Jesus Jones C/D?

That said I remember liking JJ a lot better than EMF or PWEI at the time (I even went out and bought Perverse, and liked it) (I was also fourteen)

I just wanted to point out that "nonetheless" makes no sense in this paragraph. Carry on discussion, this thread just proves to me that we've officially run out of bands.

Maybe I should've posted that on the "Brag About Bands No One Else Cares About" thread...

You all (except Ally) gush over Lou Reed and John Lydon but balk at Jesus Jones guy?

er...have you lost yr mind?!

''You all (except Ally) gush over Lou Reed and John Lydon but balk at Jesus Jones guy?''

Lydon made his last great record in 79/80, Lou reed in '75 (MMM). so there's a reason.

???

Is the reason that they're old?

The reason: both made great records and were good vocalists (hehe).

It's exactly as good as I remember, i.e. great intro and then it turns into the usual sub-Charlatans plod.

But they still reform regularly to play their One Actual (American) Hit at corporate functions!

wasn't a hit i see either. could have sworn it was.

rancidrancidrancid33 (1 month ago)
why is there no energy like this in todays indie scene?. Watching this makes you realise how dull its become.

"Real Real Real" and "Welcome Back Victoria" are pretty good too actually.

A contextual remembrance, courtesy of yours truly.

listening to Liquidizer for the first time in... 20 years? it's kind of scary how music from a particular time in your life can imprint on you

saw them live a few weeks back.
bloody good fun.

iTunes added Perverse not long ago.

I just listened to Carter USM's 30 Something with a huge grin on my face and even I'm not going anywhere near Perverse

i'm the other way around.

cant listen to carter these days (then again, i couldn't at their peak), whereas jj i still enjoy ..

also, it's iain that's the 'bez dancing dude' in the video.
and as ned says, he is genuinely a good'un.

Aw, I’m sorry for slagging off his dancing if he is a genuinely nice bloke!

I’m sure he’s lovely. But he is not a good dancer. Sorry

Hey, DL, have you heard the albums Drop and In Gorbachev We Trust? Because The Shamen really didn't start as 'a dance act that broke into the alternative' - they started as a really psychedelic indie band, with vague ties to the Scottish end of C86 - and slowly became more and more dance oriented.

ah, no I had no idea about this. I guess this was also true for a lot of acts who were known for dance or alt-dance in the nineties: Primal Scream, Underworld etc

Branwell, just checked out Jesus Loves Amerika and you're so right about the vocal style. Funny how both bands had a slightly metal/industrial aspect to them which might have gone on to influence bands like Senser, Apollo 440 and Pitchshifter

I just put Liquidiser on for the first time in nearly 30 years, and the first song is called "Move Mountains" and I actually yelped 'oh no you didn't' out loud?

But didn't Liquidizer come out before Pro>gen?

Ha, Liquidiser came out in Oct 1989 and the first version of Pro>Gen came out in March 1990, so... I suppose I have to allow it. ::narrows eyes::

The vocal style and delivery is really noticeable, I'm glad you agree, DL. We were talking about the Meat Beat Manifesto influence (wherein comes the Industrial edge, I think) on the Shamen thread earlier.

I went and listened to Info Freako and it's not better than I remember, it's quite horrible but also have to say for 1989 not un-prescient in its depiction of 'information' addiction.

"info freako" was always a painful tinnitus inducing 3 mins, but i took it as part of the songs individual appeal.
actually, the whole 'liquidizer' album has an insane level of top end on it.
i always suspected it was down to the bands lack of experience/knowledge/drugs, or, it was an artistic choice.
no idea if the remastered editions revises this aspect.

I remember at the time Mike Edwards was mentioning Big Black as an influence (I'm guessing the title Liquidiser was a hat-tip to Atomiser?) so maybe some of the squealing sonic assault was due to a few too many listens to Kerosene etc?

so many folks spelling the debut as 'Liquidiser'
was it different in the US, as my UK copy is definitely 'Liquidizer' ?
and yeah, good call, as Big Black were another top end heavy noise band ... never made the connection before, but makes sense actually.

This is apparently the keyboard player Iain Baker who Ned mentions above wearing a Big Black t-shirt:

https://www.picuki.com/media/771861530817785988

Spellcheck innit. Not sure my phone will even allow me to type Liquidiser - nope, it changed it for me!

haha ..fair point.