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"Brian Jones' death poetry"

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Amazingly enough, Lex, sometimes when one likes a piece of music, one might like listening to it again from time to time, and when you listen to it, sometimes you think about the people who made it.

(x-post oh that "little britain". I haven't got a telly, so I haven't seen it. I thought there was a band called little britain, or something)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

sometimes when one likes a piece of music, one might like listening to it again from time to time

i think this is the crux of my not understanding re mansun! i can just about imagine liking them at the time, but 10 years on we are all older and wiser surely.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I would far more associate the unambitious, cosy, stock, Andrex-soft witterings of LB with the current new-wave revivalists, or possibly the Coldplay set. They're all proponents of a cultural stagnancy which Mansun were plainly the deadliest of enemies with (until Little Kix, when their label forced them to submit).

There's never been a better time to talk about Mansun, with Paolo Nutini dragging British music to a new low...

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:09 (seventeen years ago) link

mansun were boys who played guitars = cultural stagnancy at its most stagnant

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:14 (seventeen years ago) link

you could win any argument with that sort of crass generalisation

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:18 (seventeen years ago) link

and he often does!

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Lex = ILX debate club captain.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Lex = ARGH.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

As a result of this thread, I listened to "Grey Lantern" again. Quite a lot of it still stands up very well.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Besides, with bands like Oceansize, Aereogramme etc coming into prominence on these shores, surely the shadow of Mansun is as demarcated as it ever was?

(Said with straight face. Oceansize rock)

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Who?

Louis, I emailed you. Reply.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Have done so...

Oceansize are a band who combine metal, post-rock and electronica, with a 3-guitar attack and effects pedals to die for. They are worth checking out. Honestly.

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 28 July 2006 12:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I sort of like and admire how the Lex is almost guaranteed to appear on thread about stuff he hates just to tell us all how much he hates it.

with Paolo Nutini dragging British music to a new low...

Paolo Nutini's parents own a very good chip shop where I have been often known to buy my lunch when I am on my break from work and don't give a toss about grease and spots and my weight. I realise this doesn't excuse his music (but it's better than James Blunt, if damning with faint praise is any consolation to him), but I can't bring himself to hate him entirely.

Mansun, on the other hand, were terrific. Classic, totally.

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 28 July 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

nine months pass...

i knew this would be a L***s J****r thread revive

Just got offed, Thursday, 24 May 2007 13:56 (sixteen years ago) link

No shit.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 24 May 2007 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

Louis Jagger and Paul Draper are now friends. 11:45pm

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Paul Draper
is looking for the new sound like the mighty boosh!
Updated 4 hours ago

banriquit, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Good grief LJ is the second friend I have in common with Paul Draper. I'm so ashamed.

Matt DC, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link

think my ex snogged paul draper one time.

banriquit, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link

when she was, you know, 15.

banriquit, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

P4EDO DRAPER SHAME

Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Groups include:

Paul Draper Chinese Group
Bring back Mansun!!!!
Fans of Dominic Chad
Mansun appreciation society (aka lets start the worlds smallest FB group)
Come back Mansun and Draper
Paul Draper Official

Matt DC, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

poor guy

banriquit, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess he must be now; it's been a while. If he wants the royalites to start flowing again he should lobby for some Mansun tracks to be included on the soundtrack to upcoming BBC1 time travel cop series Jump They Say.

Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

ROYALTIES morelike

Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Royal-ites

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

No, that was the Brotherhood of Man.

Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

If you sing "Being a Girl" in a stupid voice, it does become a bog standard Franz track.
-- Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 30 June 2006 10:56 (1 year ago) Link

^^^REAL TALK

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link

the only mansun fan i've ever met is a terrible, terrible cunt

DG, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link

the only mansun fan i've ever met is an internet legend

banriquit, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Yr ex-girlfriend is an internet legend?

Matt DC, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

naw, i don't think she was a big fan rly.

im talking about louis.

banriquit, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link

five years pass...

So anyway. Plus bonus Kula Shaker trashing.

http://www.vanyaland.com/2013/11/15/paul-draper-britpop-band-mansun-california-rapper-mansun-face-twitter-dazzling-results/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 November 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

I thought paolo nutini had one okay song

OutdoorFish, Friday, 15 November 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link

good-natured beefs that result in potential collaboration are the future, i've seen it

imago, Friday, 15 November 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

boggling at the fact that Draper has a blue tick on his twitter account.

a band called 'Affairs'. They play instruments (soref), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

i just can't get through the solo album. so much clattery, so much singy, too much something. I love the work he did on the Anchoress album but I'm not enjoying the work she did on this.

akm, Friday, 11 August 2017 10:45 (six years ago) link

Just listening to this for the first time. Don't Poke The Bear is one of the worst openers I've heard in a long time. I know his voice was always an acquired taste but that is such a horrible vocal.

kitchen person, Sunday, 13 August 2017 14:23 (six years ago) link

I'm listening to the album for the first time right now, still on "Don't Poke the Bear", and yeah, I was pretty into it until the vocal came in. Definitely a Bold Choice.

michaellambert, Sunday, 13 August 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link

this is better than i expected

imago, Friday, 18 August 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

pvmic

licking the yellow Toad next to the teleporter (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 August 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

i expected it to be bad tbf

imago, Friday, 18 August 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link

pvmnic

licking the yellow Toad next to the teleporter (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 August 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link

He could have followed Six with this album. Nothing quite as good as I Can Only Disappoint U, though

PaulTMA, Saturday, 19 August 2017 10:26 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

I'm going to listen to ATTACK OF THE GREY LANTERN tonight.

the pinefox, Monday, 3 August 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

is he not #cancelled now

boxedjoy, Monday, 3 August 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

nah he was a pathetic ass but idk if 'drunkenly propositioning your tourmate on fbook chat' is full-cancel territory. like, obv v shitty but yellow card and 'do better' imo

imago, Monday, 3 August 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

Paul Draper: ex-Mansun frontman denies stalking musician Catherine Anne Davies https://t.co/tzHjmCYadO

— Guardian culture (@guardianculture) December 12, 2022

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 12 December 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

a pattern has emerged :(

no excuse at all but he is fucked in the head and needs help as well as censure/punishment

imago, Monday, 12 December 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

honestly fuck him anyway tho, not gonna let this ruin Six but fuck relistening to his recent solo stuff (which was awful recriminatory bollocks anyway)

imago, Monday, 12 December 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

CAD and I are FB friends and she's posted obliquely about this over the years on her personal account, but didn't know the extent of it, and I have no reason to think she is anything other than utterly sincere and he is an absolute cunt

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 12 December 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

well as i say (as my post before the jump demonstrates), this is not a first offence!

imago, Monday, 12 December 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

he did not 'do better'

imago, Monday, 12 December 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

Somehow he and his lawyers blocked the story Laura Snapes had been working on for a while where she had talked to some of his victims. I'm glad he's finally getting called out in public. He's an awful human being and I doubt I'll listen to Mansun again.

kitchen person, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

There's more? Ugh

imago, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link

As I say though, I tend to forgive the art more than the artist, especially if the art long pre-dates the awful behaviour. You will prise Six from my cold dead hands etc, but Draper now? The wolves can have him

imago, Monday, 12 December 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

He seems to have gone massively downhill in recent years. I liked his first solo album, but fuck knows what has happened to him

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 11:37 (one year ago) link

i believe CAD wrote a lot of that first solo album so maybe that's part of the issue.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

That 'Things People Want' song sounded like a lost single from Mansun at their best.
Strange to think just a few years down the line, everything is now in the bin, completely

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link


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