Every huge artist has their "New Jersey" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline

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i guess i base it mostly off my sister and bro-in-law who have always been big fans of pop country etc....they were big garth fans but never seem to listen to him now...kenny chesney kinda captured that crowd, they just went to see him in concert a month ago w/tim mcgraw opening

Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

if Garth put out a new album today it would sell millions

Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, it's not like garth is running around trying to woo them though, unlike hammer and vanilla ice

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

ugh my sister adores Chesney.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

"it's because those songs resonate; whereas Garth's songs rarely did (the quality that pushed his sales so high, paradoxically)" what does this even mean

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

if Garth put out a new album today it would sell millions

― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, August 8, 2012 11:59 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

no way

some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

it would sell millions if garth did the media blitzkrieg he was a god at and could still swing on a rope over a stadium, but if he just plopped something out from his castle and ran away yeah it wouldn't work

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, Garth Brooks is country royalty! Pretty sure a lot of those albums have never left people's disc-changers, let alone gotten sold back to the store or forgotten about. But I haven't followed his career with any attention at all so there could be one that's thought of as more of a dud, I guess.

Spirits Having Flown is a total New Jersey.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

just saying songs like "Rodeo" or "Papa Loved Mama" don't tell great stories & so what's appealing about them is that everyone else likes the songs, not that you like the song

I dunno, maybe it's bullshit

Euler, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that's crack talk, sorry

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

Garth's crack

Euler, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

you can turn on a country radio station right now and you have a pretty good chance of hearing a Garth song within an hour

Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

xpost to da croupier

I wouldn't say 'hollow', necessarily, but I doubt that many would argue that it was a step down from Riot and a sign that the Sly magic was starting to wear off (although you could easily argue that Riot, genius as it is, was a surefire indicator of an impending slide).

Old Lunch, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

That it wasn't a step down, I mean.

Old Lunch, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

i said i got the logic! it's just harder to play this game with critical deities because people aren't as likely to concede the affair was weak

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

he dropped a double CD of hits everyone already had in 2007 and it went 5X platinum

Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

alright I'm gonna listen to K102, Minnesota's Rockin' Country right now and on I Heart Radio and see if I hear Garth Brooks song

ok first up, some toolbox named Luke Bryan who says kiss tomorrow goodbye

Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

"Drunk On You" is good!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

Everclear - Songs from an American Movie, Vol. 1

Old Lunch, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

is that the song i just heard? i have no idea.

ok they are playing independence day by martina mcbride which i guess is an "oldie" by now so maybe we'll hear garth.

Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

Elrond, just so we know the parameters of this experiment, how many country stations does your area have? I don't keep track of these things but it feels like I pass maybe four on the FM dial, and I would imagine they cater to different niches. Any ILM country heads know more about this?

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

btw i STILL have goddamn "bad medicine" stuck in my head, thanks thread

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

he dropped a double CD of hits everyone already had in 2007 and it went 5X platinum

― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:08 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

that really does not mean he could sell a million copies of an album of new songs in 2012, though

some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

Philadelphia Country station played Garth 45 minutes ago.

Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

GARTHWATCH 2012

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

not sure you guys understand what an "event" a new Garth album would be in the Country world.

Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

but, yeah, if it was all Bluegrass or if it sucked then it would sell poorly

Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

not sure you understand how few albums sell a million copies anymore. so far this year it's just that Lionel Richie album.

some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

Elrond, just so we know the parameters of this experiment, how many country stations does your area have? I don't keep track of these things but it feels like I pass maybe four on the FM dial, and I would imagine they cater to different niches. Any ILM country heads know more about this?

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, August 8, 2012 11:14 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

actually....it looks like there are 2 of decent power FM...I think there used to be a quirkier old school AM station that played older cool stuff but that's pretty low powered...

both of them have playlists so fuck this i'm not going to listen to this shit

http://www.k102.com/iplaylist/playlist.html?last10=1

K102

and 102 Buz'n (??) Country

http://buzn1029.cbslocal.com/playlist/

Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

i think if Garth put out an album of new material and did even minimal "return of Garth" hype work, it would sell over a million. i wouldn't bet on "millions" plural, though.

alpine static, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, maybe. to me that feels a little like saying Bobby Brown could return to R&B radio and outsell Usher but maybe i'm underestimating him.

some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

let's call him up and get this started

Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

Bobby Brown isn't to R&B what Brooks was to country, I don't think.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

bobby hasn't sold 128 million

Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

Garth is a deity in his genre in a way that Bobby Brown is ... not. A CD of new Garth songs would do quite well among people who still buy CDs, i.e. my aunt in Missouri.

alpine static, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

Garth vs. Bobby, how did we get here agaain?

alpine static, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

forget it alpine static, it's new jersey

Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

not sure you understand how few albums sell a million copies anymore. so far this year it's just that Lionel Richie album.

― some dude, Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:19 PM Bookmark

Yeah, but country album sales are generally stronger than other genres, right? All three of Taylor Swift's records are 5x platinum or more. Lady Antebellum went 3x with their big record, single platinum with their other two. The goddamned Band Perry went platinum... Those aren't 1990s numbers - No Fences came close to double-diamond! - but a well-marketed comeback could still clean up.

Bobby Brown comparison is baffling. Garth Brooks is the best-selling albums artist of his era, in any genre, by a long shot. If John Lennon and George Harrison came back from the dead and reunited the Beatles, and their album came out the same day as Garth's, I still wouldn't know who to put my money on to win it.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

sorry guys i thought it was clear i was being facetious/purposefully diminishing w/ my bobby brown comparison

some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

hmmmmmm, okay then

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

Garth's Vegas show is apparently just him in sweats with a guitar and atool. I'd like to see that.

Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

(stool)

Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

I'd see him with just a guitar and stool. Proper pants would be a nice touch, though.

alpine static, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

a guitar and a tool

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

Magic Garth

Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

He'd like to see that.

some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

i just want to watch garth brooks sit on a stool naked

max, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

thanks for killing the thread

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

traveled down the road and back again
your heart is true
you're a friend and a confidant

keeping things contextual (DJP), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link


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