Self-Referencing In Songs - Classic or Dud?

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the "relax" bassline/drums are reprised (or, er, predicted) at the beginning of abc's "date stamp."

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 16:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think there's a bit at the end of a song (from memory, sorry) on SY's Hold That Tiger live thing where it all collapses and one of the guitars springs up with a two-second chug-chug-chug-bend riff that HAS to be a nascent "Kool Thing."

Also, Ian Svenonius to thread.

g.cannon (gcannon), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 17:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Iggy Pop's "China Girl" - "Oh Jimmy, just you hush your mouth." or whatever he says.

nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 19:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can't believe no one's mentioned...

Hang on John / John hang on -- Lennon

Aaron, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 19:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hang on John / John hang on -- Lennon

Loads of Lennon solo songs (or at least post-Yoko -- "Ballad of...") qualify here. He seems to be more a blurring of the private and public (see also:Eminem) than simply being self-referential.

(also I’ll add Miss Dy-Na-Mi-Tee-Hee and Belle and Sebastian.)

scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 19:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sunrise, wrong side of another day,
Sky high and six thousand miles away,
Don't know how long I've been awake,
Wound up in an amazing state,
Can't get enough,
And you know it's righteous stuff,
Goes up like prices at Christmas,
Motorhead, you can call me Motorhead, alright

Brain dead, total amnesia,
Get some mental anasthesia,
Don't move, I'll shut the door and kill the lights,
And if I can't be wrong I could be right,
All good clean fun,
Have another stick of gum,
Man, you look better already,
Motorhead, remember me now Motorhead, alright

Fourth day, five day marathon,
We're moving like a parallelogram,
Don't move, I'll shut the door and kill the lights,
I guess I'll see you all on the ice,
I should be tired,
And all I am is wired,
Ain't felt this good for an hour,
Motorhead, remember me now, Motorhead alright

Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 19:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

You should all be very ashamed at yourselves for this thread getting so far without a nod to the greatest exponents of this outside rap: put your hands together for Mott The Hoople, the greatest self-mythologising act before Eminem!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 20:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

". . . you might find Wildlife in your own backyard"

dan (dan), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 21:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

"No my name ain't baby, it's Janet..." etc.

The interesting footnote here is that even this line did not render the song uncoverable.

Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 23:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

so who covered it? And what did they say at this point?

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 07:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic: Felt's "Ballad of the Band", which is all about Maurice Deebank leaving, and mentions a couple of songs from their previous albums. And Denim's "Back in Denim", amongst others.

Andrew Norman, Wednesday, 2 October 2002 08:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

MarkH, I believe it was Killdozer (B side?) and they said the same thing!

Britney's done it live too I think.

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 2 October 2002 10:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

eighteen years pass...

Revive!

I'm delighted I've found this thread because for my regular quiz on Sunday, I've decided to feature a round of self-referencing songs in which the participants aren't told what the theme is - they have to figure it out from a bunch of 15-second intros.

Any others you can think of that were not mentioned in the old thread above (18 years ago!)?

Hot Chip's The Warning, for example, included the gently intoned line "Hot Chip will break your legs".

giraffe, Friday, 20 November 2020 10:10 (three years ago) link

Amy Grant - Saved by Love

aphoristical, Friday, 20 November 2020 10:13 (three years ago) link

Show me a word that rhymes with Pavement
And I won't kill your parents
And roast them on a spit

(Harness your Hopes)

the 120 days of sod 'em (ledge), Friday, 20 November 2020 10:26 (three years ago) link

Iggy Pop - "Dum Dum Boys"

willem, Friday, 20 November 2020 10:31 (three years ago) link

Hallelujah, hallelujah
When Shaun William Ryder
Will lie down beside ya
Fill you full of junk

Happy Mondays - Hallelujah. Love that line!

the article don, Friday, 20 November 2020 10:57 (three years ago) link

Polygon Window "UT1-dot" has an almost indecipherable robo voice that says something akin to 'introducing integration in step with electronic techno music controlled manually by Aphex Twin programs'. The rare self ref in a chin-strokey electronica work, although the track actually slaps.

Sushi and the Banchan (Spectrist), Friday, 20 November 2020 11:21 (three years ago) link

In that case there's also Autechre's Goz Quarter, with a sample of Kool Keith saying something that sounds like (but probably isn't) "jam like autechre"

the 120 days of sod 'em (ledge), Friday, 20 November 2020 11:23 (three years ago) link

Another banger along the same lines is Chaos AD "Mind War Electro" which matter of factly repeats the tag of 'acid mind warp electro recorded by Squarepusher, 1995'

Sushi and the Banchan (Spectrist), Friday, 20 November 2020 11:26 (three years ago) link

And of course "Come on you cunts lets have some Aphex acid!"

the 120 days of sod 'em (ledge), Friday, 20 November 2020 11:28 (three years ago) link

Kool and the Gang's "Hollywood Swinging"

I remember
Not too long ago
I went to a theater
And I saw the Kool & The Gang Show

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 November 2020 11:32 (three years ago) link

it render's one's songs uncoverable.

For some reason I'm reminded of the Pet Shop Boys' "We're The Pet Shop Boys", which is self-referential when they perform it, but is itself a cover of a song by an act (My Robot Friend) who was *not* in fact the Pet Shop Boys. And there's a further cover by Robbie Williams!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 20 November 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link

I feel like The Fall must have something like 37 such songs...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 20 November 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

Christy Moore, Cabaret:

Your wife says "Oh not Christy Moore, we've heard him loads of times before, We're gonna miss Gay Byrne on the Late Late Show"

the 120 days of sod 'em (ledge), Friday, 20 November 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

“glass onion”

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Friday, 20 November 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

In Luxuria's Against the Past, they mention "Howard DeVoto Boulevard".

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 20 November 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

There's a much better thread on this here:

Non-rap examples of lyrics where the artist refers to him/herself by name

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 20 November 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

Thanks for the suggestions on here and the signpost to the other thread.

giraffe, Sunday, 22 November 2020 12:42 (three years ago) link

The New Kids on the Bock celebrate the expanse of their 1.5 year-long career in the song 'Tonight'.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Sunday, 22 November 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

The discography of Mike Jones

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Sunday, 22 November 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

Two songs from Sparks:

The Wedding of Jacqueline Kennedy to Russell Mael
The Decline and Fall of Me - "goodbye future Mrs. Mael"

The Roches: The Death Of Suzzy Roche

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

Are You Jimmy Ray?

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link

No, halfway there but for you.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

UTAH SAINTS

ledge, Monday, 23 November 2020 11:55 (three years ago) link


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