― the bellefox, Thursday, 10 June 2004 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 June 2004 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link
Then the Stone Roses made it cool to get off an indie label and if you were on one you were an indie "saddo". (Not "on one" in that sense).
I remember seeing Chadders on Rapido arguing about this, and he made a sensible case; trouble was, he did it in the style of Prince Charles.
Babe Rainbow is a great record, which despite getting I think record of the month in Select was straight to bargain bin territory. The record after that, can't remember when it came out but it was the same day as the first Verve LP was total rubbish; the best track on it having been one of the B-sides from one of the previous record's singles.
― Keith Watson (kmw), Thursday, 10 June 2004 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 10 June 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link
I remember they sounded (and looked?) strangely obselete when that The Stone Roses album started getting big.
― flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 10 June 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 10 June 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Canada Briggs (Canada Briggs), Thursday, 10 June 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Keith Watson (kmw), Thursday, 10 June 2004 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 10 June 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 10 June 2004 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually the sleeve says it's reproduced with kind permission of Peter Blake and PETE TOWNSHEND.
I should know, being a massive W!H!O! fan.
― Keith Watson (kmw), Thursday, 10 June 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
and "Marble"
― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Thursday, 10 June 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Thursday, 10 June 2004 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise is so overwhelming that it renders the contents of the re (ele, Thursday, 10 June 2004 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Keith Watson (kmw), Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise is so overwhelming that it renders the contents of the re (ele, Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― svend (svend), Friday, 11 June 2004 00:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 11 June 2004 00:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise is another unwelcome bonus resulting from a preamp's inab (ele, Friday, 11 June 2004 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 11 June 2004 00:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 11 June 2004 00:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 June 2004 03:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 June 2004 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise is another unwelcome bonus resulting from a preamp's inab (ele, Friday, 11 June 2004 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 June 2004 04:06 (nineteen years ago) link
When I'm drunk in a roomThat's when I think of youOh my baby, she went AWOLDrove to a shop, never to returnAnd it broke me, like a flower
His delivery cracks me up every time, and then the guitar parts are fabulous. Also great for driving because he keeps shouting "and i can't! slow down! no i can't!"
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 11 June 2004 04:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 11 June 2004 05:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 11 June 2004 07:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― flowersdie (flowersdie), Friday, 11 June 2004 08:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise is another unwelcome bonus resulting from a preamp's inab (ele, Friday, 11 June 2004 08:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― flowersdie (flowersdie), Friday, 11 June 2004 08:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise is another unwelcome bonus resulting from a preamp's inab (ele, Friday, 11 June 2004 08:28 (nineteen years ago) link
"Destroy The Heart" remains some kind of anaerobic peak - a high-altitude sprint through a sparkler factory. I love the way Chadwick shadows his vocal with a lower-register double.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 11 June 2004 09:18 (nineteen years ago) link
both the 'christine' and 'destroy the heart' videos are wonderful in their simplicity. one is just a slow 360' pan around the studio as the band play. they open and close the first of those creation videos. http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=285903
― koogs (koogs), Friday, 11 June 2004 11:30 (nineteen years ago) link
N.'s disdain for the butterfly is just unfathomable.
I like reading the lyrics of 'In A Room', above: reminding me what a tremendous, little-known track that is.
― the bellefox, Friday, 11 June 2004 11:48 (nineteen years ago) link
I was going to mention how much I loved 'The Girl With The Loneliest Eyes' but I'm not sure I do anymore. The title is just too meh for me now.
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 11 June 2004 11:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 June 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Babe Rainbow was their masterpiece, terribly underappreciated in my book, and Audience With The Mind was only a tiny step below Rainbow for me. HoL got better with age, not worse.
― Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 12 June 2004 06:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 12 June 2004 06:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Here's an interesting link about the Babe Rainbow painting:
http://www.belgraviagallery.com/DetailBP101.htm
― Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 12 June 2004 06:47 (nineteen years ago) link
I guess if there was any news on the reunion, someone would have already posted it here...
― Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 12 June 2004 06:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― the bellefox, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 10:23 (nineteen years ago) link
This past Sunday, the sun was shining here in London so I went to my local park with the Creation recordings comp to have a little lie-down. I had never really listened to the whole thing through and it was pure bliss. 'Love in Car' really hit me. Wonderful stuff.
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 09:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― piscesboy, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link
"10th OctoberWork is almost complete on the bands new album. Recording is now finished and mixing is well under way. The band are hoping to release the album in early Spring."
Guy and Terry and I think Pete on drums - recording with Pat Collier who did the engineering on their Creation era releases!!! I'm very excited.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link
Wow! Amazing story.
I'll check out the remasters, but the Butterly CD I have (and the streaming versions) sound pretty amazing already - the album has always shimmered.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link
Babe Rainbow is the one for me… they’re not issuing these individually tho, right?
― brimstead, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link
Pete Evans punched Bickers six times in the face, then announced he was leaving the House of Love.
They should have changed their name to House of Blows.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link
Anyone catch them in New York? I'm psyched for the show here Sunday.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link
Also, sad news, just learned that Andrea Heukamp, original HoL rhythm guitarist/singer, recently died. I guess after she left the band she moved back to Germany and lived somewhat as a recluse, reportedly spending the last several years cleaning houses. She was found dead at 57. RIP.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 October 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link
jesus, that's sad news
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 23 October 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link
aw that sucks rip
― nxd, Sunday, 23 October 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link
Wow that is rotten.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 October 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link
Is there any particular article or source for that? I'd like to be able to share the news further.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 October 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link
This would be very sad. Andrea Heukamp had been contributing backing vocals to a band in Münster called Loving the Sun.
There was an obituary published in Münster earlier this month for a 57-year-old employee of the city called Andrea Heukamp, so that could well be her.
She sang vocals on what is probably my favourite House of Love track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lut2wm-qtdk
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Monday, 24 October 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link
I think I saw it on a Steve Hoffman forum thread, and it came by way of a post from someone claiming to be her cousin in a German Rolling Stone forum:
https://forum.rollingstone.de/foren/reply/11898217/
Google translate says:
Rest in peace Andrea Heukamp. (guitarist and background singer of The House Of Love and girlfriend of Chris Groothuisen)Andrea is my cousin, lived in Munster after she left the band. She started with music in a shared apartment here in Münsterland, that's where she met Chris and they later went to London, founded House Of Love and recorded songs and played concerts. The music business and drugs bothered her, she became seriously ill and withdrew. In Münster she lived a secluded life and in recent years has made a living doing housekeeping jobs. My younger brother was in contact with my her right up to the end, he now arranges everything necessary with a friend/partner of Andrea's.Andrea didn't get in touch last week as agreed, she was found lying dead in her room. A heart attack was probably the cause of death. Andrea was only 57 years old.Take care up there, Andrea. It wasn't so nice for you down here. Bye.
Andrea is my cousin, lived in Munster after she left the band. She started with music in a shared apartment here in Münsterland, that's where she met Chris and they later went to London, founded House Of Love and recorded songs and played concerts. The music business and drugs bothered her, she became seriously ill and withdrew. In Münster she lived a secluded life and in recent years has made a living doing housekeeping jobs. My younger brother was in contact with my her right up to the end, he now arranges everything necessary with a friend/partner of Andrea's.Andrea didn't get in touch last week as agreed, she was found lying dead in her room. A heart attack was probably the cause of death. Andrea was only 57 years old.
Take care up there, Andrea. It wasn't so nice for you down here. Bye.
So I guess there's a chance it's not accurate, but at the same time, no reason to believe it isn't, sadly.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 October 2022 04:20 (one year ago) link
perhaps they are unjustly neglected in 2023. I splurged for the Fontana box and yes it sounds wonderful. I like the butterfly album a lot more now, except for “never”.I don’t really know what to say about this music. I think their records sound fabulous and guy had a real unique sensitive middle aged guy voice. The guitar playing is exquisite and vividly colorful, lush like fresh fruit, the drums hit just right in that British anthemic way…
― brimstead, Friday, 19 May 2023 20:08 (eleven months ago) link
“shine on” really is sheer perfection, whichever version
unjustly neglected perfection!
― Terrycoth Baphomet (bendy), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 00:13 (ten months ago) link