funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

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no, no. its just crap. its almost like funky gone easy listening.

uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

"its almost like (x) gone easy listening" is a black hole into which all interesting thought goes to die.

People have said the same of all manner of awesome tunes over the years. But anyway it's not even true, the groove is really muscular and the xylophone hook is totally ravey.

Tim F, Friday, 23 January 2009 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

'Inflation' is almost like a tighter relative of 2-Step/UKG's 'Endorphins'. The beat is hugely propulsive, largely down to the snare pattern (first hit is on the first beat of the bar), and the track has a huge amounts of vibez and tension.

Ach!, Monday, 26 January 2009 04:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Spot on, "propulsive" is precisely the word. There's a sense in which it really perfects (in the sense of intensifying it to a point it's difficult to imagine bettering) the vibey energy of the funky's snare heavy sound without actually having to go down the grime route (the easiest way to know that someone is full of shit w/r/t funky is that they only like post-"Seasons" tunes that emphatically adopt grime/dubsteppy rhythmic ideas - now obv. "Seasons" is classic, but I like the way "Inflation" feels incredibly energetic but not at all aggressive).

Tim F, Monday, 26 January 2009 07:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i caught up with Arms remixes showreel i downloaded a while back and they're all terrific - best of this subgenre i've heard so far

Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2009 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link

That's the broken beat end of the genre I guess. Agree that his stuff has a subtlety and er "depth" that's missing from a lot of the others. He seems like the MJ Cole of this stuff to me...

J@cob, Monday, 26 January 2009 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link

princess's remix of 'party hard' is A+

lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2009 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

the track has a huge amounts of vibe

funnily enough, i heard what sounded like a budget roy ayers remix of inflation a little while ago on rinse i think. had some strange attempts at soloing which made me lol a bit.

uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 26 January 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

titchy might be thinking (...) of kentphonik's sultry 'sunday showers', or (as noted by prancehall) akefe iku's 'mirror dance', both of which could be seen as jazzier 'inflation' xylobites. wrongly.

not to k-punkture the polemic and all but shamefully i must admit that the nomenclature does also hold a certain allure - what mightve merely been a rote afro bubbler now looms with vague zeitgeist doom, absurdly escalating and fluttering up like an exploded suitcase of worthless trillion-dollar zimbabwean bills. feels crafty! the credit crunch ep from which it is supposedly taken will mercifully over-egg that notion though.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:17 (fifteen years ago) link

barely inflected “quality” productions so full of “soul” that there was no room left for a tune, so “deep” that all topographical dynamism gets smothered, all made by “cats” so jive that a positive reaction from plebian suburban, adolescent, gay, drug-using and/or female audiences would be rejected with distaste even if it was possible.

gotta hand it 2 u tho titch, you upped ur word game for this bad boy!

r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:20 (fifteen years ago) link

come to think of it though - i do like that recessionista waffle in terms of localising the proto-everything idealisation of funky. when else was house, bleep (i fought roska but couldnt ever rule him out), rnb (magic touch pro's 'signed and sealed', that 'sexy sixty seconds' one - shouldnt someone be mentioning these?), ragga and (oh yes) acid jazz all at play but the early 90s - grimness, pirate radio, south london, a general rebirth of uk ownbrand music of all stripes, all of that. context music! just er, substitute the bongo for the breakbeat. soul 2 soul woman's daughter winning x-factor IT IS A PORTENT DON'T U SEE

r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

with me as the jeezy of uh-wait-a-sec-how-is-this-actually-relevant-to-what-i'm-hearing-NO-ONE-SAID-THIS-ABOUT-'THE-GREAT-DEPRESSION'-BY-DMX flimsy social crit, natch

r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.bm-soho.com/store/AutoKey/101604/mr/mathziap

btw who's heard any djs/sets playing anything off this besides footloose? i declare it canon.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link

what mightve merely been a rote afro bubbler now looms with vague zeitgeist doom

ha this is actually totally right! there's definitely a kind of menace in the way it builds and builds. roska mixes it into 'sunday showers' on his fact mix, it's definitely a reply of sorts to it, the stabby strings as well as the xylophone riff. and one of those mr mathz tracks also has xylophone action, truly it is the sound of 09.

also feeling jalla's 'turbulence', which uses 'who's afraid of detroit?' as a jump-off point for a lovely zig-zagging riff.

a heads-up - www.invasionrecords.co.uk now has an mp3 store - pick up the crop for me right now is 'hips'...

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link

i bet they thought they were being really clever by calling it inflation and having a xylophone riff that goes up and down, up and down, etc etc. 'see what weve done there?!??!?!'

ive not listened to marcus nasty in weeks. might see him on sunday tho.

uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Where's he playing on Sunday?

Mirror-spangled elephant head (J@cob), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

fwd at plastic ppl, if youre in london.

uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

has anyone been to the yellow night which is on saturday? keep meaning to go, but can't make it this time. will be seeing d-malice and kode9 @ night slugs tomorrow though!

lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2009 10:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Sshh Titchy.

r|t|c I ritualistically support your posts as ever but is there a glossary somewhere...?

Tim F, Thursday, 29 January 2009 10:25 (fifteen years ago) link

not been yellow, no. i wanna see kode 9 deejay funky though. as long as he doesnt have spaceape mc on top ;)

uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 29 January 2009 10:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Now that I'm in London i really want to go to one of those club E3/Stratford/Dagenham style funky raves rather than centrally located dubsteppy things. Anyone know a good source of info about them? Might go to FWD on sunday though...

Mirror-spangled elephant head (J@cob), Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link

facebook is the place to find and keep up with funky events from what i can find, myspace is usually more difficult

this is good also

http://www.nuthingsorted.com/

there is a big one coming up at Babalou in Brixton later this month...

Dub Organiser and Cartel Family Presents: The Producers House Feb 27 Babalou, Brixton

Fingaprint
Roska
Cooly G
Perempay
Hardhouse Banton b2b Dubplate Wonder
Lewis Williams

£5 before 12 / £10 after

No hats hoods or sports wear.

Benjamin, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

ahhhh that looks awesome, i am def going to try to reach that...

circle events are on hiatus for 6 months but this is their adults only side project - they're doing a night tomorrow, had contemplated trying to do both it and night slugs but i have a feeling that won't happen.

lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2009 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

that does look sick, i bet the tunes will be storming. although the repeated emphasis on maturity is a little much!

interesting how they use 'DUBBAGE' to describe some of the stuff they play, never heard that before... Tippa has his myspace as House & Dubbage. anyone know what that's about?

Benjamin, Friday, 30 January 2009 10:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Do not approve of 'dubbage' as a term, if only because if it takes off it's only a matter of time before someone moves to coin the pop version of the term and then, ugh, do not want.

Matt DC, Friday, 30 January 2009 10:44 (fifteen years ago) link

It sounds like an unpleasant vegetable.

Mirror-spangled elephant head (J@cob), Friday, 30 January 2009 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link

House & Garub

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 30 January 2009 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Do not approve of 'dubbage' as a term, if only because if it takes off it's only a matter of time before someone moves to coin the pop version of the term and then, ugh, do not want.

i don't follow?! am i being slow

does anyone know what it means though? is it describing the kind of weirder side of new US garage? im quite intrigued

Benjamin, Friday, 30 January 2009 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Y're not slow and y're better off not knowing.

Ozman Bin Laden (Raw Patrick), Friday, 30 January 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Fuzzy Logick has some great new tracks, typically in a billion different styles. "Roots" is a ridiculously intense asymmetrical piano stomper, a similar blunt-axe syncopated groove to "Twiss". Meanwhile another tune which I think is called "In The Morning" is an insane vocal anthem, massive bouncy beat, enormous synthesiser spurts and a fabulous diva vocal. It's very freestyle or early Jam & Spoon.

There's also a lot of tracks that sound a lot like early LFO - those same slippery, slithery weedy electro melodies. Roska's "In Your Handbag" obv, but lots of others whose names i don't know. Ironically Mr Roach's actual "LFO" sampling tune isn't terribly good, though Hardcore Continuum literalists who tend toward a "tell don't show" critical mindset have already bigged it up a bit excessively.

Really enjoying Marcus's 7th January set too. Would love an ID on the compulsive latin-ish track with the cut-up vocals that comes after Mak 10's boring stomper at about the 66 minute mark. It's only marginally less aggressive than the Mak 10 track, but somehow falls just on the right side of sexy.

Tim F, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

kylas do you mind is getting a lot of attention now its being re-released.... i dont think its happening really but if they get her some more decent songs, she might actually become a bit of a pop star.

p-noid (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm all about the 21st Jan podcast myself. Really want some more info on the run of tracks around the 53 min mark onwards - some amazing stuff.

Mirror-spangled elephant head (J@cob), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

do you guys have links for those podcasts? think im about ready to hear another Marcus Nasty show!

In The Morning is getting a lot of love, reckon it could do pretty well if its well handled. Freestyle is very true. The more time goes by the more I feel that Fuzzy Logik has a vibe most of the new uk producers don't and that I wish they did... that ability to walk the line between a melodic and evocative house sound and complete weirdness and ruffness, while being distinctly UK and fresh. things seem quite polarised in the trickle of new stuff im hearing coming from most... exceptions are there but fewer than would be good

Benjamin, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

or rather, do you guys have links for those podcasts please :)

another one on that vibe i mention, that im just cottoning on to, is Ill Blu

Benjamin, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

MNs show tonight was really good. that fuzzy logik one thats kinda like funky-gone-80s electro soul was the best of the lot but i liked that kanye cover too and there was another track that had an almost live broken beat drum loop going on that got quite a few rewinds (i love that rankin has maybe only 5 verses).

p-noid (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Isn't Ill Blu the guy who produced "Frontline"?

Tim F, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link

yeh he is, i was enthused from hearing a great remix by him today of Floetry - Say Yes, but in fact checking back on his myspace it seems that he errs more to the grimey side of things than i remembered

Benjamin, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

what is kyla wearing in this? lol

p-noid (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

FaZe - Funky Dirt Dub Mix Up Jan09(45Mins)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/5445522992949852/

FaZe - January 09 Funky Mix (45MINS)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/544587485322844e/
http://rapidshare.com/files/184025030/FaZe_-_January_09_Funky_Mix.mp3

FaZe - Deep & Soulful House Session 09 (80MINS)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/53766174fffcf65c/
http://rapidshare.com/files/180235787/FaZe_-_Soulful_House_Session_Volume_One_January_08.mp3

FaZe - December 08 Funky Mix (45MINS)
http://rapidshare.com/files/172507503/FaZe_-_December_08_Funky_Mix.mp3

all mixes contain the tracklists in the lyrics section of the id3 tag

faze01, Thursday, 5 February 2009 01:28 (fifteen years ago) link

AHHHH roska 'our father', who else has heard this gorgeous airy tranciness!

lex pretend, Thursday, 5 February 2009 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link

hi guys, I'm interested in this funky house music. could you recommend me some mixes that's perfect to be my gateway? i've downloaded a marcus nasty mix from FACT but the sound quality is unbelievably crap.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 8 February 2009 03:14 (fifteen years ago) link

is Supa D's Rinse 03 good?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 8 February 2009 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link

no its not. just go to the rinse fm site and download some recent marcus nasty sets. or scout around and try and find some of the ones from mid last year.

p-noid (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 8 February 2009 11:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm all about the 21st Jan podcast myself. Really want some more info on the run of tracks around the 53 min mark onwards - some amazing stuff.

the one coming in at 55:30ish is Inflation by Crazy Cousinz but i guess you probably know that?

the one getting pulled at about 1hr1min is by Altered Natives, i think its called Brass Out. apparently very soon to drop. broken beat crew coming through very strong!

on which note has anyone checked the new Ear Dis single? Down With Me... its amazing

1hr07 is D Malice, i think Visions

Benjamin, Sunday, 8 February 2009 13:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm shocked to see that rinse fm podcasts are at 64 kbps. no way i'm downloading those.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 8 February 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

it kind of makes sense just cause rinse streams at that kbps.

but yeah, annoying when obv. would be totally easy for them to record and up some sets in less shit quality.

Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Sunday, 8 February 2009 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link

they're completely listenable though to be fair. i would be more disappointed to hear pirate radio through pristinely recorded 320kbps to be honest

Benjamin, Sunday, 8 February 2009 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

well they have pretensions towards being commercial so it would be fine with me for it to be reflected in the bitrate. I don't think they're completely listenable, put any sort of volume on them and the bass sounds like complete ass.

Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Sunday, 8 February 2009 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

128-192 is the ideal bitrate for radio shows i think. lower and higher then i'll think twice before downloading.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 8 February 2009 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

128-192 is the ideal bitrate for radio shows i think. lower or higher then i'll think twice before downloading.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 8 February 2009 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link


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