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Been slowly going through my archive of stuff and #1 on the list is this... Dream Syndicate, July 1982 at the Tower Records in El Toro, CA (where I spent a LOT of money over the years). All five songs are on my YouTube stream but if you're going to watch one make it this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG03K1Iuazw
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 4 March 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, The Medicine Show is finally getting reissued
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 4 March 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link
ha, finally! i interviewed Steve in 2001 or 2002 and asked him when that record would be reissued. he said "i'm working on it!"
― tylerw, Thursday, 4 March 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link
awesome video! did you take it?
― tylerw, Thursday, 4 March 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Great news. That's a really underappreciated album - John Coltrane Stereo Blues is killer. People always say it should have been better, but we'll have to settle for really very good.
― ithappens, Thursday, 4 March 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't take it, but I was certainly there.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 4 March 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
would've loved to see the original Dream Syndicate. The live stuff I've got by them is sweet -- super loose, but always fun.
― tylerw, Thursday, 4 March 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link
That slicingupeyeballs link doesn't work. I'm withholding sweaty fanboy hugs until the reissue is verified.
I have vivid memories of playing cuts from their first two albums during my first-ever college radio show. They worked perfectly in my nite-owl 2-4 a.m. slot, the studio lit with a blacklight.
Those looking for more, I didn't see Eleventh Dream Day's Prairie School Freakout (1988) mentioned. Dream Syndicate is just one of many elements (Gun Club, X, Neil Young), but it's there.
Okay, here it is -
The concerts, on May 14 and 15, will feature Wynn and his current band — Jason Victor, Dave DeCastro and Linda Pitmon — performing Medicine Show front-to-back on the first night and 1982’s The Days of Wine and Roses on the second, with “both sets fortified with many extra songs both old and brand new.”
*hugz*
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link
It would be tempting to roadtrip to Atlanta for that except I'm planning to go see Torche in Chicago.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link
wynn's band these days is killer -- his solo stuff is hit and miss, but he always delivers live.
― tylerw, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link
hey guys i just put together this live companion to days of wine & roses if anyone is interested. it is pretty pretty good. http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/26425201595/the-dream-syndicate-the-days-of-wine-and-roses
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
oh tyler, once again filling our needs before we realize it!
― nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
did you ever see 'em back then? listening this week, seems like they were almost *too* loose. a couple of the shows are just total messes.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
I did, and yup they were a mess sometimes -- but Karl's noise guitar was usually not as much of a hindrance for me as Steve's singing.
― Mafia-owned bar for transvestites (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
ha yeah, he sometimes sounds like he's just hollering over the din. but i think i got some of the better performances. they could kick a lot of ass, too!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
Sometimes Duck's drumming was just a monotonous, super-simple snare hit, too, seemingly the anchor in the maelstrom. But yeah, I'm a fan! The intro to "John Coltrane" gives me chills the same way "Marquee Moon" does. When they were great (more in studio than live for me) they were really great.
― Mafia-owned bar for transvestites (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
xp yep, i agree! the version of 'That's What You Always Say' on there is fantastic. Dennis Duck = elegant linchpin as always. and i love Kendra. One time when Pell Mell played at the Anti-Club in LA Kendra came in and sat right down in front. sadly, she then got up and walked out about 1/4 of the way through our set. humiliating!
― nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
ha! oh well. seeing kendra in public at all is probably akin to seeing a rare species of bird or something.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
There's a lot of their live stuff up at Archive.org. I love that early stuff from 82-3.the lp Day Before wine & Roses is also very worth checking out. Recorded I think about 3 weeks before the studio lp for a local radio station.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
Oh & the lp by Kendra Smith is pretty nice, not sure if its remotely available though.Her on an Indian pump organ thing like Nico used to play.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i got all of those live performances from archive.org -- gotta be a pretty complete collection of dream syndicate tapes. kendra definitely needs some kind of box set thing. does anyone have her phone #.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
haha, given her last address was a cabin with no electricity...
― Mafia-owned bar for transvestites (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
pony express stop then
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
Hurm. Heard a rumor that Wynn was planning on touring DAYS OF WINE AND ROSES again. Don't know if even Dunn was joining him this time around or not.
I should slot that recent live set that Tyler posted. One can never have too much early DS.
Also potentially of interest: http://highway62.tumblr.com/post/26083888051/last-days-of-may-eponymous-debut-album-released
Which is Karl Precoda interviewed by yrs truly in 1997 after the release of the first Last Days of May record on No-Fi records, a heavily truncated version of which was printed in PTOLEMAIC TERRASCOPE. So heavily truncated, in fact, as to bear little resemblance to the original behemoth.
Last I heard, Kendra Smith was off the grid in northern California. That was not long before she performed at Terrastock 2 in 1997 or 1998. If someone tracks her down, I'll drive out to talk to her about issuing an omnibus. The GUILD OF TEMPORAL ADVENTURERS disc is pretty essential, much more so than FIVE WAYS OF DISAPPEARING (the 4AD LP).
Guy Khyser still lives in Davis and last I'd heard, he was performing in a bluegrass band (with Roger Kunkel, also of TWR) after folding the Mummy Dogs. Not sure if that's still happening or not.
― Matt M., Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
The upcoming _DoW&R_ tour (tourlet?) is Wynn, Jason Victor, Mark Walton, and Dennis Duck.
Will check out Tyler's set also, thanks for posting.
― Jeff Wright, Thursday, 5 July 2012 04:08 (eleven years ago) link
Duck for Dunn. Hilarious.
And hello, Jeff. Long time no see.
― Matt M., Thursday, 5 July 2012 07:19 (eleven years ago) link
European tour announced (plus that 1 US date) with this lineup:
The band’s current lineup features singer/guitarist Wynn and drummer Dennis Duck, the two members who spanned the group’s entire seven-year career as well as bassist Mark Walton, who was in the band for its final two records and nearly all of their US and world tours. Guitarist Jason Victor who has played with Wynn in the Miracle 3 since 2001 will round out the 21st Century lineup.
THE DREAM SYNDICATE - TOUR SCHEDULE: MAY 23 HET DEPOT / LEUVEN, BELGIUMMAY 24 DINGWALL’S / LONDON, ENGLANDMAY 25 ROCKEFELLER’S / OSLO, NORWAYMAY 26 STADTGARDEN / COLOGNE, GERMANYMAY 28 BEACHES BREW FEST / RAVENNA, ITALYMAY 29 BLOOM / MEZZAGO (MILAN), ITALYMAY 30 MYLOS / THESSALONIKI, GREECEMAY 31 STAGE / LARISSA, GREECEJUNE 1 GAGARIN / ATHENS, GREECEJUNE 22 SOLID SOUND FESTIVAL / NORTH ADAMS, MA
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
Oops, that's the same lineup as Jeff W posted last July 2012
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
Been interviewing people from all the main PU groups for a piece pegged to this. During the course of which I discovered that my daughter and Sid Griffin's daughter are science partners at school.
― Trans-Europe Stopping Train (ithappens), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
amazing! sid has always seemed like a grand fellow when i've seen him play
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
i'd go see this if it was anywhere near me. even though jason victor wasn't in the band, he's been a pretty awesome guitarist when I've seen him with wynn.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
I am seriously contemplating going to this. Feel a bit sad sometimes that I go to so many damn reunion gigs though.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:56 (eleven years ago) link
I've heard such great things about Wynn live lately that I wonder why they even bothered calling this a Dream Syndicate reunion.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
tbf they are playing the first album in full
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
All the more reason, if they don't have the line-up from the first album. I mean, 3/4 of the VU is still alive, but if Cale and Reed did it without Mo, it wouldn't be the VU. Or if Mo and Reed did it without Cale, etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, it's probably just that "Steve Wynn Plays The Music of Dream Syndicate (featuring members of Dream Syndicate)" wasn't setting promoters on fire.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
More like, Steve Wynn owns the name "Dream Syndicate" and can do what he wants, and Kendra et al. don't care.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
i'm sure kendra is writing a strongly worded letter to the media on papyrus leaves as we speak.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
no. no. no. if ever an album was mind-blowing, it's this one.
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 07:09
what she said
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
new out of the grey era collection coming out — https://usa.firerecords.com/products/the-dream-syndicate-what-can-i-say-no-regrets-out-of-the-grey-live-demos-outtakes-3xcd
a flawed album, but listening recently it sounded much better than I remember. the live show included here is pretty killer too.
― tylerw, Monday, 27 December 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link
I appreciate how the first thing you hear on the 1981 rehearsal tape is a sloppy take on the "Back in Black" riff.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 00:54 (two years ago) link
"Paranoid" too, good to know that even the coolest bands noodle away at bad renditions of songs in rehearsal too.
― Maresn3st, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 11:44 (two years ago) link
When I was in high school in the '80s there was a stretch of time when I would put the cassette of The Days of Wine and Roses in my boom box every night when I was getting in bed so I could fall asleep to it.
I just now bought the CD of that album for nostalgia reasons and listened to it again. Funnily enough, Track 1 "Tell Me When It's Over" sounds super-familiar, like I remember every note of it. But the rest of it, I feel as if I'm hearing it for the first time. I must have consistently fallen asleep during Track 1 back in high school. In fact I'm surprised how aggro the rest of the album is, starting even with Track 2. I misremembered the whole thing as sounding kind of dreamy and drowsy, but that's only one facet of it.
― Josefa, Thursday, 30 December 2021 23:27 (two years ago) link
Hahaha no, dreamy and drowsy it ain’t!
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 30 December 2021 23:55 (two years ago) link
Oh, how sad:
https://thedreamsyndicate.bandcamp.com/album/the-days-of-wine-and-roses-expanded-edition
The Dream Syndicate reveal a newly expanded 40th Anniversary Edition release History Kinda Pales When It and You Are Aligned: The Days Of Wine and Roses (4xCD Expanded Edition). Collecting 54 songs from the original line-up, including 10 hard-to-find rarities and 31 never released recordings.An exceptional early ‘80s guitar-powered gem, remastered in full and includes a wealth of unreleased material. This newly expanded 4 CD collection includes tracks from main protagonist Steve Wynn’s earlier combo 15 Minutes, the debut EP, astounding cover renditions (Johnny Cash, Janis Joplin, The Who), recordings of the band’s first ever rehearsal, along with several visceral live concerts live concerts pre-dating the recording of their album.
An exceptional early ‘80s guitar-powered gem, remastered in full and includes a wealth of unreleased material. This newly expanded 4 CD collection includes tracks from main protagonist Steve Wynn’s earlier combo 15 Minutes, the debut EP, astounding cover renditions (Johnny Cash, Janis Joplin, The Who), recordings of the band’s first ever rehearsal, along with several visceral live concerts live concerts pre-dating the recording of their album.
Tracklist:
Disc One: Original Days of Wine and Rose album + Down There EPTell Me When It's OverDefinitely CleanThat's What You Always SayThen She RemembersHalloweenWhen You SmileUntil LatelyToo Little, Too LateThe Days of Wine and RosesSure Thing (Down There EP Version)That's What You Always Say (Down There EP Version)When You Smile (Down There EP Version)Some Kinda Itch (Down There EP Version) Disc Two: Even More Hot Rocks (no hits & out of phase cookies)That's What You Always Say (15 Minutes / 7 inch Single Version)Last Chance For You (15 Minutes / 7 inch Single Version)Too Little, Too Late (Rehearsal Version, 1981)Definitely Clean (Rehearsal Version, 1981)Is It Rolling, Bob? (Rehearsal Version, 1982)A Reason (Rehearsal Version, 1982)Like Mary (Rehearsal Version, 1982)Outside the Dream Syndicate (Rehearsal Version, 1982)Last Chance For You (Rehearsal Version, 1982)Unknown song with lyrics (Rehearsal Version, 1982)Some Kinda Itch (Live at KPFK, 1982)
Disc Three: Crackling Noises Ok - Do Not CorrectUntil Lately (Live at 1313 Mockingbird Lane, CA, 1982)Sure Thing (Live at 1313 Mockingbird Lane, CA, 1982)Then She Remembers (Live at 1313 Mockingbird Lane, CA, 1982)It’s Gonna Be Alright (Live at 1313 Mockingbird Lane, CA, 1982)Halloween (Live)That’s What You Always Say (Live)Sure Thing (Live)Definitely Clean (Live)Too Little, Too Late (Kendra vocal) (Live)When You Smile (Live)Some Kinda Itch (Live)That’s What You Always Say (Rehearsal Version)Road Runner (Rehearsal Version)Instrumental (Rehearsal Version)
Disc Four: Live'r Than You'll Ever BeTell Me When It’s Over (Live at the Country Club, Reseda CA, 1982)That’s What You Always Say (Live at the Country Club, Reseda CA, 1982)Sure Thing (Live at the Country Club, Reseda CA, 1982)Then She Remembers (Live at the Country Club, Reseda CA, 1982)Halloween (Live at the Country Club, Reseda CA, 1982)Definitely Clean (Live at the Country Club, Reseda CA, 1982)When You Smile (Live at the Country Club, Reseda CA, 1982)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 March 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link
haha, how many times have they reissued this record? that said ... this looks awesome.
― tylerw, Thursday, 16 March 2023 16:08 (one year ago) link
Every 10 years or so? The Rhino was a 20th Anniversary version, and iirc the other expanded one was for the 30th (and the OG CD was in the early '90s).
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 16 March 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link
I was at the 1313 Mockingbird Lane show, it was a goth-ish jewelry and clothing store in Pasadena.
― nickn, Thursday, 16 March 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link
With a name like that I'd hope so!
I only ever had the Rhino reissue with the EP and single track on it, so I'll be fine with this being my second copy of the album (and last, I hope).
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 March 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link
LOL, but yeah this looks amazing. I already have the original Slash CD and the Omnivore CD reissue. (Amusingly I was debating whether to get rid of one of them just a few days ago when I was reorganizing the shelves.)
― birdistheword, Thursday, 16 March 2023 22:36 (one year ago) link
Actually I just learned in this thread that Wynn had an offshoot band called 15 Minutes. When I got the Rhino CD many years ago I saw "(15 Minutes)" after two of the song titles and I thought I'd be in for a couple of long rave ups. Imagine my disappointment.
― nickn, Thursday, 16 March 2023 22:45 (one year ago) link
Steve Wynn and Dennis Duck from original band and Mark Walton from a later line-up, plus Vicki Peterson from The Bangles, are/were touring UK. And Matt Piucci from The Rain Parade supported
― curmudgeon, Friday, 17 March 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZOmwpmq7mY
― tylerw, Friday, 17 March 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link