the long, subdued, nearly action-free "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford"

self xpost, nevermind, who cares

xxp: yeah, but I don't write long things for ILX for obvious reasons persons. Eat it.

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/movie_review/the-assassination-of-jesse-james-by-the-coward-robert-ford.htm

i took the bait :(

or just read Manohla Dargis, ie, let's turn another psycho killer into Jesus.

Qu’est ce que c'est?

Unpopular opinion of the year: Casey was better in Gone Baby Gone.

Movie's as pretty as its lead actors, but ultimately hollow.

I second that afflecktion.

yeah, i don't know about that. there's at least a subtheme about pop culture and mass behavior, though i too am at least skeptical about how much they intended that to get over.

pretty decent movie, though. and i was maybe more impressed by pitt than affleck - where people just surprised that the bro could act?

where

i cant believe i didnt post on this thread. i liked this movie a lot....but, and this probably sets me apart from almost every other person ever, i kinda wish there was MORE narration from the ken burns guy and less acting and talking. i like the literary conceit, the sense of someone sitting down and telling you a story.

don't need a movie for that.

this is pretty fkn boring tbh

is that james carville? wtf.

The shamelessness with which this movie rips off Malick was infuriating.

I got "interviewed" for a local publication (more of a "complete the sentence" thing) and I said I could watch this repeatedly. What won't make print is that my girlfriend likes to fall asleep with a quiet movie on, and this one has been it for a long time. Not my favorite film, but it's really tranquil, even in the violence, with the exception of the scene where Pitt is railing on that kid for information.

this film is like the cinematic equivalent of that guy phosphorescent - all earnest and croaky and 'old timey'

this is pretty fkn boring tbh

OTM.

Also, fucking impossible to work out what anyone was saying half the time.

The shamelessness with which this movie rips off Malick was infuriating.

― Matt Armstrong, Monday, June 15, 2009 5:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm not sure in what universe ripping off Terrence Malick is a bad thing.

no? how about just mangling his tropes?

his tropes? i suppose they're both about societyazzawhole, but one's just about celebrity and the other's about life, the universe and everything, no?

ya what tropes and mangled how?

i wasn't NUTS about this movie but i kinda got into its slow groove

i like the narration too.

"Trope" doesn't mean what people think it means.

it means testicles

I loved this movie on first viewing, though I think it just caught me right when I was in the perfect mood for it. I watched it again with my wife and didn't love it quite as much but would still consider it one of my faves for 2007.

is it as dull as dead man?

yeah me too--i dug it a lot. casey affleck was surprisingly great and brad was ok, too

it's not as good as dead man

doesn't really have anything to do with it tho

sort of like cricket and baseball are entirely different sports

only, with movies

the fact is i can get into any boring movie about life and shit if its shot as well as this one was

i watched like half of this on TV last weekend, no real clue what it was about but it was really pretty

That's how I feel about most Malick.

max i believe it's about the assassination of jesse james by robert ford, who some say is not the most courageous dude around

the fact is i can get into any boring movie about life and shit if its shot as well as this one was

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:43 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

me too kinda, i like long slow burn type movies. not every movie has to be as action-packed as star trek, dr morbius!

Still not sure what's up with the head-on view of the train shot, although the shot with lights coming through the woods before it is pretty great.

this is pretty fkn boring tbh

OTM.

Also, fucking impossible to work out what anyone was saying half the time.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 09:15 (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Thirded, if they were trying to explore the relationship between between James and Ford then they did a poor job, which is a shame because the story has so much potential, much scope for drama and tension but it largely failed to exploit this.

actually as long as this doesn't have a sound track by neil young i think i'll be ok w/it

you're in luck, it's by neil diamond

Nick Cave + Warren Ellis. xp oh now you've made me look boring.

not every movie has to be as action-packed as star trek, dr morbius!

hahahahaaaaa

This is one of the great american folk tales, famous in song and penny dreadfuls the films seems like such a missed opportunity.

jesus christ - why not throw in a couple of will oldham tracks while they're at it

This is one of the great american folk tales, famous in song and penny dreadfuls the films seems like such a missed opportunity.

yeah it could have been as good as

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/09/Young_guns.jpg/200px-Young_guns.jpg

xpost Especially when there is the fantastic Bruce Springsteen version of the Seegar collected ballad from a few years back.

now that's a soundtrack right there

xpost

WTF this movie wasn't even boring, there was tons of tension and intrigue.

dominik sounds cool

Anyway, Dominik took the opportunity to say, bluntly, that he is “embarrassed by the stylization in 'Killing Them Softly.'”

otm

He should be embarrassed by some of the the stylization in this one too.

“Have you seen 'Bonnie & Clyde' lately?” Dominik interrupted, scrunching his face in disapproval. “Has some good editing in the end, I suppose...“

lol f u

bonnie & clyde sucks, hes right

only if you insist on long, subdued, and nearly action-free

my friend went to this, said dominik came across as a dick.

johnny crunch and hungry4ass otm re: killing them softly. i did actually worry when 'heroin' came on the soundtrack and also i thought 'the man comes around' was a dreadful choice for pitt's intro song (i think dominik's music library must consist entirely of other movie trailer songs) but overall it was a strong movie imo.

dominik is finally getting blonde off the ground, naturally for netflix

https://thefilmstage.com/news/andrew-dominik-begins-production-on-marilyn-monroe-biopic-blonde-as-full-cast-is-announced/

Based on JCO book?

yessir

"my friend went to this, said dominik came across as a dick.

― akm"

weird, I have no recollection of writing this or who this person may have been.

The Character Assassination of Andrew Dominik by the Coward akm

Killing Them Softly seems to have been getting some defense lately from people who don't want to be on the wrong side of the film's thuddingly obvious politics, so I finally watched it. I had put it off because I didn't want it to diminish my estimation of the source material, Cogan's Trade, which I consider a masterpiece of lowlife dialogue. I'm afraid it's so bad it might have done just that. I feel bad for ever criticizing Nicolas Winding-Refn or Zack Snyder for ever having some crass and dumb ideas because Dominik belongs in movie jail. Plenty of people have mocked the ubiquitous C-SPAN footage and the moronic music cues, but ripping off the use of "Love Letters" from Blue Velvet is particularly annoying.

I will say Ben Mendelsohn is great playing an all-time disgusting loser. James Gandolfini gave his character an even more sinister dimension than I remember him having in the novel. He used to complain about what a toll playing a dark character like Tony Soprano took on him, this role might have finished him off.

https://nypost.com/2022/02/11/marilyn-monroe-biopic-director-says-movie-will-be-nc-17-rated/

“It’s a demanding movie,” Dominik said. “If the audience doesn’t like it, that’s the f–king audience’s problem. It’s not running for public office.”