who in this bitch reads robert jordan? -- The Wheel of Time thread

if there is another book in the series where the main character BARELY FIGURES AT ALL then i may give up

SO TRUE.

I loyally read this series cos I started 13 years ago, but it's beginning to try my patience.

i need to muster up the energy to order the last one actually.

I caved in and started re-reading a few days ago. Already halfway through The Great Hunt. There's so much shit that I didn't even remember happening. It's better than TV at least.

(P.S. his Conan books suck in comparison to the Howard originals.)

does it bother anyone else when the characters speak without contractions? fuck, dude... his dialogue is v. unrealistic/wooden at times.

I NEVER GIVE UP ON BOOKS

Very true actually. I remember at the time this seemed really bold to me, (this was before I had read much at all admittedly), but it was also really emotionally affecting and vaguely tragic as well - kinda like a literal embodiment of post-colonial emphasis on lived experience, a "history" that is particular to the viewpoint of a certain group of people passed down through generations and cannot be translated. the slow abandonment of certain values being revealed in reverse was also super-effective, the dramatic irony of hearing Aiel say "we'll never give up the true way" (or whatever it was) when you've already read the scene where they give it up. The whole thing was immensely thoughtful.

There was lots of interesting alternate reality stuff like this in the earlier novels (like any time anyone stepped through a door/ring/touched a stone etc.) that is missing in the later stuff, and everything has increasingly been flattened out into an endless present tense that is almost suffocating.

I am almost done with book nine. :(

moral: never read a series that isn't finished!

oooh new book knife of dreams is out late 2005

...and I will wait quite a while it seems.

he's dead:

http://www.dragonmount.com/RobertJordan/?p=90

WTF

so wait, did he never outright finish the series? the first book came out in 1990 and now it's going to go unresolved? that. sucks.

I didn't dare write RIP or anything, I haven't read any of the books and people seemed to be so cheerfully talking about his death here :-/

i mean, obviously, RIP and all that. seemed like a nice guy, but WTF

rip

wtf

Indeed. :-/

A quick check at Wikipedia brings this up:

Final volume

On October 18, 2005, at a book signing in West Chester, Pennsylvania, Jordan gave the working title of the 12th book as A Memory of Light. As one of the attendees told Dragonmount.com, Jordan also warned that the final volume of the saga "could be a 1500-page monster" because he has so many dangling plot threads to wrap up in a single volume. He maintained that A Memory of Light would remain one volume "whether it is 1500 pages long, Tor has to invent a new binding system, or it comes with its own library cart". Due to his health problems, Jordan did not work at full force on the final installment, but blog entries confirmed that he continued work on it until his death, and he shared all of the significant plot details with his family not long before he died. [13]

So presumably there'll be an ending of some sort.

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wtf is up with all yo's wtf's?

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He had been ill for some time with some obscure form of cancer and received some treatment for it last year. He had been rushing through the final book as he knew his time was limited and his wife is apparently due to finish it off from his outline.

Some of us have read all 11 books and were awaiting the 12th with bated breath. Even thought others will finish off his plots for him, they won't have been written by him, hence "wtf".

oh! ok, thanks.

haha ned that's almost worse!

anyway, i'm not being very helpful here, i know. rip to the dude and sorry for his fans. but still... shit.

It's kinda interesting that when I started reading his books in my early 20s (and I'm nearly 40 now) I said to my friends "I hope he doesn't die before he finishes..."

wtf is right.

I only ever made it through the first four books, but RIP.

:-(

It really does seem like this very very sad cosmic punchline, I think as much for him as a writer as for his readers.

Wow. I was rooting for the guy to make it. I wonder how much of book 12 he did actually get written.

This is all going to be very Mystery of Edwin Drood. (More so than The Salmon of Doubt.)

It's interesting -- two hugely popular 'high church' American Anglican fantasy writers have passed within a couple of weeks of each other, L'Engle and now Jordan. This feels like a huge generational shift to me, due in part to my upbringing.

hey guys I know how it all ends

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oh man 3-img limit melted my art

this is sad, but not as tragic as it would have been if he'd wrapped it up after book six. he lost my interest (and any plot impetus) after that, basically starting a new story with different characters.

oh, and all the bits with female characters were just poor.

one could disappear up one's own ass for relevance and profit

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I've read a couple of his Conan books and they're not that bad. A bit straightforward compared to the magical atmosphere of the Howard stories, but still decent adventure fare. I sometimes wish he'd kept some of that fast pulp pacing in Wheel of Time.

I'm taking my time but just finished book 6 - lots of things happened! Probably the best book so far.

otm

we are here for support for the next five

My 12-year-old kid turns to me at this point and says, “This is a good show.”

https://defector.com/how-the-wheel-of-time-made-great-art-out-of-great-pain ($)

watching season 2 on prime now

ive been able to quite divorce it from the books now in my head, but can still lament how rushed it is to shorthand characters, intros, situations

but so it must be i guess

rewriting it with a focus on lazy kink is not something id have thought was required

but they are all very sexy so

The Wheel of Sex

watching season 2 on prime now

ive been able to quite divorce it from the books now in my head, but can still lament how rushed it is to shorthand characters, intros, situations

but so it must be i guess

― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, January 11, 2024 bookmarkflaglink

I just binged both seasons last week. I've never read any of the books but I still could sense quite clearly that all of these characters & places were likely much richer in the books. The narrowing of scale is palpable, even as I enjoyed most of the final product.

tbh ive been recommended shadow and bone and never having read that first i think i recognise that sense

From hazy memory there's a whole raft of characters in that show that aren't in the books at all, or at least have only minor roles in the books.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/1efc76d916c5e80225690a7831b0a54f/d5c35c9a38beb922-2e/s540x810/3394d29c4212f5cc2c5c93768fe5a8f2f616388f.gif

Indeed

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