woah, xp!! I swear I wrote my entire post before seeing Roy's!!
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 01:44 (eighteen years ago) link
TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2005:>> 1. Marty Stuart and His Fabulous Superlatives, Souls' Chapel> 2. Gary Allan, Tough All Over> 3. Deana Carter, The Story of My Life> 4. The Del McCoury Band, The Company We Keep> 5. Ezequiel Peña, Nuestra Tradición: La Charreria> 6. Jon Nicholson, A Little Sump'm Sump'm> 7. Marty Stuart, Badlands> 8. Freddy Fender & Flaco Jimenez, Dos Amigos> 9. Dallas Wayne, I'm Your Biggest Fan> 10. Jessi Alexander, Honesuckle Sweet>> TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2005:>> 1. Gary Allan, "Best I've Ever Had"> 2. Jo Dee Messina, "My Give a Damn's Busted"> 3. Dierks Bentley, "Lot of Leavin' to Do"> 4. Intocable, "Aire"> 5. Lee Ann Womack, "I May Hate Myself in the Morning"> 6. Del McCoury Band, "She Can't Burn Me Now"> 7. Grupo Montez de Durango, "Quiero Saber de Ti"> 8. Robbie Fulks, "Georgia Hard"> 9. Bon Jovi, "Have a Nice Day"> 10. Carrie Underwood, "Some Hearts"
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 05:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link
i think he and brucewere more "influential" thanthe eagles (or kiss)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
plus xhuxk if he didyou would be 'i hate his voice,it is SO LEADEN'
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link
xp!
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link
Another bet on Womack to win the country poll; voters just visiting country from a rock place and some pure ND sorts (whatever THAT sort would be) vote out of proportion to those who actually follow country closely, in all polls. When somehting scores on both sides of that fence, as Lee Ann's CD does--put your money there. Gary Allan will do well for similar reasons. (I happen to find both albums very deserving, so no arguments here.)
As for the basis of the riff on Lambert's "Kerosene"; you don't have to look further back than Steve Earle's "I Feel Alright "...But she uses it well!
― Barry Mazor (B Mazor), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link
2 1 DIERKS BENTLEY Come A Little Closer 97 93 4 0.8681 1 2 JACK INGRAM Wherever You Are 96 98 -2 0.8678 3 3 CARRIE UNDERWOOD Jesus, Take The Wheel 96 91 5 0.8639 4 4 BILLY CURRINGTON Must Be Doin' Somethin' Right 50 49 1 0.4497 5 5 TOBY KEITH Get Drunk And Be Somebody 48 48 0 0.4289 7 6 RASCAL FLATTS What Hurts The Most 47 42 5 0.4283 6 7 GEORGE STRAIT She Let Herself Go 47 45 2 0.4292 15 8 BON JOVI Who Says You Can't Go Home 33 28 5 0.2968 8 9 LITTLE BIG TOWN Boondocks 32 34 -2 0.2741 9 10 TRENT TOMLINSON Drunker Than Me
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
That would be me, but I'm actually fairly tepid about the Womack. (And I'm also coming from a disco place, since disco rocks harder than rock; also from a hip-hop place, 'cause hip-hop rocks harder than rock; and a teenpop place, which rocks harder than rock. I guess country rocks harder than rock, too.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes, I'm definitely coming from a rock place (though as a wee-un I was coming from a folk place; that's 'cause in 1963, folk rocked harder than rock).
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link
Such statements always frighten me, as I foresee this follow-up: "OK. Got the Bare. Will never use you as a basis for album purchases in the future."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link
You used to love her, but it's all over now?
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link
Xgau told me he thought Lee Ann's album was bland; he'd been a fan of "Dance," I think, however. Has he ever liked her otherwise? I think he's also felt both Lee Ann and Deana Carter are overrated, in general. I don't want to put words in his mouth, though.
Am I the only person, by the way, who has trouble thinking of Lee Ann's album as a "roots" move, or whatever people call it? It sounds so pop; I'm not sure she's had a catchier album. Though yeah, obviously, there are throwback string sounds in the production etc. It doesn't *feel* like a throwback album to me, either way. More importantly, though, critics were sent the vinyl version -- So it definitely *looks* like a throwback album to them, if nothing else.
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Oh wait, here goes:
http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=lee+ann+womack
http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=deana+carter
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link
and yeah, Frank, I thought your Bare/Watson piece was dead-on, at least you seem to be in agreement with me re Bare's voice and the general winding-down aspect of "Moon Was." anyway, I give Mark Nevers a lot of credit for that record--he also worked on Silver Jews' "Tanglewood Numbers," altho apparently he and Berman had a disagreement and Berman took the project away from Nevers in the final mixing stages or something. I had always really disliked Silver Jews but damned if I don't like the new one, even voted for it this year. But as with Bare, not so much the songs--altho Bare's Shel Silverstein take is fine, probably the best thing on the record--as the overall sound of it, is what I like about Berman's record. which isn't something I wanna listen to all the time, too painful somehow, but I sure admire it in spite of myself, and I feel the same way about Bare to a much lesser extent.
xps
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Clever and expensive move. I didn't get the vinyl. Can I have yours?
My favorite thing on the Bare is "Everybody's Talkin"--it's not as good as the original, but not much is. Something in the thick vocal dissipation merges so well with the lyrics and melody. When he hits the chorus, the cumulative effect is impossible, unreal.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Hell no, it is beeyootiful!
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― wernert, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link
It's r&b, a lot of it. (But yeah, sure, an old r&b, maybe.) (See also the 100 times I've compared the big hit to "Little Green Apples.") (Which anyway wasn't the kind of country that most neo-trad types embraced, was it? Since when is '70s pop-country considered trad?)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link
I am probably overstating her soul influence, but what the hell. (More likely, she's inspired by '70s c&w that was aware of r&b then.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― wernert, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Mike Ireland is a pretty trad-oriented singer/songwriter who really embraces, even obsesses over, elements of '60s-'70s country-pop, and basically approaches them as synecdoches of country tradition, especially the Sherrillian strings.
I think when you nail countrypolitan the way Lee Ann does on the new record, it's a trad move, just not a typical one.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:10 (eighteen years ago) link
and gosh, soul influences all over the place in '70s and '80s country. even more recent songs like George Jones' "I'll Give You Something to Drink About" show it (I just saw this great clip from some kind of George Jones show that aired in the '90s with him doing this song) like they internalized the bass and drums from Hi Records and added some south-of-border flavor to it all. for that matter, Charlie Rich's Hi/Willie Mitchell sessions are pretty amazing, Hank Williams tunes.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm wondering about Lee Roy Parnell, too, now that I've heard his new one (never heard him before; did he have country hits at one point?)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link
Sounds like a hell of a lot of work to get through...(What do they think they are, a hip-hop group or something?) (I hate great values!)
Kirchen's "Hammer of The Honky Tonk Gods" title cut kicks (or at least "signifies kicking") in a Junior Brown kind of way, I guess. There's something sorta deluded about it -- half of Nashville rocks harder; hell, Kellie Pickler might rock harder -- but it's not bad.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 19 November 2006 06:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 19 November 2006 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link
kirchen's record has the same faults as his show i saw this fall. he's real good for about two songs. his supposedly awesome guided tour of pop where he interpolates all the licks he knows is actually pretty great, but seemed empty even with a couple beers in me. you kind of wish he'd go johnny guitar watson and write more songs about more interesting and perhaps raffish reality. the songs blur in my mind. the curse of reverence and "americana" and all that, but he's been at it for a while just like nick lowe, who used to write about more interesting and raffish reality but now is a very good genre artist. we all love arthur alexander, man. (i love nick lowe, but the last record of his i found remotely interesting was "party of one," which is what, 1990?)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link
(Hey Frank brought the album up! I guess I should put all this on the world music thread too. I'm not sure what it has to do with country, though yeah, there's a twang in the music now and then, and didn't one of you guys vote for Gogol Bordello in a Nashville Scene poll once? This CD belongs on a shelf near them, Kultur Shock, Balkan Beatbox, etc, unless like me you file in alphabetical order.)
And my new maybe-favorite on Kirchen's CD is "Skid Row in My Mind."
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link
ha ha, for me it was labour of lust in 1979! (though i guess i gave nick the knife or whatever a fairly mixed review for my college paper in missouri when it came out, a few years later.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link
ghostfinger, a nashville (actually murfreesboro, tn.) band, does really cool country-rock pastiches. the singer sounds like jagger or arthur lee or some white guy trying to be soulful, and it's mostly funny. they get doleful and sometimes the rockers don't quite work, but "moon" alternates sections of fake-rock and country-rock quite effectively. can't make out what it is they're exactly trying to express, but get the feeling they're a bit more than the usual history lesson. it's been a good year for nashville pop bands--lone official, the features, ghostfinger and i guess lambchop, too, have all released good records. certainly, lone official's "tuckassee take" made my no depression top 20 new releases.
and i have to say that i've listened to neko case's record (which also made my ND list) as much as i have anything this year; the songs are better than i initially thought, and she sustains a *mood* throughout that sorta skirts desolation--the line about driving past the beautiful flooded fields resonates as they say with my experience. and it's one of the great records in 6/8, a time signature she manipulates savvily and which suggests, i guess, the timelessness (or the immersion in memory) she's going after.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link
So this Dixie Chick flick, Shut Up and Sing, is playing in town. Should I go? That whole brouhaha seems like decades ago.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 23 November 2006 02:50 (seventeen years ago) link
did the ND Ballots go out already?
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link
Do we know yet if the Scene poll is dead? Is Himes gonna do it elsewhere? I mean, he's got the rolls...
And I know this has been chattered about elsewhere, but I never got a clear answer: what's to become of Pazz n Jop?
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link
New George Strait album Twang. The First single "Living For The Night" is so classic. Any thoughts?
― Jacob Sanders, Friday, 14 August 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link