As for what's in store... Well, Westword, the New Times paper in Denver, has no book review section. And yes, Rob, I know that not all New Times papers are the same. Still, what does that tell you about these guys' priorities? Or, if you're interested, got to www.westword.com and type "TABOR" into the search engine, or "C and D" (what next week's ballot is going to be all about in Colorado), and follow the links, and see if you learn anything about it. Pitiful.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 04:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― maura (maura), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 04:51 (eighteen years ago) link
Xpost Xpost Xpost
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 04:59 (eighteen years ago) link
This is inelegant code for unfastening everyone who had an opinion in hard copy versus someone who will give you their opinion for free or pennies on the Internet. What's the difference, actually? Well, one's a rationalization and an excuse, the other's the justification for the rationalization and the excuse. It's just like every other newspaper manically seized by obsession and fear of/with content from the Internet. Most newspapers are going through or will go through this in 2005 or next year. Even though profitable, cuts are expected at the biggest because it's the way corporate does things.
And before the regrets and bad news there is always the parade of rationalizations about the Internet and nature of editorial content and its origin and how the changing world has dictated something bad but we're still dedicated to and will do great journalism because great journalism is great.
Of course, you follow this to its logical conclusion, you don't even need local editors over the next few years. You can ship raw copy instantaneously to Indonesia or any old ex-Brit empire country now a slave labor nation with high bandwidth telecomm connections to the net and get the product back to you before you get up in the morning. Hey, "The Internet had made it completely unnecessary to have workers at alternate newspapers fulfilling this role."
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 05:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 05:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 05:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 05:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chris O., Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link
We all have different opinions on who are the better or worse editors of these papers. (This isn't even relating to music editors, necessarily. This can be arts editors, food editors, film editors, political editors, CHIEF editors, etc.) Every paper has a combination of good and bad editors... some are overall better than others.
What this New Times buyout will do is essentially equalize the good and bad qualities of these papers. The shitty editors will have to shape up, and the good editors will be likely (and this depends on which delegate at the Denver/Phoenix Borg Central is assigned to whom) be told how to do things, when they don't need to be told how to do things.
All in all, this is sad, because while a lot of really bad sections might improve, a lot of great sections are likely going to be compromised, and I don't think anything will arise from this that will equal the greatness of the latter. These singular visions that were enjoyable sections are going to be less singular, and this is the sad part. But hey, cut-to-the-chase corporate visions aren't really interested in preserving uniquely great quality in certain spots.. they're interested in across-the-board profitability, even if it means the referendums are going to blemish the good spots, as well as improve the bad spots.
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Yup. Though the smart editors will listen to what they are being told ... a lesson from wise-old deposed Uncle Chris.
― Chris O., Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chris O., Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― save the robot (save the robot), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link
haha thanks for making my blood run cold!
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
a little "I've moved on" humor there ...
― Chris O., Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link
One possible welcome effect: better movie reviews from more reviewers.
I see how it's welcome, but I don't see how it's possible.
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link
I see your point. Definitely not intended to make it sound end-all be-all. My situation is my situation. I found it tough to work for them.
― Chris O., Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link
... not gonna say anything else.
― Chris O., Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chris O., Tuesday, 25 October 2005 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2005/11/doj_approves_vi.asphttp://blogs.citypages.com/pscholtes/2005/10/new_times_takes.asp
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link
http://villagevoice.com/news/0549,murphy,70679,2.html
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link
oh, yeah, like the guy resigned, wow.
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 03:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 03:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Someone (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffree, Friday, 10 March 2006 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link
(I'm not gonna post here again; just thought people might be curious.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 10 March 2006 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― cracking sherry, this (nabisco), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, I can't see this being a good thing given what's happened with L.A. Weekly. More likely, they've re-animated the Voice's corpse to do horrendous things against its will.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link
There is approximately 0 chance that the latter is not the case, with a 0 margin of error.
― huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 23:00 (three years ago) link
People lose their memories every 3 years, and you have to remind them that everything Brian Calle touches turns to turds and that his "gee golly who me" attitude belies a guy WHO LEARNED HOW TO LAUNDER RIGHT-WING TALKING POINTS INTO THE MAINSTREAM WITH JAMES O'KEEFE. https://t.co/8ms8olJnEn— April Wolfe (@AWolfeful) December 23, 2020
It makes me feel insane that people somehow forget Brian Calle was VP at the Claremont Institute & then was magically placed in the role of opinion editor for SoCal News Group. That's not an accident. He wasn't a journalist. This guy was trained for laundering and grifting.— April Wolfe (@AWolfeful) December 23, 2020
― huge rant (sic), Thursday, 24 December 2020 05:00 (three years ago) link
ugh
― curmudgeon, Friday, 25 December 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzNe254VkAIIy71.jpg
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 18 April 2021 00:32 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKdHy18rZcI
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 April 2021 00:40 (three years ago) link
And just realized after all these years that this song has kind of the “I Want Candy” variant of the Bo Diddley Beat.
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 April 2021 00:41 (three years ago) link
Forgot the #onethread
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 April 2021 01:15 (three years ago) link
let's twist again
why do my hips hurt
Took a gander at the twitter account of the guy Brian Calle just hired as the new CEO of Village Voice. He's a Hamptons Trump bro obsessed with the Hunter Biden laptop conspiracy theory. Surprised he didn't go private before the announcement. pic.twitter.com/VNqjEryGKB— April Wolfe (@AWolfeful) July 1, 2021
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 2 July 2021 06:42 (two years ago) link
For fuck's sake, someone please put the Voice out of its misery. It deserves a dignified death, not this.
― birdistheword, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link
Same thought: just sad.
― clemenza, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link
Think you'll find selling it to Calle eradicated any possibility of dignity.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 2 July 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link
So they've got a Fall 2021 Print Edition online, and latest (?) music coverage:https://www.villagevoice.com/category/music-2021/
― dow, Monday, 20 September 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link
I Don’t trust new owner based on what I have read, so kind of ignoring new Voice
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link