― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link
Bwahahahaha
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Candlebox's breakout hit had a hook that ripped off "In The Meantime."
― Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Sunday, 18 June 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Um, you've heard Prong, right?
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 18 June 2006 00:58 (seventeen years ago) link
it's true, that "heaven let your light shine down" turd they did
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link
that was collective soul not candlebox wasn't it?
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 18 June 2006 05:19 (seventeen years ago) link
its definitely better than Candlebox's hit at least! i can't even hardly remember what it sounds like.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 18 June 2006 09:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 09:29 (seventeen years ago) link
Ok anyways Helmet rules and Page is OTM here:"I hear so many bands that, to me, I can't distinguish between them," he said, talking about the current scene. "It's sort of like, 'Insert four guys with tattoos here.' And it's pseudo-hardcore or pseudo-punk rock or emo. It just seems like you get your 'Rock Star 101' manual and fill in the blanks. This music just doesn't interest me at this point in my life."
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 18 June 2006 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link
1. Bands who are influenced by Converge/Botch/Coalesce/Dilinger Escape Plan, but with simpler riffs and a tendency to break up the dissonance with cheesy stabs at melody. Alternating screaming and obnoxious sing-songy vocals. Sound like a cornier Deftones.
2. The more metallic-sounding bands with ripped-off In Flames/At the Gates riffage, also alternating screaming and obnoxious sing-songy vocals.
3. Bands rooted in "hardcore" but unabashedly pop-punk influenced as well. High-pitched, nasal vocals.
Of course none of these categories are exclusive or anything.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 18 June 2006 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 June 2006 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link
"Or how about Finger Eleven, whose name must be a reference to some sort of creepy extra finger that only truly creepy people have. Their song "Drag You Down" has the NIN midtempo march of the slugs thingy down pat. The lyrics sound like stuff Trent Reznor writes down in the middle of the night to help him remember his dreams better: "Teething," "It's biting," "I'm bleeding." And the video itself, much like Spineshank's and a whole lot by other nü-by bands, takes place in one of those haunted machine shops that evoke NAFTA more than they evoke some blasted postapocalyptic vision of decay. Blame it on Einstürzende Neubauten, or maybe Janet Jackson. Or Helmet, whose prescient 1992 "Unsung" video introduced warehouse space, lockstepped dude-friendly Big Black riffs, skater shorts, and Dischordian X-estential vagueness to a generation of future Finger Elevens whose previous delvings into metal consisted of their big sister's Ratt collection. Anyway, Finger Eleven's bass player, like most bass players, has one of the lamest hairdos on earth. And the guitarist is still wearing X-tremely huge pants which everyone will agree are likeso over."
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link
He was in Tomahawk (he's on their first album, anyway) and going back a bit further he played drums on an album by the Mark Of Cain, who sounded a lot like Helmet's Australian cousins anyway.
― LC (Damian), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link
He's in Battles.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link
Sorry, but you're an utter dingbat.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 June 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
If you can't tell the difference between shit like "Prove You Wrong" (the only Prong song anyone other than metal mooks ever heard or cared about) and Helmet you are deaf and musically ignorant.
Prong = Just because your singer was the doorman at CBGBs doesn't make you cool. Face it, you're a 4/4 metal band.
― Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Sunday, 18 June 2006 23:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 18 June 2006 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link
Prong released three albums prior to Prove You Wrong, all of which pre-date Helmet's debut.
You're still a dingbat and obviously have a hard time admitting when you're out of your depth.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Monday, 19 June 2006 08:50 (seventeen years ago) link
or..Downtown Juile Brown!
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 19 June 2006 09:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marty Innerlogic (marty innerlogic), Monday, 17 July 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link
They're playing a local venue here tonight. 14 years ago they played to a place about fifteen times as big not far away. I don't so much feel old as think, "They've reached their best level."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 August 2007 00:37 (sixteen years ago) link
In every old thread dug up Alex is fighting with someone in a new, very entertaining way.
― humansuit, Thursday, 23 August 2007 00:44 (sixteen years ago) link
there are times when i really need a loud, heavy riff-charged assault a la 'meantime'. aside from these times, i don't feel the urge to listen to it all that often.
i'll add that 'i know' from betty is amazing
― Charlie Howard, Thursday, 23 August 2007 02:40 (sixteen years ago) link
How many posts and not one mentioning how stunningly beautiful Page Hamilton is?!?!?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 23 August 2007 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link
i'd like to think i'm more beautiful
certainly not the reason i listen to helmet
― Charlie Howard, Thursday, 23 August 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link
It was kind of weird playing 'Born Annoying' (the song) a few mornings ago, sandwiched in between seeing John Stanier kick my head off two seperate times as Battles drummer. Dude's certainly switched up his style over time
― DJ Mencap, Thursday, 23 August 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Helmet's pretty good workout music.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 23 August 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link
'betty' really does dip after the first four tracks (which are awesome). way too many tepid, 'nice-enough' snoozers deflating the energy of the thing.
― Charlie Howard, Friday, 31 August 2007 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Love exactly two Helmet songs: Impressionable and the 1st version of Born Annoying. Ha ha part is that both come from a demo that AmRep released against the band's wishes. Oh yeah, and they did a swell cover of Killing Joke's Primitive. Other than that, don't give a shit.
― Bob Standard, Friday, 31 August 2007 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link
'clean' is as good as any of the first four tracks on betty
― 6335, Friday, 31 August 2007 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link
their best song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y332UtRod_0
― Zeno, Saturday, 6 June 2009 01:00 (fourteen years ago) link
still reppin' for 'clean' in june '09
― 6335, Saturday, 6 June 2009 05:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Still reppin' for Aftertaste which is a pretty underrated record IMHO.
Saw Helmet play last year at the Waldrock-festival (which is the second or third biggest metalfestival in The Netherlands), and they were the best band of the day.
― Marty Innerlogic, Saturday, 6 June 2009 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link
He played on a Wire song from Object 47: "All Fours." Not sure he did anything that someone else couldn't have done, but it's a pretty nice track, although to be fair it sounds like Band of Susans with a different vocalist.
― dlp9001, Saturday, 6 June 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
what am I missing about this band?
― admrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4OKQShgiDk#t=6m11s
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 18 June 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link
fwd to 6:11http://bit.ly/ajosxb
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 18 June 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link
C'mon, this is just a Foo Fighters song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkFMvststF0
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:42 (seven years ago) link
awful
― Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link
i'm not gonna listen to that. MEANTIME 4EVER.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link
i got this double band of susans Cd comp thing not long ago and i don't think i knew that there was this weird proto-helmet phase of that band. it's not great stuff and sounds really weird next to older cooler band of susans stuff. which i like a lot.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link
or maybe not even proto-helmet. i never heard the last couple of records and page isn't even on them now that i look. anyway, weird beefy grunge-era band of susans.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
love agenda and the word and the flesh are still essential though. they sound even better to me now than they did back then.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link
I've come around on Helmet since 2003, when I posted way upthread about seeing Caspar Brötzmann Massaker open for them. Now I have their first four albums in my iPod. I've still never heard the album Page and Caspar did together. I should get around to that one day.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 13 October 2016 00:34 (seven years ago) link
Scott, the last BoS album is pretty great. There's at least one essential song Pardon My French, and I pretty much love the whole thing, though the opening track is on the gothy side (which might not be a problem for many). I'm sure you can find a cheap copy...
― dlp9001, Thursday, 13 October 2016 02:00 (seven years ago) link
i don't think I ever knew Page Hamilton was in Band of Susans
― akm, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:14 (seven years ago) link
I think it is possible to mix skronky guitar with Beatle harmonies, but that new Helmet tune is not the recipe.
― earlnash, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:51 (seven years ago) link
Meantime is sounding hard as hell atm
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 May 2023 14:42 (ten months ago) link
Meantime makes me want to pump iron
― brimstead, Thursday, 18 May 2023 15:07 (ten months ago) link
I’m kind of amazed by how few people are vouching for Strap it On. I still think it’s their one truly perfect album
― beamish13, Thursday, 18 May 2023 17:54 (ten months ago) link
I listened to Strap It On the other week and it was OK but their run from Meantime through Aftertaste is the good stuff.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 18 May 2023 17:58 (ten months ago) link