Every huge artist has their "New Jersey" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline

wasn't it used in a commercial a few years ago?

ok so actually does anyone mind if I take out No Need To Argue? I think my judgement may have been clouded by the anti-"Zombie" bile on here, it's not like Cranberries fans per se have obvious beef with it, could definitely be argued To The Faithfully Departed (which still sold 2x platinum) was their Fairweather Johnson.

In the US, I feel like there was maybe a two-month period where you would hear "D'ya Know What I Mean" and "Don't Go Away" in not-very-heavy rotation, and then they just disappeared. I heard "Don't Go Away" at the grocery store earlier this year and was kind of floored like, how did that make the playlist?

A Be Here Now is probably its own shorthand already, right? For a massively anticipated album that just disappoints everyone from the word go, incredibly negative critical consensus, sense that success has gone to the band's heads. Fairweather Johnsons just miss the moment and fade into the night, Be Here Nows suck and everybody knows it.

xpost i kinda like "all around the world" tho

keeping Rattle & Hum cuz some people obviously want it, plus fuck U2

BHN got spectacular reviews in England iirc

The level of hubris around Oasis was so great in 1997 that everyone who reviewed it convinced themselves it was a classic and then got very embarrassed when they'd calmed down a bit.

Kind of interested to see how this poll rolls - - glad it's "Best" rather than "Worst," since the latter would just be piling up conventional wisdom on albums that we all know suck.

I'm also amazed, by the way, that we've gone this long without any die-hard Bon Jovi fans - - Googler or otherwise - - barging in to lecture us on how New Jersey is amazing and that true Jovvalos widely agree that it, not Slippery When Wet, is their real lasting achievement.

i will take "I'll Be There For You" over "Wanted Dead Or Alive"

waht is springsteens new jersey

The 5 CD live set, Live 1975-1985

considered it but nah, followed by Tunnel Love which is still adored as hell.

also remarkable display of hubris or no, weird to say the mega-live set signaled a career decline for a guy who's never not filled those stadiums since

btw, just wanted to share this: the first Google search result for "what are bon jovi fans called" begins ominously: The Bon Jovi fan fiction community is small, with the few communities out there not being...

did not find out what bon jovi fans are called, leaning towards "Jovvalos" or perhaps "Bon Bronies"

Afterburner is probably the most archetypical of these because woah 5 million copies and you never hear any of those songs anymore, plus it's called AFTERBURNER for chrissakes

If Human Touch & Lucky Town had been combined for a one album release I bet that would have pushed past 3x platinum and then be his jersey.

Would go for the Love Symbol album over D&P tbh. D&P was surely more of a mini-comeback after Graffiti Bridge and allowing for the novelty of Batman.

former too bloated, less memorable singles, certainly somewhat less successful units wise

You definitely hear My Name is Prince/SexyMF/Morning Papers etc less than D&P/Cream/Money Dont matter

Yeah, now I understand the question better, I vote that too.

i will take "I'll Be There For You" over "Wanted Dead Or Alive"

you are certifiably insane

Would go for the Love Symbol album over D&P tbh

I was thinking this, but I really like Love Symbol and I DESPISE Diamonds and Pearls aside from "Gett Off"

wait you didn't include my simple minds example. or didn't it sell enough? it must have sold millions.

I def prefer the NJ singles to Slippery When Wet's.

Critical consensus round Be Here Now: iirc NME embarrassed themselves by giving What's The Story a (6), only to greet BHN with a euphoric (9).

There was definitely something in the air you could see coming, though - I had everything Oasis released up to the lead single (which I even liked), but was not for a second tempted to buy BHN.

Does anyone have an argument against Jewel's Spirit as an NJ?

Can we clear up whether it's 'an NJ' or 'a NJ' first please?

Scott, Simple Minds only went gold in the US. UK different story.

At the risk of getting stabbed through the internet, I could see an argument for Around The World In A Day in the sense that it went 3x platinum, which is better than any album since including Batman and Sign O' The Times (which as a 2CD only has to sell half as many copies to get the award). While he had plenty of hits after (and movies!), it seems like America was a little scared to buy a full-length on the level of Purple Rain after "America."

I liked "D'ya Know What I Mean" a lot more than any other Oasis song I'd heard up to that point, although still not enough to actually consider purchasing the album

Maybe there's another thread in the "This is great, but now it's done" vein, where the band/artist achieve the close.

Spirit only had one hit, which is a little Fairweather Johnson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEM78ElGthI

The intro sounds like ZZ Top attempting "Rockit."

Vox gave BHN a 9 as well

I would go for either the live album or Street Fighting Years over OUAT; if only for the fact that for millions the latter was their first SM album

Stones - It's Only Rock and Roll? I can see Black and Blue but this could fit.

i love that video so much - in the drive to top the Eliminator videos, ZZ Top now have the ability to make tents out of thin air.

3x platinum cut-off, people. 3x platinum.

as mentioned upthread, all Stones albums are Events. Plus, their two biggest sellers came out after IOR&R.

The level of hubris around Oasis was so great in 1997 that everyone who reviewed it convinced themselves it was a classic and then got very embarrassed when they'd calmed down a bit.
Yeah this is basically my memory of it. I feel like the realisation of crapness set in a bit more quickly for BHN than for some of the other albums we've been discussing, but again this is just a vauge memory (might check if the BHN wiki has a 'reception' section to give some clarity).

Although initial reviews were positive, retrospectively the album is viewed by much of the music press, the public, and by most members of the band as over-indulgent and bloated.[1] In 2007, Q magazine, having given the album a five-star rave review on its release, described the fact that Be Here Now is often thought of as "a disastrous, overblown folly—the moment when Oasis, their judgement clouded by drugs and blanket adulation, ran aground on their own sky-high self-belief."[2] The album's producer Owen Morris said of the recording sessions: "The only reason anyone was there was the money. Noel had decided Liam was a shit singer. Liam had decided he hated Noel's songs [...] Massive amounts of drugs. Big fights. Bad vibes. Shit recordings."[2]

John Mellencamp - Scarecrow

Spirit only had one hit, which is a little Fairweather Johnson.

Still it went 4X Platinum in America. (And 2X Platinum in Australia)

nah Scarecrow is beloved 'round here, and The Lonesome Jubilee is widely thought his best.

Spirit only had one hit, which is a little Fairweather Johnson.

Still it went 4X Platinum in America. (And 2X Platinum in Australia)

And fairweather went 3x platinum. It's a slippery slope, and I'll include it you plan to say its her best and vote for it.

If people didn't like Lonesome Jubilee it would be his New Jersey, but yeah instead I think Coog is a "Secret Life Of Plants" guy thanks to Big Daddy.

there were at least 2 videos off the Jewel album that i saw a lot of. i think video channels towing the line even when radio shrugs is kind of a hallmark of these albums.

Reviews of Be Here Now explained:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0CrEkeCBSUc/SXyb15grIBI/AAAAAAAAD4I/cu0M3udLLB8/s400/b5f4224128a0ea161e093010._AA240_.L.jpg

How about Tattoo You?

their two biggest sellers came out after IOR&R

For real?! Some Girls and Tattoo You?

Its hodgepodge nature aside, does anybody really think it's hollow?

there were at least 2 videos off the Jewel album that i saw a lot of.

and fairweather had two top 40 hits. if you guys really want to vote for jewel as Best New Jersey i'll add it, but it really does blur the line. it's a 4x platinum album after a diamond release, with only one big hit.

johnson! we've got johnson here!

For real?! Some Girls and Tattoo You?

Check the sales. SG is 7 million.

ways you can escape the new jersey:

EVERY ALBUM IS AN EVENT, BITCHES. PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE SOUNDSCAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN. (i.e. Stones, Michael Jackson)

"I'm going to tone it down a little here so don't feel like you have to buy this....what's that? I only go single platinum if that now? Ah, well. Let's go tour." (i.e. Bruce, Coug, Sting)

if my judgment of the past is unreliable, pardon my cracked rearview

does anyone have an issue with Around The World In A Day making the list? If your name rhymes with Shman Shmerry, just consider it an easy pick to vote for.

*sits in corner, sadly contemplating the girl on the seesaw*

it is the kind of album you find in a second-hand store

yeah it's really the fact that it's sold more than any of the albums since, whether critical beasts with #1 hits or Batman soundtracks, despite being considered one of his weakest efforts (if still arguably godly depending on your pov) that really makes it stand out.