― jess, Friday, 30 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Nick, Friday, 30 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Michael Jones, Friday, 30 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
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― fields of salmon, Friday, 30 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
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― Sean Carruthers, Saturday, 1 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
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― alex in mainhattan, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I love the Pixies dearly (and the doc made me want to dig out Come on Pilgrim again). But here's the thing: when I first heard Surfer Rosa, in a small, cold student flat in Norwich 1989, I thought it was abysmal, shouty, formless and stupid. One year later, driving around downtown Portland, Oregon it all made fantastic sense. Which makes me wonder: how does location and geographic cultural space affect the way you hear music? As an English box bedroom boy I grew up favouring the intimate confessional indie (Smiths) and domestic disco (Pet Shop Boys) one would expect, and I'm not sure the Pixies could ever make sense to me in that context. However, blasting out of a car stereo on an open Oregon highway there was suddenly *room* for the music. Maybe only a certain type of uptight, claustrophobic Englishman needs to actually go to the US to understand rock, but it puts me in mind of something Gertrude Stein said - what makes America what it is "is that there is more space where nobody is than where anybody is". And I think I heard something like that in the sound of Surfer Rosa.
― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
The only Pixies album I ever had was Doolittle. Now I want it back again!
― youn, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
What is "guitar tone", and should I know about it?
― the pinefox, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
And Frank Black's 1st album has just as much to offer as _Teenager of the Year_. I have no idea how his other stuff is (though the word is to beware of later albums, regardless of his semi-newfound fondness for the 2-track demo get-it-on-the-first-take ethos).
― David Raposa, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Robert KJ Porter, Sunday, 5 January 2003 22:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 5 January 2003 23:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
Plus, great lyrics.
― David Allen, Monday, 6 January 2003 00:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
Vamos (Come on Pilgrim vers.)Isla de EncantaBone MachineBreak My BodySomething Against YouGigantic (album vers.)River Euphrates (album vers.)Where is My Mind?DebaserWave of Mutilation (album vers.)Here Comes Your ManMonkey Gone to HeavenLa La Love YouHeyWinterlongCecilia AnnVelouriaAllisonAnaDig for FireThe HappeningHavalinaEvil Hearted YouTrompe Le MondeAlec EiffelPalace of the BrineLetter to MemphisMotorway to RoswellThe Navajo Know
(80:36)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 21:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 6 November 2003 21:31 (twenty years ago) link
CaribouThe Holiday SongNimrod's SonBone MachineSomething Against YouBroken FaceGiganticRiver EuphratesWhere is My Mind?DebaserHere Comes Your ManMonkey Gone To HeavenMr. GrievesNo. 13 BabyGouge AwayVelouriaDig for FireTrompe Le MondePlanet of SoundAlec EiffelThe Sad PunkU-MassLetter to Memphis
(It's been a while since I've heard Bossanova, so I may be forgetting some other tracks I like from that.)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 6 November 2003 21:42 (twenty years ago) link
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― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 November 2003 00:44 (twenty years ago) link
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 7 November 2003 00:59 (twenty years ago) link
1. Debaser2. Break My Body3. Gigantic4. River Euphrates5. Where Is My Mind?6. I've Been Tired7. Nimrod's Son8. Brick Is Red9. La La Love You10. Hey!11. Ana12. U-Mass13. Subbacultcha14. Monkey Gone to Heaven15. Here Comes Your Man16. Wave of Mutilation (UK surf)17. Dig for Fire18. Head-On19. Alec Eiffel20. Bird Dream of the Olympus Mons21. Vamos (Surefer Rosa version)22. Gouge Away23. Velouria24. Is She Weird?25. Planet of Sound26. The Navajo Know27. Havalina
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 7 November 2003 01:50 (twenty years ago) link
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― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 March 2004 05:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Aaron A., Friday, 19 March 2004 05:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 19 March 2004 05:40 (twenty years ago) link
Kim of course has nothing to prove to anyone, but even "Gigantic," that was a co-write based on I think Charles's repetitive bass riff and maybe he had the chorus too, at least the repeating title. She really didn't have much creative input in the Pixies, which no doubt led to some friction, but if the book is much indication I think it was more her unpredictable behavior and unreliability that ticked him off. Like, skipping sound checks, being late to places, vanishing on tour, that sort of thing.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:08 (two weeks ago) link
That said, I can't imagine the band without her, she rules and is of course a key component of what makes that band so great.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:10 (two weeks ago) link
Who is dismissing her? Most people thinks she has the most vital longevity of all the band members but she was kind of sidelined from Doolittle onwards.
I finally listened to Frank Black's Oddballs, it's fun and worthwhile but not really up there with the best of his early albums.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:12 (two weeks ago) link
I was quite shocked when I found out how she doesn't actually have have any of her own songs on Doolittle, not even as much singing as I recalled, but what is there is memorable
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:36 (two weeks ago) link
Some listings say that's a co-written song. Is there any handy listing of all the Pixies songwriting credits? Did Joey write "Levitate Me"?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 10 March 2024 03:27 (two weeks ago) link
"silver" and "gigantic" are credited to deal/black (though deal is responsible for most of "silver" at the very least), "levitate me" is black/lovering/jean walsh (black's then-girlfriend i think), lenchantin co-wrote a few tracks on head carrier and beneath the eyrie and santiago co-wrote a few on doggerel
― ufo, Sunday, 10 March 2024 03:43 (two weeks ago) link
"Into The White" is all hers?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 10 March 2024 03:56 (two weeks ago) link
black is the sole writer on that despite deal singing lead
"bam thwok" is the only pixies track that's credited only to deal afaik
― ufo, Sunday, 10 March 2024 04:51 (two weeks ago) link
I love "Bam Thwok", strange that she'd get a sole credit so late on. Seems like only months later that she left
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 10 March 2024 05:02 (two weeks ago) link
Worth mentioning the recent unearthing of "Go Man Go" that was stapled onto the Last Splash reissue which gives a co-credit to Black Francis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcYCyzvNY1M
(sounds like a stepsibling of "Where Is My Mind?"/"Caribou"/"Velouria")
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 10 March 2024 05:16 (two weeks ago) link
and here is the "Silver" demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH_g46UfHVQ
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 10 March 2024 05:26 (two weeks ago) link
"bam thwok" was the first and only reunion song the original lineup made back in 2004, and i guess deal/black relations were pretty decent at the time since he let her write it
― ufo, Sunday, 10 March 2024 06:44 (two weeks ago) link
they also did Ain’t That Pretty At All for a Zevon tribKim had Bam Thwok sitting around intended as a Breeders song and Charles suggested recording one of hers as an olive branch for excluding her writing the previous time around
― bae (sic), Sunday, 10 March 2024 09:25 (two weeks ago) link
Thwok shows that a whole album of Deal songs backed by the Pixies blokes could have been great, but Bam / Ain’t is a great imaginary A-side / B-side commemoration of their whole reunion. She was right to quit rather than risk blowing their legacy; whatever the name has done since, it’s fine to think of as a different band.
― bae (sic), Sunday, 10 March 2024 09:29 (two weeks ago) link