List The Direct References of Stereolab

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(aka Moonflies (aka Chris Morris))

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Just got offed, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Does one of those links go to Gil Scott-Heron?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm not a huge stereolab fan, but this list is mindboggling. good work, guys.

ian, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Here's an obscure one - the title of "Animal Or Vegetable (A Wonderful Wooden Reason)" which was on the Crumbduck EP, is a line from a Faust song (at least the bit in brackets is).

everything, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Should also mention the later McCarthy releases which offer a neat segueway into the first Stereolab record. (eg: "The Home Secretary Briefs the Forces of Law and Order").

everything, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.uh.edu/engines/switchedonbach.jpg

dmr, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Does one of those links go to Gil Scott-Heron?

You're talking about the bass line to "Metronomic Underground," I take it?

jaymc, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Song on Aluminum Tunes:

http://www.reel.com/Content/Reelimages/hollconf/1013_getcarter.jpg

jaymc, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Pack Yr Romantic Mind from Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements begins with a sample from "Pop Orbite", a song on Chico Magnetic Band's album.

oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Obvious one, they recorded a split record with her.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Fontaine
http://www.discogs.com/release/256204

oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I always thought Speedy Car had a bit of the Soft Machine about them.

But if you want to talk United States of America, it's Broadcast on their first album that really rips that.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:35 (sixteen years ago) link

On Dots and Loops.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Brakhage

oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:36 (sixteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Road_Again_(Canned_Heat)

oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link

But if you want to talk United States of America, it's Broadcast on their first album that really rips that.

I agree, I'd prefer to keep this to direct references / uncredited samples / lyrical lifts rather than vaguer incorporated influences or else I'd just be Sylvie Vartaning it up over here

first track on Refried Ectoplasm, 'Harmonium', where the 70's DJ spools up a tape which promptly breaks and falls off the reel is lifted from an aircheck of Negativland's 'Over the Edge Vol 4 - Dick Vaughan'

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.indiatomorrow.net/health/images/lemonade.jpg

- le

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:49 (sixteen years ago) link

great work, Milton!

sleeve, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

This
http://www.yellowmelodies.com/e-zine/numero5/portadas/Stereol7.jpg

is supposed to be based on the comic series Pravda la Survireuse by Guy Peellaert.
http://www.bedetheque.com/thb_couv/pravda.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, this is a nice thread. Milton rocks.

nabisco, do they really reference _À Rebours_? That's one of my favorite books ever.

Turangalila, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Here are the YouTube dissections of musical origins I was talking about. Apart from a couple things that seem too basic to see as steals (e.g., the Canned Heat), they're mostly pretty clear lifts or pastiches, without too many stretches -- and a couple disappointing "oh man, I can't believe you lifted the melody" parts. Mostly it's rhythmic grooves and feels they're snipping from things and using as a basis for their own stuff.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IrFdR7I_kjM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s9N1uwNEraM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=E9iiJy0jWSg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LNAO-vqa6R0

Artists mentioned: Faust, Piero Piccioni, Canned Heat, Gal Costa, Krzystzof Komeda, Kraftwerk, Jean-Michel Jarre, Sun Ra, Snapper, Wanderlea, Laurie Anderson, the Association, the Archies, Serge Gainsbourg, Neu!, Silver Apples, Steve Reich, and Plastic Ono Band (as source of "Emperor Tomato Ketchup" bass line -- this was the only one that kinda surprised me!)

nabisco, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost turangalila I'm not 100% sure. 'against nature' is the title in translation and a direct reference would have used the original french. the lyrics do seem to me like a commentary or response to the book, I linked them upthread

Milton Parker, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link

if it is a reference it's admittedly not a very direct one (though I'm sure they've read it) -- with those lines about 'war', probably something else made the song's orbit as well

I actually liked this translation better, but I went for the pop edition to underscore the reference

Milton Parker, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:31 (sixteen years ago) link

You're talking about the bass line to "Metronomic Underground," I take it?
Yup, that's what I'm talking about, jaymc.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Milton I can't believe you didn't post this -

http://files.myopera.com/E.%20Driver/albums/35120/JohnCage.jpg

Stormy Davis, Thursday, 25 October 2007 01:58 (sixteen years ago) link

xxpost Milton

Hmm... yes. "Living fantasy of the immortal"

thanks!

I've actually only read it in Spanish. Going to buy this version you recommend!

Turangalila, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Gastr del Sol opened for Stereolab at the Metro in Chicago back in the mid-90s, and a couple weeks before the show I bumped into David Grubbs at the Hyde Park Kinko's on 57th St. He showed me the gig flyer he was printing up which read "Stereolab - 'John Cage Bubblegum' / Gastr del Sol - 'Steve Reich n Roll'"

Stormy Davis, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I didn't actually go that show tho. Dumb! I never saw Stereolab.

Stormy Davis, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I HAVE THAT FIRST RECORD!

jaxon, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:21 (sixteen years ago) link

it's been so long, but they ripped the bassline for a song directly from a yoko ono tune from her first or second solo album

jaxon, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.zenker.se/Books/the_stars_my_destination.jpg

dad a, Thursday, 25 October 2007 04:17 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.see.com.au/blog/archives/Darren%20002.jpg

Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 25 October 2007 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Prokofiev's Symphonie Diabolique:
http://website.lineone.net/~dmitrismirnov/image020.jpg

dad a, Thursday, 25 October 2007 04:32 (sixteen years ago) link

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51It1cvE6cL._SS500_.jpg

dad a, Thursday, 25 October 2007 05:27 (sixteen years ago) link

if it is a reference it's admittedly not a very direct one (though I'm sure they've read it) -- with those lines about 'war', probably something else made the song's orbit as well

Well after the lines about war, they've got:
This is the future of an illusion
Aggressive culture of despotism
Living fantasy of the immortal
The reality of an animal

Of course the first line is: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/715CHD055PL._BO2,204,203,200_PIlitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.gif
I wonder if the next three lines are from three other fin-de-siecle sources.

These Robust Cookies, Thursday, 25 October 2007 06:27 (sixteen years ago) link

One of their tracks is based on "Disco Rough" by Mathématiques Modernes.

Raw Patrick, Thursday, 25 October 2007 09:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Can't think of anything less obvious right now (I thought I was a genius for spotting the 100 Years of Solitude thing once and then googled it and nabisco had already written about it on Pitchfork, thus I lose), but "Enivrez-Vous!" from Peng! takes its lyrics from a Baudelaire prose-poem.

I'd always wondered about some of these! Thanks.

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 25 October 2007 10:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe someone knows what that French Disco line really is: Bubble Withdrawal?

Mark G, Thursday, 25 October 2007 10:33 (sixteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucia_Pamela

zeus, Thursday, 25 October 2007 11:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I have her CD somewhere, it is bats!

Mark G, Thursday, 25 October 2007 11:23 (sixteen years ago) link

a lot of that youtube series of comparisons are a little on the vague side, but they're fun

I would not have compared 'Emperor Tomato Ketchup' to 'Why?' by the Plastic Ono Band, I'd have used "Les Histoires D'A" by Les Rita Mitsouko

Stereolab guilty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML9PWVm0wEQ

Milton Parker, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link

& I will post these anyway

Sylvie Vartan - Cette lettre-là (1965)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOlx2MxC6eQ

Sylvie Vartan - Par amour par pitié (1966)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3uL8M0svSQ

Sylvie Vartan - Irresistiblement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZCbwg6VmnI

Milton Parker, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Pack Yr. Romantic Mind:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataille

Bill in Chicago, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.bigoven.com/uploads/margarine.jpg

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 26 October 2007 03:15 (sixteen years ago) link

that was feeble, sorry

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 26 October 2007 03:16 (sixteen years ago) link

brilliant thread, that Jirí Trnka film is mindblowing. good work!

has anyone mentioned family fodder yet?, as a general influence and specifically savoire faire and it's uncanny resemblance to (i think) wow and flutter. was it milton who mentioned upstairs somewhere that sterolab steals seem a bit disingenuous? i dunno if i could go along with that, their references generally seem pretty overt, if obscure. i think it's pretty key to the appeal of stereolab that you just know everything is pilfered.

cw, Friday, 26 October 2007 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Yet nothing sounds quite like Stereolab. Sort of like a robot made of all sorts.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 26 October 2007 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link

holy shit this thread. overwhelming amount of info. more pls!

CharlieNo4, Friday, 26 October 2007 12:22 (sixteen years ago) link

What Charlie No4 said above.

thanks, people

Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 26 October 2007 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link

"All good things to come.."

Mark G, Friday, 26 October 2007 12:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Makes me think it's a direct reference to an indirect reference... or something.

Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Monday, 10 December 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

... a song covered, somewhat bizarrely, by Pete Townshend!

Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Monday, 10 December 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

I heard a radio interview with Tim Gane years ago where he played through a lot of his favourite records, I remember there being something by The Doopees in there (which is a project of Yann Tomita, ex Ippu-Do). I can hear it I guess, although this post-dates the earlier Stereolab releases so who knows who's influencing who.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT5BlCZsiCQ

GG Allin: The Musical (Matt #2), Monday, 10 December 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

I'm getting a French Disko vibe from this 70s Aussie prog plodder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEmsy0UgqoA

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 4 March 2019 09:14 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

Don't think this has been posted yet.

Koloman Moser - Woman's Head with Roses (1899). The artwork features on the picture sleeve of Rose, My Rocket-Brain! by Stereolab (2004). pic.twitter.com/PkE9l1qI0S

— Graeme McNay (@GraemeRMcNay) September 7, 2019

Jeff W, Saturday, 7 September 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link

!!!! good catch, I own that as a 3" CD sold on tour

sleeve, Saturday, 7 September 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

not a direct reference but this Eurythmics album In The Garden has some moments that sound a lot like early Stereolab to me. same kinda droney vocals and farfisa thing going on... check out “your time will come” and “all the young people (of today)”. idk has this been noted before? I’m just hearing this album.

“your time will come”: https://youtu.be/VcZjwxnscp8

“all the young people”: https://youtu.be/2xh0R5WRIwU

brimstead, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link

well, the farfisa is in “all the young people” anyway

brimstead, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link

Is Sing-Sing the one that sounds like one of the Mouse On Mars collaborations?

I've long maintained that Caveman Head sounds like Th' Faith Healers.

Stanley Halfbrick (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

Agree about the first Eurythmics album. 'She's Invisible Now' sounded the most like Stereolab to me.

Publicradio (3×5), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 02:26 (three years ago) link

I’m just hearing this album.

u lucky guy, it's great, total Can action

sleeve, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

"The Long Hair of Death":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3HkESAaMDE
(Just noticed this today since it's now on Amazon Prime: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07JX589FB/ref=atv_dp_b07_det_c_UTPsmN_1_18)

ernestp, Friday, 1 January 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

I bet that "Allures" borrows its name from the Jordan Belson short film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HVo23jC7cs

ernestp, Sunday, 8 August 2021 05:46 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Updated link for *Allures*

ernestp, Saturday, 11 March 2023 20:48 (one year ago) link


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