve ever met who’s under 27: bi. Call me old-fashioned. That did not happen in my generation. I find it very disturbing, frankly. The Millennials are what I’m talking about—they have no gender. Their gender is a biological imperative. It can’t be a choice, of course. They’re just born bi. Maybe it’s a mutation or something like that.

i have no idea what he is getting at there. maybe its a joke? he's being ironic?

still doesn't make sense

He's just trying to get some transgressive millennial groupie action.

i really love this record after 5 or 6 listens. was not super impressed after the first

wtf

The Entertainment Law Digest has posted details of a lawsuit filed by former Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti drummer Aaron Sperske, who claims that he was illegally "squeezed out" of an "oral partnership" agreement established between the band members in 2008.
Sperske alleges that he and the three remaining Haunted Graffiti members-- Pink (real name Ariel Rosenberg), Tim Koh, and Kenny Gilmore-- wrote the songs for the upcoming record Mature Themes together and that he's entitled to 25 percent ownership. He claims he's "entitled to profits from royalties and future shows," writes Entertainment Law Digest, and is seeking $1 million in punitive damages. (Cole M. Greif-Neill was originally part of the partnership as well, but "left the partnership of his own accord in 2010," according to Entertainment Law Digest.)
According to the lawsuit, which was filed on August 12 in Los Angeles, Sperske was removed from the band in spite of performing "diligently and competently."

I agree with a lot of the sentiments expressed so far. I'd be willing to bet RSM wrote Symphony of the Nymph and dared AP to put it on the album. It's definitely the least charming thing Ariel's ever released.

I doubt Ariel Pink was ever a nerd. I remember the real nerds in high school. They had visible plaque in their teeth and sat by themselves at lunch, and were genuinely ostracized. There's a difference between feeling like a nerd in high school and actually being one, and adults should be able to look back and recognize the difference.

Also Ariel's arrested development was kind of cute when he was 26, but at 33 it's kind of gross.

this guy has always sucked </shakey mo>

Listened to this yesterday and liked it more than I expected. Definitely a return to his earlier work and very goofy throughout. I can understand why it isn't getting much love. It doesn't really measure up to the last one, but I think I'll still listen to it a bunch.

Self-described Beverly Hills yuppie in saying dumb shit shockah

maybe he's just trying to compete with his homeboy john maus

fuck both of these guys with a doo-doo covered stick

love both of these guys and also doo-doo

Ariel Pink is actually my great-grand-nephew. I think he's done a fine job here; I like this almost as much as the Chess soundtrack, which happens to be the only other CD I have in the house, though I'm sure I must have bought some others at some point and then just mislaid them. Symphony of the Nymph is the standout track on the album (I mean Ariel's album; One Night in Bangkok is the standout on Chess) with its deft rhyming of "discotheque" and "bibliotheque", "Lothario" and "Ariel", "synth" and "nymph". It's hella catchy; when I sing it at my local bakery they give me free bagels. To go.

I can just imagine the video, with Ariel recreating Nijinsky's role (a sort of graceful brindled cow) in L'Apres Midi d'une Faune. But wait, Nijinsky played the faun in that! Lydia Nelidova was the nymph! Well, okay, Ariel would have to play Lydia's character. But considering his tirades against modern bisexuality in recent interviews, Ariel would find that role reversal really fucked up, and a bad example for the youth of America. Hmmm.

Here's what I suggest. Ariel plays a really butch lesbian bitch of a nymph, in the cow suit, with, you know, udders everywhere. Then some crass cisgendered rock chick groupie with pink hair comes along and milks him in this really suggestive way, with her mouth, in this disco-library-type milking stall, until out spurts... not milk, not spunk, but pure 1960s-grade alpha-methylphenethylamine. Some of it spills on the ground, and seven librarian sluts get down on their knees and snort it up. Then they strap on guitars and recreate Robert Palmer's Addicted To Love. But instead of Palmer, there's Ariel, still dressed as a cow, on the mic.

I'm going to email him right now and suggest this. He's still got about eight weeks before he hits the obsolescent scrapheap, so with a non-union crew it could just be possible.

What kind of fucking high brow trolling is this?

not his best work imo

high brow?

I doubt Ariel Pink was ever a nerd. I remember the real nerds in high school. They had visible plaque in their teeth and sat by themselves at lunch, and were genuinely ostracized. There's a difference between feeling like a nerd in high school and actually being one, and adults should be able to look back and recognize the difference.

― 3×5, Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:32 PM (Yesterday)

i don't know whether ariel is real or faux nerd. either way, it does seem like he's competing with maus and adam from girls to be some new kind of "real (gross) nerd" icon.

Grampsy on chillwave thread = Lampsy

Um. I'm pretty sure John Maus has never been horrendously bi- and trans-phobic, and if you guys are comparing his comments on record shops to this shit, then you are fucking awful people.

"high brow"

http://michaeljswart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Using-That-Word.png

tbf this is what grampsy's eyebrows look like

http://m.popstar.com/Gallery/Celebrity/D/David+Hemmings/Photos/00000004-6004.jpg

my favorite part of the wire interview is when AP suggests that maybe 6-7% of ppl in the world have heard of him.

Um. I'm pretty sure John Maus has never been horrendously bi- and trans-phobic, and if you guys are comparing his comments on record shops to this shit, then you are fucking awful people.

― emil.y, Sunday, August 19, 2012 12:12 PM (33 minutes ago)

well, as a happily self-confessed awful person, i'm comparing only the oddball affectations, not degree of evil or anything

lol i wonder if Metallica has even reached that many people (xpost)

...but yeah, maus hasn't said anything anywhere near as repellent, afaik

420 Million Ariel Pink Fans Can't Be Wrong

Maus seems really tedious but I'm pretty sure Pink is just doing a Lou Reed / Bowie kind of schtick.