Queer Eye For The Straight Guy WTF

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apparently my college friend Josh Diaz will be on tonight's episode.

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:05 (twenty years ago) link

Oh Nichole, I totally have every episode! I've been looking forward to hstencil's friend as well. Although last week with the fabio guy and his greek momma, that'll be so hard to beat. "I fell like I made five new friends today." Awwww.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:07 (twenty years ago) link

TELL me about it! I so wanted to hug him---even though he could have easily crushed me

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:09 (twenty years ago) link

the funny thing is Josh isn't nearly as much of a slob now as he was in college. If the show was on back then, they would've needed like a three-parter episode just to clean his room.

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:09 (twenty years ago) link

(did you see the QE males on the VMA's (MTV) last week? Pauvre Jimmy Fallon---though he well fit in.)

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:11 (twenty years ago) link

i hate this show and i've never even seen it! it just sounds like a bunch of "Boys in the Band" stereotypes, no?? one's a hairdresser and another one's an interior design expert, etc. gay guys as cute little pets/servants/culture know-it-alls. we've come a long way, baby!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:22 (twenty years ago) link

Tracer, to me, this show plays with the stereotypes: "Sure I know the part I'm playing, but I do it with a bit of a wink." Who better to poke fun at you, than you?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

sorry, wrong thread - racist/sexist/whatever jokes told "ironically"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:28 (twenty years ago) link

It's less about any supposed gayness than it is about fetishising consumer culture. I'm all about that. Girlfriend.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:31 (twenty years ago) link

Sure I know the part I'm playing, but I do it with a bit of a wink.

just is not good enough. Tracer is OTM - just about every gay guy i know falls into the category Tracer suggests and to add inslut to injury they talk/ dress/think the same. listen to the same Music etc. it's depressing. Maybe i just dont know the right ones but i have LOOKED HARD for a long time.

jed_e_3 (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:34 (twenty years ago) link

Tracer, what do you mean "we?"

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:34 (twenty years ago) link

yes, i know you're not gay, hstencil, i mean just look at your shoes!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:37 (twenty years ago) link

bbbut I'm wearing flip flops!

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:38 (twenty years ago) link

just about every gay guy i know falls into the category Tracer suggests and to add inslut to injury they talk/ dress/think the same. listen to the same

I respect your opinion (and your Freudian slip), but how can you assume every gay guy acts the same---unless you surveyed the entire nation?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:39 (twenty years ago) link

Tracer, you should read this article

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

btw I think the show would be better if one of the guys was a bear.

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:41 (twenty years ago) link

God, I really can't stand Carson though. I think it's my irrational hate for blondes who look like baby birds (see Kate Hudson and Carolyn Besette Kennedy).

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:42 (twenty years ago) link

i agree with tracer, down to the part about not having seen it.

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:44 (twenty years ago) link

I wonder which stereotype I am.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:49 (twenty years ago) link

Nicole - i am gay -- thats the depressing thing about it! and not EVERY gay guy - just every one i know (bar 2) i exaggerated for effect y'know. but seriously gay guys on the whole dress so badly ...and i suppose i'd rather have the guys that dress badly cos they just dont give a shit rather than the ones who pluck, shave chests, dye hair fake tan etc. and end up looking much more idiotic than the sruffy stright guys they are tring to make over.

jed_e_3 (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:55 (twenty years ago) link

Your statement presupposes there are only two options to pick from (dont give a shit/shaved plucked). But I hear your point.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:17 (twenty years ago) link

bits of this keep getting shown on english breakfast tv, namely RISE. looks horrible.

odd how nobody on english tv has picked up on the fact that we had a version of this that started a week or two before the american version started called 'Brian's Boyfriends', especially odd as one of the people who hasn't noticed is also a fellow big brither winner. english version is very cheap and goes out after in wee small hours.

andy

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

apparently my college friend Josh Diaz will be on tonight's episode.

Wait a minute...is this the same supercutie who went to the Kentucky Derby with y'all?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

nope. But he's cute too (and hung, I hear).

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:03 (twenty years ago) link

that last post is the reason the letters 't', 'm', and 'i' were invented.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:12 (twenty years ago) link

yeah right, that post went over the line of l'il ILX's innocence. Sorry.

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:14 (twenty years ago) link

you have defouled me, stencey-poo!

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:15 (twenty years ago) link

that last post is the reason the letters 't', 'm', and 'i' were invented.

Teeming Massive Inch?

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:16 (twenty years ago) link

Oh goodness gracious me, I'm ever so sorry!

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:16 (twenty years ago) link

Turgid Member Intrusion

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:17 (twenty years ago) link

Stence, you have just hijacked poor Teeny's thread;>

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:18 (twenty years ago) link

jeezus christ I'm starting to feel like Ryan Hoffmann!

It's Millar's thread, btw.

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:18 (twenty years ago) link

Thrusting Manmeat Indiscriminately

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:19 (twenty years ago) link

Blaming hstencil is, like, sooooo three months ago.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:22 (twenty years ago) link

Thrusting Manmeat Indiscriminately

"Master Perry's Guide to Female Happiness, Part Infinity."

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:23 (twenty years ago) link

All Millar threads are up for grabs! I think teeny is making a case for squatter's rights. *ahem*

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

Tickle My Iris.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:36 (twenty years ago) link

just is not good enough. Tracer is OTM - just about every gay guy i know falls into the category Tracer suggests and to add inslut to injury they talk/ dress/think the same. listen to the same Music etc. it's depressing. Maybe i just dont know the right ones but i have LOOKED HARD for a long time.

Hello.

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:41 (twenty years ago) link

This show is unbearable, I couldn't make it through the one episode I saw. Those horrible MOR queens and their predictable blab. "Don't you just love the gays? Aren't they just the cutest? Daddy, I waaaaannnt one!" Tracer's so right.

I wish they'd all go away, especially that Carson guy. I mean, they're everywhere now. No, wait, the food guy's OK.

Trish! The Bear! (Arthur), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 02:14 (twenty years ago) link

I didn't get to see the episode with my friend tonight because my cable is inexplicably out.

hstencil, Wednesday, 3 September 2003 02:24 (twenty years ago) link

i did like how they ripped on the guy & his date.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 02:29 (twenty years ago) link

The Greek guy's apartment was a disaster.

Bad Caribbean bordello chic. Bleh.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 03:07 (twenty years ago) link

so thanks to tokyo rosemary, I saw the episode. It was good. It was the first time I've ever seen this friend of mine wear anything with color. Plus, a few other friends were on the episode too.

hstencil, Thursday, 4 September 2003 23:00 (twenty years ago) link

The funny thing about Butch is they just made him look like every other style-conscious NYC guy, whereas pre-makeover he looked different and interesting.

So they're doing Oprah-style makeovers then? Do they also now look ten years older than they looked before the makeovers?

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Friday, 5 September 2003 00:40 (twenty years ago) link

hello chris - are you hear to save me? Too much hateration earlier from me - i must have been going thru one of my very frequent bouts of loathing.

jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 5 September 2003 15:13 (twenty years ago) link

I just watched the first two episodes last night, and have resigned myself to saying "Sssssuper! Thanks for asking!" all chipper like to the first person who asks how I am.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 5 September 2003 15:15 (twenty years ago) link

I watch an unseemly amount of television and have still managed to miss this entirely.

Larcole (Nicole), Friday, 5 September 2003 15:16 (twenty years ago) link

I think I've seen all the episodes, hstencil. Does your friend have curly black hair?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 5 September 2003 15:20 (twenty years ago) link

Sarah, he was the one with a fire hydrant in his apartment.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 5 September 2003 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

Awesome. THat's the one I have taped.

Sarah MCLusky (coco), Friday, 5 September 2003 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

First episode of the new season was pretty odd. It seemed to me that the person they were trying to help had some serious chemical issues going on in her head. She clearly did some cleaning up of her life in-between the visit from the fab five and the follow-up. Maybe there are medical privacy issues that prevented them from discussing some of what happened?

DJI, Sunday, 2 January 2022 17:24 (two years ago) link

they did seem to cut something during the daughter's talk w kuramo that felt important/like it would've given clearer context

I don't think I've ever seen someone who looks more like a 'Terri', like if I was asked to give an association for that name it would be p much her

I loved her collection of horse prints in the hallway, should've kept those in the redesign

Wonder where all her trinkets are now. there was a lot of stuff!

salsa shark, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 03:27 (two years ago) link

i loved that karamo seemed to have really helped start mending things btw thr daughter & terri

and that terri went w her natural hair was kind of huge <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 04:31 (two years ago) link

me too, and I liked that even though Antonio seemingly did nothing but watch ppl bake she felt so validated by that. cake looked good, would eat

salsa shark, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 08:48 (two years ago) link

Antoni! dumb autocorrect

salsa shark, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 08:52 (two years ago) link

Fair play to them, though, that they saw that the validation was more important than a cooking lesson.
I absolutely hated that horsehoe arch they put in, though. All I could see was people trying not to bang their elbows off it. What an awkward feature to put into someone's house.

trishyb, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 10:14 (two years ago) link

i thought the Ranger guy episode was just ok - seemed pretty clear she nominated him as marketing for the ranch more than anything

but i did see a comment “East Texas Nick Miller” which made me lol and is very otm


the whole shipping container over the feed storage setup was fucking crazy O_o

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 17:53 (two years ago) link

I agree that the Ranger episode seemed like a setup. Again, it seemed like there was some backstory missing. He mumbled out something about "looking at other women," but why were they together in the first place if he was such a hot mess? I don't love the idea of "let's fix this guy so he can get a girl back" for this show.

The trans powerlifter woman was a lovely person. Talk about leaning into every trans panic fear, though!

DJI, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 18:25 (two years ago) link

i loved that episode - Angel is very aptly named <3

sidebar only slightly related: my sister in law used to powerlift & loved it. after a year or two of lifting she had to go to the chiropractor for something. he asked her to push against him with her feet as hard as she could, and she was like “are u sure” & he said “i can take it” & she nearly put him through a wall lmao

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link

seemed pretty clear she nominated him as marketing for the ranch more than anything

Weirdly, I felt the same way about the animal rescue people. It seemed like they really wanted a free barn going into the process, but then she definitely seemed to get a lot more out of it than she thought she would. I felt like she had a weird energy, like she was a serotonin addict who had gotten in way over her head.

I absolutely loved Chris and his complete lack of knowledge about the show or the lads or any part of it, and his lovely song at the end.

trishyb, Thursday, 6 January 2022 18:44 (two years ago) link

the rescue lady’s vibe was intense and unsettling to me— and she has that thing where she has made her career her personality & only knows how to make other people feel good/seen and thats kind of supplanted any normal way of communicating

like gun to her head she would never tell anyone her actual opinions?

i have known ppl like this and i just find it creepy bc you never really ~know~ them

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 January 2022 19:00 (two years ago) link

chris was great, and his story about his substance abuse & his mom was so awful & sad

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 January 2022 19:02 (two years ago) link

I'm just up to the prom episode.

Greatly enjoyed the Fab Five constantly dunking on the Ranger guy, who was basically a walking stereotype of toxic gender norms. cackled when Antoni dramatically threw his head back and went "oh, masculinity!" when the dude was like "I just eat steak most days, I only eat chicken when no one's looking" lmao

was very moved by Angel and her relationship with her dad

Roz, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 03:32 (two years ago) link

oh the prom episode was so lovely, those kids & teachers were so awesome

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 January 2022 03:47 (two years ago) link


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